Will there be mass cancellations for Lockdown 3?
#166
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Has anyone dealt with Border Force during Arrivals during Lockdown 2.0 (or even returning to a Tier 4 location since December 18 or whatever)? By all accounts, at least at LHR, there is no checking of passengers reason for traveling at departure (indeed, a family member left this morning and was not asked her reason for travel) and there is no checking of passengers going through the egates on arrival. BUT, what about families with kids, passports that aren't read properly, etc. where you have to speak to someone on arrival - are people being queried?
#167
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Good try but I think the wording of the lockdown guidance is quite clear with the key word being 'essential'. Unless life threatening, I'm not sure travelling to view properties is an essential reason to travel overseas right now. I think most of us want to travel overseas again but the overall airport, flight experience and associated formalities are really not attractive at the moment.
#168
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Has anyone dealt with Border Force during Arrivals during Lockdown 2.0 (or even returning to a Tier 4 location since December 18 or whatever)? By all accounts, at least at LHR, there is no checking of passengers reason for traveling at departure (indeed, a family member left this morning and was not asked her reason for travel) and there is no checking of passengers going through the egates on arrival. BUT, what about families with kids, passports that aren't read properly, etc. where you have to speak to someone on arrival - are people being queried?
#169
Join Date: Apr 2017
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With this new lockdown I'm hoping for some advice mostly from you londoners. I have no experience of lockdowns or restrictions like this from my own country so I need to find out the facts what happens on the street so to speak. If flights are not cancelled my route is ARN-LHR, then stay overnight at a hotel by Gatwick to fly to CUN the next morning. (Same way back, but without the overnight).
My plan has been to take the trains/tube straight to Gatwick (taxi will be far too expensive).
Are the trains/tubes running? (on a weekend?) Are they empty??
Will I be stopped by police several times and possibly fined?? for getting from A to B?
This vacation is very important for me for health reasons, but of course in light of this I should have flown through Germany or Paris instead.
On another note my flights are still not ticketed?! (I made a change before christmas)
If the UK introduces PCR testing requirements I'll be forced to cancel it's too expensive and too complex. I have until Monday to decide, that's my last date for cancelling the airbnb.
Of course BA might cancel my flights, who knows? If I need to cancel can I ask for a FTV even though it's not ticketed?
Sorry for the endless questions, I have read the gov site but it doesn't say much about what actually goes on in the London streets.
My plan has been to take the trains/tube straight to Gatwick (taxi will be far too expensive).
Are the trains/tubes running? (on a weekend?) Are they empty??
Will I be stopped by police several times and possibly fined?? for getting from A to B?
This vacation is very important for me for health reasons, but of course in light of this I should have flown through Germany or Paris instead.
On another note my flights are still not ticketed?! (I made a change before christmas)
If the UK introduces PCR testing requirements I'll be forced to cancel it's too expensive and too complex. I have until Monday to decide, that's my last date for cancelling the airbnb.
Of course BA might cancel my flights, who knows? If I need to cancel can I ask for a FTV even though it's not ticketed?
Sorry for the endless questions, I have read the gov site but it doesn't say much about what actually goes on in the London streets.
#170
Join Date: Feb 2009
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I own a hotel in Dominican Republic. I did call my travel insurers and asked what their definition of essential was, and they said there isn't one, and I would be the one who would decide if it was essential or not. I got the impression that if you told them that your trip was essential they wouldn't ask much more.
#172
Join Date: Dec 2020
Posts: 63
Has anyone dealt with Border Force during Arrivals during Lockdown 2.0 (or even returning to a Tier 4 location since December 18 or whatever)? By all accounts, at least at LHR, there is no checking of passengers reason for traveling at departure (indeed, a family member left this morning and was not asked her reason for travel) and there is no checking of passengers going through the egates on arrival. BUT, what about families with kids, passports that aren't read properly, etc. where you have to speak to someone on arrival - are people being queried?
#173
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Join Date: Aug 2020
Posts: 963
With this new lockdown I'm hoping for some advice mostly from you londoners. I have no experience of lockdowns or restrictions like this from my own country so I need to find out the facts what happens on the street so to speak. If flights are not cancelled my route is ARN-LHR, then stay overnight at a hotel by Gatwick to fly to CUN the next morning. (Same way back, but without the overnight).
