Denied boarding, tricky one
Nov 30, 2020, 9:52 am
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Sorry for the confusion; what I meant was;
If you are flying:
LHR-DOH with BA followed by a separate ticket with Ethiopian to Tanzania, BA would allow you to board the LHR-DOH flight if you show your onward DOH-ADD-DAR ticket with ET as UK citizens are allowed to enter Tanzania at the moment.
If you're flying IST-DOH with TK followed by a separate ticket with ET to Tanzania, TK would not allow you to board the IST-DOH flight stating that the passenger is not eligible to enter Qatar which is his final destination on his ticket with TK.
Similar situation for Russia;
Pre-COVID, on BA services to DME, people were able to fly LHR-DME without a Russian visa by showing an onward separate S7 ticket to the check-in and gate agent whereas some airlines like TK would not allow a UK citizen to board a flight to Russia without a visa unless the passenger has a connection to a third country on the same ticket.
If you are flying:
LHR-DOH with BA followed by a separate ticket with Ethiopian to Tanzania, BA would allow you to board the LHR-DOH flight if you show your onward DOH-ADD-DAR ticket with ET as UK citizens are allowed to enter Tanzania at the moment.
If you're flying IST-DOH with TK followed by a separate ticket with ET to Tanzania, TK would not allow you to board the IST-DOH flight stating that the passenger is not eligible to enter Qatar which is his final destination on his ticket with TK.
Similar situation for Russia;
Pre-COVID, on BA services to DME, people were able to fly LHR-DME without a Russian visa by showing an onward separate S7 ticket to the check-in and gate agent whereas some airlines like TK would not allow a UK citizen to board a flight to Russia without a visa unless the passenger has a connection to a third country on the same ticket.
Nov 30, 2020, 10:22 am
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However this ends up for me (and my expectations have been re-managed due to this forum), there have been a number of interesting tales, which demonstrate the complexities and downfalls of some arrangements.
When I booked the flights on Thursday, and then on Sunday morning at the airport, I didn't consider there was anything particularly to think about, I'd already looked through what appeared to me to be reasonable due diligence.
The take away from all this is down to this one technicality: doing a back-to-back isn't treated the same as being a transit passenger.
Interestingly I haven't yet heard anything from my supplier, I texted and emailed her to explain the situation before she checked in to her flight to DOH, but have yet to receive a response.
My lesson of the past 48 hours is that hindsight is a truly wonderful thing!
When I booked the flights on Thursday, and then on Sunday morning at the airport, I didn't consider there was anything particularly to think about, I'd already looked through what appeared to me to be reasonable due diligence.
The take away from all this is down to this one technicality: doing a back-to-back isn't treated the same as being a transit passenger.
Interestingly I haven't yet heard anything from my supplier, I texted and emailed her to explain the situation before she checked in to her flight to DOH, but have yet to receive a response.
My lesson of the past 48 hours is that hindsight is a truly wonderful thing!
Nov 30, 2020, 10:27 am
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XXX-DOH-XXX with a same-day turnaround.
Nov 30, 2020, 10:33 am
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Hmm, not sure about a "caper", that strongly suggests bad faith, but I wouldn't be surprised if she found herself in the same boat: however I thought I'd have reached her well before her airport arrival time, let alone her departure time.
Nov 30, 2020, 11:32 am
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Nov 30, 2020, 11:46 am
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Interesting read and discovery that back-to-back isn't treated as in transit. Hopefully, we won't ever have to put that knowledge to use in any future pandemic; but if we do, I guess you just add an extra destination in there with a big gap at the desired location so it does indeed qualify..!
Nov 30, 2020, 11:53 am
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Interesting read and discovery that back-to-back isn't treated as in transit. Hopefully, we won't ever have to put that knowledge to use in any future pandemic; but if we do, I guess you just add an extra destination in there with a big gap at the desired location so it does indeed qualify..!
Nov 30, 2020, 11:57 am
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Also I can never not think about your story as to why you named yourself LondonElite whenever I see you. Hope the yacht clubs are still in action
Nov 30, 2020, 12:00 pm
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I lived in London when I joined FT and was an Elite level member in Air Canada's programme. Yacht clubs are doing fine, but without much custom from me these days!
Nov 30, 2020, 12:06 pm
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Nov 30, 2020, 3:35 pm
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Nov 30, 2020, 4:46 pm
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Because Qatar allows visa-free/visa on arrival (not sure about the exact arrangement) for UK Passport holders. That's why you have no problem at all.
I simply can't see what your complaint can accomplish. Qatari official information has been very clear on this - citizens and residents only for now. And you are neither.
If I was on the other side of the complaint, I would make sure you be banned for life.
I simply can't see what your complaint can accomplish. Qatari official information has been very clear on this - citizens and residents only for now. And you are neither.
If I was on the other side of the complaint, I would make sure you be banned for life.
Nov 30, 2020, 4:54 pm
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Also, I think it's worth pointing out that the immigration authorities in the GCC can be more accommodating and flexible, and so travellers might let their guard down and get caught out by things like this.
For example, you can re-start a 30 day UAE tourist visa by travelling to Oman in an afternoon, and you can do this as often as you like. I imagine you can reset a Qatari tourist visa in the same way. This is completely unlike the situation in the UK or in Schengen, where I imagine you'd be refused entry.
For example, you can re-start a 30 day UAE tourist visa by travelling to Oman in an afternoon, and you can do this as often as you like. I imagine you can reset a Qatari tourist visa in the same way. This is completely unlike the situation in the UK or in Schengen, where I imagine you'd be refused entry.
Nov 30, 2020, 5:44 pm
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Some years back, checking in at Singapore with Air Asia for Saigon, they were busy at the next desk spoiling the life of a girl travelling on the same flight but connecting within a couple of hours of arrival at SGN to somewhere else. She needed a visa to enter Vietnam, and as far as the airline was concerned she was on a one-way ticket to Vietnam. I learned then to be much less cavalier about entry requirements.
There's probably a long German word for learning lessons from the unhappiness of others.