No more criticising BA if you are an Executive Club member [amendment to BAEC T&Cs]
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or have better uses for your time. No, nor have I read the agreements that Microsoft or Apple insist that I tick either. I’ve probably agreed to being chosen to become a concubine of the incumbent President if the USA, or personal maid to his daughter.
NWI Flyer is right unfortunately. I would pay money to start a thread saying « I was rude about Seńor Cruz and now I’ve been drummed out of the Brownies ». NWI Flyer can plead my defence as he’s very Perry Mason like. Probably diminished responsibility would work well. 😉
NWI Flyer is right unfortunately. I would pay money to start a thread saying « I was rude about Seńor Cruz and now I’ve been drummed out of the Brownies ». NWI Flyer can plead my defence as he’s very Perry Mason like. Probably diminished responsibility would work well. 😉
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I think you put it very well into perspective - while they reserve the right to do something, it does not mean they will act upon it.
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No, it won't because virtually no-one reads the TandCs until something happens that forces them to read them. Second, as to those who do routinely read them, many will know that vague clauses in consumer contracts are likely to be regarded as "unfair" and, as such, unenforceable. Moreoever, this particular clause is so extraordinary in a consumer contract that it really stands out as a prime candidate for being held "unfair".
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So I presume brown trousers are ok then. Looking forward to winter weather
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I am no legal expert and I rely on NWIFlyer expertise that I would win the case if I went through the hassle of taking BA to a British court.
Nevertheless, the plain English meaning of the text is surprising. Any post on FT that "reflects unfavourably on the reputation of British Airways or any aspect of its business, brands, products or services" is a Misconduct.
Nevertheless, the plain English meaning of the text is surprising. Any post on FT that "reflects unfavourably on the reputation of British Airways or any aspect of its business, brands, products or services" is a Misconduct.
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If you want a legal opinion, still not a guarantee, there are far more knowledgable people than me. The fact they seem to align with my opinion by liking it may or may not be an indication of their view ... but ultimately the only person who can decide is a judge.
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For the record, here is the previous and current definition of Misconduct from the Terms and Conditions
Prior to 25 September
After 25 September
Prior to 25 September
"Misconduct" includes:
- failure to comply with these Terms and Conditions or the terms and conditions of a Service or Airline Partner; or
- attempting to obtain Tier Points or Avios points by Fraud; or
- misusing the Services; or
- misconduct on board a British Airways or Airline Partner's flight or in a Lounge or while checking-in; or
- misconduct in dealing with British Airways' staff or the staff of any Service Partner; or
- failure to comply with the applicable conditions of carriage and any other applicable rules and regulations.
After 25 September
"Misconduct" includes:
- failure to comply with these Terms and Conditions or the terms and conditions of a Service or Airline Partner; or
- attempting to obtain Tier Points or Avios points by Fraud; or
- misusing the Services; or
- misconduct on board a British Airways or Airline Partner's flight or in a Lounge or while checking-in; or
- any misconduct including but not limited to the use of false, threatening, abusive or derogatory language or behaving in a threatening, abusive or derogatory manner in dealing with or directed at British Airways' staff or the staff of any Service Partner; or
- any conduct, including but not limited to making misleading statements, which causes, is intended to cause or is likely to cause a detrimental effect or reflects unfavourably on the reputation of British Airways or any aspect of its business, brands, products or services; or
- failure to comply with the applicable conditions of carriage and any other applicable rules and regulations.
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It strikes me this is aimed at the bloggers and vloggers rather than ‘ordinary’ individual passengers. If so I’d have thought there were far more effective ways of managing the situation, such as starving them of information or interview opportunities. The very worst thing BA could do, in fact, is terminate the membership of a high profile blogger because that would create far more negative publicity for them than whatever the original article was about. BA has come through a slamming on here on BoB, on Business Class seating, on seat reservation costs, on lounge champagne, and innumerable other things. If it had wanted to stop anyone commenting negatively on this forum it would have brought this clause in and activated it years ago.
There’s next to no chance of it being used for the purpose apparently feared.
Certainly not, that’s a crime against humanity
There’s next to no chance of it being used for the purpose apparently feared.
Certainly not, that’s a crime against humanity
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