My plan has been to take the trains/tube straight to Gatwick (taxi will be far too expensive).
Are the trains/tubes running? (on a weekend?) Are they empty??
Will I be stopped by police several times and possibly fined?? for getting from A to B?
This vacation is very important for me for health reasons, but of course in light of this I should have flown through Germany or Paris instead.
On another note my flights are still not ticketed?! (I made a change before christmas)
If the UK introduces PCR testing requirements I'll be forced to cancel it's too expensive and too complex. I have until Monday to decide, that's my last date for cancelling the airbnb.
Of course BA might cancel my flights, who knows? If I need to cancel can I ask for a FTV even though it's not ticketed?
Sorry for the endless questions, I have read the gov site but it doesn't say much about what actually goes on in the London streets.
My plan has been to take the trains/tube straight to Gatwick (taxi will be far too expensive).
Are the trains/tubes running? (on a weekend?) Are they empty??
Will I be stopped by police several times and possibly fined?? for getting from A to B?
This vacation is very important for me for health reasons, but of course in light of this I should have flown through Germany or Paris instead.
On another note my flights are still not ticketed?! (I made a change before christmas)
If the UK introduces PCR testing requirements I'll be forced to cancel it's too expensive and too complex. I have until Monday to decide, that's my last date for cancelling the airbnb.
Of course BA might cancel my flights, who knows? If I need to cancel can I ask for a FTV even though it's not ticketed?
Sorry for the endless questions, I have read the gov site but it doesn't say much about what actually goes on in the London streets.
#174
Join Date: May 2012
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Interesting to read the narrative in the media has changed from 'PCR test 72 hours for everybody' (Canadian style) to 'UK nationals and residents exempt'. Of course we do not know what will happen until it is formally announced however I do think putting restrictions on your own citizens returning is a recipe for disaster. Tests can be hard to get in some countries, and remember not every citizen abroad is on a jolly, many have essential work, health care, sick relatives to visit and care for, it is not black and white. As covid is seemingly endemic now in this country, with vast amounts of local transmission, I think this is just a restriction for the sake of having a restriction. Looks good but will make little difference just heap more misery on people trying to muddle through all of this.
Still no news regarding the LGW-CUN flights, surely these will be cancelled soon? Unless British Airways choose to operate a few to keep their 777's in the air and the wheels turning on the LGW operations.
Still no news regarding the LGW-CUN flights, surely these will be cancelled soon? Unless British Airways choose to operate a few to keep their 777's in the air and the wheels turning on the LGW operations.
I, for one, would welcome if UK citizens are not exempted from a test once the full rules are announced.
#175
Join Date: May 2012
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You have nothing to worry about transiting London. "Lockdown" here is not lockdown in the Chinese or even Italian sense of the word. It is not a police state. People are out and about. Taxis are running. Trains are running. There is traffic etc. At most you may need to explain your basis for checking in to an airport hotel (single night transit). While not specifically called out in the guidance, there is next to 0% chance an airport hotel is going to give you grief for this.
#176
Join Date: May 2012
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They’re not allowed to ask any specific questions if you have a UK passport unless you happen to be on their watch list.
#177
Join Date: Jan 2007
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I did call my travel insurers and asked what their definition of essential was, and they said there isn't one, and I would be the one who would decide if it was essential or not. I got the impression that if you told them that your trip was essential they wouldn't ask much more.
#178
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LHR, LGW
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I very much doubt you will be stopped by police, there doesn’t seem to be extra resources for patrolling peoples general whereabouts and there never has been. Extra police resources would be miracle some may say!
#179
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Has anyone dealt with Border Force during Arrivals during Lockdown 2.0 (or even returning to a Tier 4 location since December 18 or whatever)? By all accounts, at least at LHR, there is no checking of passengers reason for traveling at departure (indeed, a family member left this morning and was not asked her reason for travel) and there is no checking of passengers going through the egates on arrival. BUT, what about families with kids, passports that aren't read properly, etc. where you have to speak to someone on arrival - are people being queried?
#180
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