Your guide to spending Avios | 2021 edition
Feb 9, 21, 4:11 am
#47
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Long time lurker, first time poster. Y'all have been a wealth of knowledge for me on all things BAEC.
I am flying DCA-MIA-LHR and return in a few weeks to get Gold. I am CW on the LHR-MIA return flight. I saw on BA.com and Seat Spy that there was a F upgrade available. However, when I called the service center, they indicated that there was no availability. Any help or guidance would be helpful on this.
I am flying DCA-MIA-LHR and return in a few weeks to get Gold. I am CW on the LHR-MIA return flight. I saw on BA.com and Seat Spy that there was a F upgrade available. However, when I called the service center, they indicated that there was no availability. Any help or guidance would be helpful on this.
Thank you for your help on this; I am happy to provide more information. I tried to UuA online when I saw that there was availability. The website indicated that I could not do this online, so I called. The agent indicated that I could not upgraded at this time. I called back two other times (two different days) with the same results. Please let me know If there is any information that I can provide.
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Important:
UuAs can only be applied to tickets issued on 125 stock. In other words tickets issued by BA or BA registered travel agents with ticket numbers beginning 125. Tickets sold by Iberia and American Airlines are issued on different numbered stock and cannot be upgraded using Avios.
Finally, welcome to Flyertalk and the BA Board njoboyle.
Feb 9, 21, 7:55 am
#48
Join Date: Feb 2021
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3
I booked on the BA website: BA209 LHR-MIA
Did the agents tell you specifically why you were unable to upgrade several times? There must be a good reason why you can't upgrade and it could be one of a few things. Even more information would be helpful such as was it a BA issued ticket? (your ticket number would then start with 125-XXXXXXX) There is more info here which might explain things.
Important:
UuAs can only be applied to tickets issued on 125 stock. In other words tickets issued by BA or BA registered travel agents with ticket numbers beginning 125. Tickets sold by Iberia and American Airlines are issued on different numbered stock and cannot be upgraded using Avios.
Finally, welcome to Flyertalk and the BA Board njoboyle.
Important:
UuAs can only be applied to tickets issued on 125 stock. In other words tickets issued by BA or BA registered travel agents with ticket numbers beginning 125. Tickets sold by Iberia and American Airlines are issued on different numbered stock and cannot be upgraded using Avios.
Finally, welcome to Flyertalk and the BA Board njoboyle.
Thanks for the assistance and the warm welcome!
Feb 9, 21, 11:47 am
#49
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,186
I booked the flight for 18 Feb 21 on the 3rd of this month. The agent indicated that there was no availability that they could see in their system and offered to transfer me to see if paid upgrades were available.
I booked on the BA website: BA209 LHR-MIA
The agent didn't specifically tell me why (I probably should have asked the last time I was on the phone; I will push for an answer the next time I call). They did try and push a paid upgrade on me, which was a bit rich for my blood. The ticket was issued on BA stock (125-xxxx), and I can see that the reservations have been ticketed in my BA app.
Thanks for the assistance and the warm welcome!
I booked on the BA website: BA209 LHR-MIA
The agent didn't specifically tell me why (I probably should have asked the last time I was on the phone; I will push for an answer the next time I call). They did try and push a paid upgrade on me, which was a bit rich for my blood. The ticket was issued on BA stock (125-xxxx), and I can see that the reservations have been ticketed in my BA app.
Thanks for the assistance and the warm welcome!
rb211.
Feb 10, 21, 2:20 am
#50
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: NCL
Programs: BA Exec Club: Gold HHons:Diamond FB:Ivory Accor:Plat Hertz: PC USA:GlobalEntry
Posts: 214
I've just had to 'pay' 75,000 Avios for a one way CPT-LHR on Jan 23rd 2022.
In Jan 2021 that flight would have cost 62,500 Avios.
Is this peak creep or have off-peak dates for 2022 not yet been released?
Should I expect an automatic refund of the difference?
In Jan 2021 that flight would have cost 62,500 Avios.
Is this peak creep or have off-peak dates for 2022 not yet been released?
Should I expect an automatic refund of the difference?
Feb 10, 21, 7:49 am
#51
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That's an off peak date and there are no CPT-LHR on your dates as far as I can see, or indeed what I can see for the whole of January. There have been a few threads on this re CPT.
As your departing ex South Africa and not the UK feeder flights would not be included.
JNB-LHR on it's own and direct of course is 62,500 so the additional Avios is for that feeder flight. Hope that makes sense (and that's why your seeing 75,250?)
