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Old Sep 10, 2020, 4:22 pm
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List of active A380s:
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Code:
 Aircraft   Delivery     Hours
 G-XLEA     04.07.2013   29,259 at 06.04.2022
 G-XLEB     20.09.2013   28,913 at 29.07.2022
 G-XLEC     18.10.2013   29,592 at 20.09.2022
 G-XLED     17.01.2014   27,628 at 06.01.2022
 G-XLEE     06.03.2014   27,385 at 03.02.2021
 G-XLEF     15.05.2014   27,572 at 30.03.2022
 G-XLEG     11.09.2014   27,033 at 01.08.2022
 G-XLEH     16.10.2014   25,613 at 01.08.2022
 G-XLEI     13.02.2015   24,390 at 21.01.2022
 G-XLEJ     10.11.2015   21,521 at 31.10.2022
 G-XLEK     03.02.2016   19,363 at 20.03.2022
 G-XLEL     22.06.2016   19,284 at 17.06.2022
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Major maintenance:
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Code:
 Aircraft   Maint 1      Maint 2      Maint 3      Maint 4
 G-XLEA     21.06.2015   12.04.2017   17.12.2018   26.10.2021
 G-XLEB     24.09.2015   20.05.2017   04.03.2019   07.02.2022
 G-XLEC     17.10.2015   09.09.2017   06.05.2019   08.03.2022
 G-XLED     24.01.2016   08.11.2017   06.08.2019   23.12.2021
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Code:
 G-XLEE     15.02.2016   16.12.2017   19.10.2019   14.04.2022
 G-XLEF     16.04.2016   25.02.2018   19.01.2020   04.02.2022
 G-XLEG     25.09.2016   09.04.2018   25.05.2020   13.05.2022
 G-XLEH     15.10.2016   16.09.2018   21.08.2020   11.09.2022
 G-XLEI     21.01.2017   21.10.2018   15.10.2020   28.10.2022
 G-XLEJ     28.09.2017   11.06.2019   16.07.2022
 G-XLEK     21.01.2018   22.11.2019   04.01.2022
 G-XLEL     28.04.2018   23.02.2020   31.03.2022
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Notes:
  1. Maintenance dates are for the completion of each period of major maintenance work, lasting about 3, 5, 8 and 4 weeks respectively.
  2. As of 28 October 2022: -
    • G-XLEA is in service
    • G-XLEB is in service
    • G-XLEC is in service
    • G-XLED is in service
    • G-XLEE is in service
    • G-XLEF is in service
    • G-XLEG is in service
    • G-XLEH is in service
    • G-XLEI is in service
    • G-XLEJ is in service
    • G-XLEK is in service
    • G-XLEL is in service
  3. Airport codes:-
    • LHR = London Heathrow
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Old Apr 12, 2022, 5:54 am
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G-XLEH on her way back to LHR at the moment. Wikipost updated, and formatting fixed.
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Old Apr 12, 2022, 6:09 am
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
G-XLEH on her way back to LHR at the moment. Wikipost updated, and formatting fixed.

Is this one re-entering service too?
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Old Apr 12, 2022, 6:23 am
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Is this one re-entering service too?
Apparently yes it is.

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Old Apr 12, 2022, 9:47 pm
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Originally Posted by sammyg901
Actually seems like London-Sydney loads are pretty high (some April dates at least) which is indeed causing a capacity crunch in J at least , a friend wanted to do US with a London stop but is having to do SQ via Manchester instead to get a decent fare

no way a A380 would be required just for Singapore at the moment- business demand is still very low and they used to struggle to fill over the summer pre-COVID at times, often some rotations would be dropped around May time before the local school holidays in June
Indeed, looks like from 30 October, BA11 to SIN will be 777.

Shame SQ can run three flights a day from LHR and one from MAN, with one LHR being an A380.
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Old Apr 13, 2022, 1:51 am
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Originally Posted by Midships
Indeed, looks like from 30 October, BA11 to SIN will be 777.

Shame SQ can run three flights a day from LHR and one from MAN, with one LHR being an A380.
Singapore is SQs hub, so there is plenty of connecting traffic. The same reason why Emirates can fly multiple daily flights from across the U.K. to Dubai.

Personally apart from flights to India and other core Asian routes to Singapore and Hong Kong plus maybe the return of Japan I believe BA Needs to concentrate on other parts of the world. Possibly look at leisure routes to Bangkok and Phuket from Gatwick.BA needs to continue to develop its routes to both the Americas, Central America, the Caribbean Area and parts of Africa. The European network can also be further developed.
In my view the ME and Asian airlines have the routes to the East pretty sown up.
Australia perplexes me. You would think that with the close ties between the two countries they could attract more VFR traffic.
I must stress my non expert personal view.
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Originally Posted by vectismanpaul
Singapore is SQs hub, so there is plenty of connecting traffic. The same reason why Emirates can fly multiple daily flights from across the U.K. to Dubai.

