FNC [today’s flight returned to LHR]
Hello,
So half way there today flight came back to Heathrow due to strong winds and airport closed. Our little boys were super sad to land at Heathrow but that's life and not the point. According to FNC website many flights landed in the afternoon and according to our local friends other diverted flights when to Porto Santo. So why is BA fight the only one going back to origin (and us stuck in an hotel at Heathrow hoping we can fly again tomorrow)? Thanks! |
Originally Posted by Sophoclefr
(Post 32756357)
Hello,
So half way there today flight came back to Heathrow due to strong winds and airport closed. Our little boys were super sad to land at Heathrow but that's life and not the point. According to FNC website many flights landed in the afternoon and according to our local friends other diverted flights when to Porto Santo. So why is BA fight the only one going back to origin (and us stuck in an hotel at Heathrow hoping we can fly again tomorrow)? Thanks! Fingers crossed for tomorrow! |
Indeed the Jet2 flight from Leeds to FNC diverted to Faro which means all on board will need to self isolate for 2 weeks from today, upon return to the UK. A Transavia flight from OPO to FNC returned to OPO.
That said, I suspect BA would rather not have crew nightstopping in unexpected locations at the moment, it's just easier for all concerned to come back to London, even if you did get to the other side of OPO before returning to the UK. There weren't many flights affected, the only other service due to arrive between midday and 4pm was a SAS service, which was cancelled for other reasons. |
Unless the jet2 continued to FNC later without taking any more people on board at Faro.
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77
(Post 32756577)
Unless the jet2 continued to FNC later without taking any more people on board at Faro.
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Conditions at Funchal turn in flash. We've twice been diverted to Porto Santo after rocky attempts at landing, waited things out for an hour and then successfully re-tried FNC.
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 32756411)
Indeed the Jet2 flight from Leeds to FNC diverted to Faro which means all on board will need to self isolate for 2 weeks from today, upon return to the UK. A Transavia flight from OPO to FNC returned to OPO.
That said, I suspect BA would rather not have crew nightstopping in unexpected locations at the moment, it's just easier for all concerned to come back to London, even if you did get to the other side of OPO before returning to the UK. There weren't many flights affected, the only other service due to arrive between midday and 4pm was a SAS service, which was cancelled for other reasons. https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co....-madeira-faro/ |
Porto Santo can only take so many aircraft (and then potentially handle the offload and accommodation of multiple passengers for the night).
Once the decision is made to go to Porto Santo, I’d imagine that the aircraft can then only carry enough fuel that puts it below Max landing weight for FNC. ie, it cannot carry enough fuel to depart Porto Santo, hold and have a go at FNC then fly back to London. If the aircraft departs Porto Santo with a genuine attempt for FNC then it can only have limited fuel on board, meaning, if it still cannot land in FNC then it’ll end up diverting to FAO, maybe TFS, LIS, OPO for more fuel to get back to London, and then probably the crew will run out of hours. At a very rough guess, to go FNC-LHR, let’s say you’d need 15T. To go PXO-FNC (carrying diversion fuel for FAO/LIS/TFS) - LHR you’d probably need 18T. Therefore leaving PXO and attempting FNC with c18T of fuel on board will have the aircraft way over maximum landing weight. |
Originally Posted by bfc2dabone
(Post 32756669)
returned to Leeds Bradford and trying again tomorrow
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co....-madeira-faro/ |
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 32756680)
Given the route and the airline, I'd imagine the passengers would be fairly elderly,...
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 32756680)
Given the route and the airline, I'd imagine the passengers would be fairly elderly, so I'm wondering how they all did their unexpected Passenger Locator Forms on arrival in Leeds. I guess the Border Force let them off that requirement. Still, the fairly robust comments section in that article shows what Flyertalk could look like if run by Yorkshire folk!
Doubt it'd be a very nice atmosphere after that 'ordeal' though, considering it takes the best part of 15 minutes to fill out in the first place. Still, we choose to travel through these times, it is what it is. I would always have expected any airline to go wherever is operationally more convenient, rather than what saves passengers having to quarantine, so I suppose people should be thankful for small mercies. |
Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 32756712)
Regardless of airline it is a route which attracts the elderly. I was on a BA flight there once where I was the youngest in club and a lady in 1A was doing crochet! I was told after that it’s know as a route for newly weds and nearly deads.
We've been looking at potential destinations for an early holiday next year (we ordinarily go to the Canaries). There's a RIU Palace in Madeira (the high end of the RIU chain), The main bar looks like a visitors room in an old folks home, it's well reviewed too. I'll say no more. |
Originally Posted by Sophoclefr
(Post 32756357)
Hello,
So half way there today flight came back to Heathrow due to strong winds and airport closed. Our little boys were super sad to land at Heathrow but that's life and not the point. According to FNC website many flights landed in the afternoon and according to our local friends other diverted flights when to Porto Santo. So why is BA fight the only one going back to origin (and us stuck in an hotel at Heathrow hoping we can fly again tomorrow)? Thanks! |
Originally Posted by KARFA
(Post 32756712)
Regardless of airline it is a route which attracts the elderly. I was on a BA flight there once where I was the youngest in club and a lady in 1A was doing crochet! I was told after that it’s known as a route for newly weds and nearly deads.
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I took 3 days to get to FNC once. We were only allowed to land in a 100 series B727, by day, on a dry runway, when the wind was within the limits on the wind chart. Just as we began our approach it started raining, causing a diversion to Porto Santo.
After sitting around for the rest of the day we diverted back to FAO for the night. Next day just as we arrived the wind went out of limits,so off we went to Porto Santo, then LIS for the night. There was a little grumbling from the passengers, but we did flight deck tours and cheered them up as best as possible. Fortunately we got in on day 3, as the Captain was moving house the next day, and I was on my 7th day of duty. CAA regulation no flying on day 8. The returning passengers were rather glad to get home as well. |
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