Pete
Feb 15, 21, 10:20 am
#52
Join Date: Sep 2010
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 253
Just to clarify something before I book a ticket, if I'm flying LHR-MIA-MCO , booked through BA on BA stock and with the LHR-MIA on BA with the MIA-MCO on the prime AA flight number, I would be able to upgrade from CW to F with avios yeah? I was a bit thrown reading the wiki about mixed flights where one section seemed to indicate I class wasn't upgradeable, unless I've misread and that was meant for AA flights rather than BA flights..?
Feb 15, 21, 2:48 pm
#53
Join Date: Jul 2019
Programs: BAEC Bronze, Mucci recipient
Posts: 1,646
Just to clarify something before I book a ticket, if I'm flying LHR-MIA-MCO , booked through BA on BA stock and with the LHR-MIA on BA with the MIA-MCO on the prime AA flight number, I would be able to upgrade from CW to F with avios yeah? I was a bit thrown reading the wiki about mixed flights where one section seemed to indicate I class wasn't upgradeable, unless I've misread and that was meant for AA flights rather than BA flights..?
Feb 22, 21, 10:28 pm
#54
Join Date: Feb 2021
Posts: 17
upgrade on codeshare flights?
"UuA can also be applied to American Airlines and Iberia flights and/or tickets combining travel on either of these airlines plus BA. The rules that apply to upgrading BA flights generally apply to AA and IB flights, albeit with a few differences."
does this mean, executive members can upgrade on codeshare flight between these three airlines?
example:
BA marketed - AA operated
BA marketed - IB operated
AA marketed - BA operated
AA marketed - IB operated
IB marketed - BA operated
IB marketed - AA operated
if upgrade on these flights is permitted, which upgrade table should the member refer to? the marketing or the operating airline?
does this mean, executive members can upgrade on codeshare flight between these three airlines?
example:
BA marketed - AA operated
BA marketed - IB operated
AA marketed - BA operated
AA marketed - IB operated
IB marketed - BA operated
IB marketed - AA operated
if upgrade on these flights is permitted, which upgrade table should the member refer to? the marketing or the operating airline?
Feb 23, 21, 2:32 am
#55
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"UuA can also be applied to American Airlines and Iberia flights and/or tickets combining travel on either of these airlines plus BA. The rules that apply to upgrading BA flights generally apply to AA and IB flights, albeit with a few differences."
does this mean, executive members can upgrade on codeshare flight between these three airlines?
example:
BA marketed - AA operated
BA marketed - IB operated
AA marketed - BA operated
AA marketed - IB operated
IB marketed - BA operated
IB marketed - AA operated
if upgrade on these flights is permitted, which upgrade table should the member refer to? the marketing or the operating airline?
does this mean, executive members can upgrade on codeshare flight between these three airlines?
example:
BA marketed - AA operated
BA marketed - IB operated
AA marketed - BA operated
AA marketed - IB operated
IB marketed - BA operated
IB marketed - AA operated
if upgrade on these flights is permitted, which upgrade table should the member refer to? the marketing or the operating airline?
I understand in order to be able to upgrade with avios a BA flight it needs to be BA marketed and operated.
For AA and IB flights this may be the same, although you can only upgrade on those from the very restricted list of expensive selling classes so J, C, D and Y on AA, and W, E, T, Y, B, and H on IB.
Have you got a booking or are you looking to make a booking you want to upgrade with avios?
Feb 23, 21, 7:53 pm
#56
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 1,615
I have a question about a hotel booking with Avios. The stay is for this Friday and was about 180,000 avios. I just tried to cancel it online and its trying to charge me $1,400 to cancel it. The cancelation on the booking says the folowing:
"Cancellations made up to 3 days before travel : Cancellations made on or after 25/02/21 will be subject to a fee of 130.42 or equivalent cost in Avios + £35 administration fee."
Am I missing something? Did we miss the cancelation window? Thanks,
"Cancellations made up to 3 days before travel : Cancellations made on or after 25/02/21 will be subject to a fee of 130.42 or equivalent cost in Avios + £35 administration fee."
Am I missing something? Did we miss the cancelation window? Thanks,
Mar 14, 21, 1:13 pm
#58
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ETA: sorry I forgot to say, you'll have to call BA to do it. It won't work online.
Mar 14, 21, 1:21 pm
#59
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32910040-post7.html
Mar 14, 21, 1:40 pm
#60
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,282
Sometimes you can, I suspect it depends what your booking class is, some TAs have very restricted or corporate tickets. I've certainly done it before. Note that it does complicate things in case of IRROPs, because the TA will lose some control over the ticket, but BA will see it as a TA ticket and send you their way.
ETA: sorry I forgot to say, you'll have to call BA to do it. It won't work online.
ETA: sorry I forgot to say, you'll have to call BA to do it. It won't work online.
Itll be a package booking DUB-LHR-MEX. The price Trailfinders is quoting in business is about €1850pp whereas BA / BA hols is +€3000