Personally apart from flights to India and other core Asian routes to Singapore and Hong Kong plus maybe the return of Japan I believe BA Needs to concentrate on other parts of the world. Possibly look at leisure routes to Bangkok and Phuket from Gatwick.BA needs to continue to develop its routes to both the Americas, Central America, the Caribbean Area and parts of Africa. The European network can also be further developed.
In my view the ME and Asian airlines have the routes to the East pretty sown up.
Australia perplexes me. You would think that with the close ties between the two countries they could attract more VFR traffic.
I must stress my non expert personal view.
The problem with Australia is BA has to stop, which basically means BA is no more convenient than any one of 15 other one-stop options from LHR. From most places outside of London they are actually at a disadvantage vs. many other carriers as it is two stop on BA whilst many competitors can offer one stop from MAN, CDG, AMS, etc. The BA route to SYD seems to be for hardcore loyalists only and those using 2-4-1 etc. If Qantas ever get Project Sunrise off the ground I fear it could kill BA’s SYD flight.
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Old Apr 13, 2022, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by vectismanpaul
Singapore is SQs hub, so there is plenty of connecting traffic. The same reason why Emirates can fly multiple daily flights from across the U.K. to Dubai.

Personally apart from flights to India and other core Asian routes to Singapore and Hong Kong plus maybe the return of Japan I believe BA Needs to concentrate on other parts of the world. Possibly look at leisure routes to Bangkok and Phuket from Gatwick.BA needs to continue to develop its routes to both the Americas, Central America, the Caribbean Area and parts of Africa. The European network can also be further developed.
In my view the ME and Asian airlines have the routes to the East pretty sown up.
Australia perplexes me. You would think that with the close ties between the two countries they could attract more VFR traffic.
I must stress my non expert personal view.
Agreed that its SQ's hub, but the crowds around the SQ baggage reclaim belt in SIN suggests that for many, SIN is the final destinations. But the same argument would apply to BA with LHR being their hub. My guess is that Singaporeans prefer their own flag carrier, or heaven forbid, it is perceived as a better product that BA.
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Old Apr 13, 2022, 7:10 am
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Not always the final destination as quite a number of people stop for a couple of days in Singapore on route to Australia etc…
However your point is noted.
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Old Apr 13, 2022, 7:14 am
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LEE leaving MNL tonight, back into storage at MAD.
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Old Apr 14, 2022, 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by vectismanpaul
Not always the final destination as quite a number of people stop for a couple of days in Singapore on route to Australia etc…
However your point is noted.
Agreed. I did read somewhere although can't find the reference, the government in Singapore provides as flight subsidiary to itineraries with a 20 hour + layover in Singapore. While I can't confirm if it is true my last flight with them was £££ cheaper with a 24 hour stop.

But certainly one way of generating tourism.
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Old Apr 14, 2022, 1:12 pm
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LEE leaving MNL tonight, back into storage at MAD.
Indeed, and one of the pilots on Twitter reporting a total flight time of 15:43 due to the southerly routing.
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Originally Posted by lost_in_translation
If Qantas ever get Project Sunrise off the ground I fear it could kill BA’s SYD flight.
I would imagine BA would copy it as quickly as they could and it would actually benefit Qantas and BA as they would have direct flights to compete with the one stops.
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Old Apr 14, 2022, 6:07 pm
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I would imagine BA would copy it as quickly as they could and it would actually benefit Qantas and BA as they would have direct flights to compete with the one stops.
It's an interesting point - I haven't heard any noises from BA about initiating ultra long haul flights to Australia, or anywhere else

Maybe the extremely high fuel burn from ultra long haul flights is unacceptable to the British public
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Old Apr 15, 2022, 1:45 am
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I would imagine BA would copy it as quickly as they could and it would actually benefit Qantas and BA as they would have direct flights to compete with the one stops.
Geographically, Australia is remote from most of the world’s major economies, not to mention their cultural roots. So, travelling long distances is in their DNA. For Qantas, serving long and relative thin routes, makes up quite a proportion of their network, so it’s not surprising that Project Sunrise exists. For BA, it would be a totally different business decision, and one with ‘high risk’ (think fuel prices) written all over it. Also, the disproportionate cost of running a small subfleet, but including back-ups means, IMO, BA will never enter the ULH market.

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Originally Posted by TedToToe
Geographically, Australia is remote from most of the world’s major economies, not to mention their cultural roots. So, travelling long distances is in their DNA. For Qantas, serving long and relative thin routes, makes up quite a proportion of their network, so it’s not surprising that Project Sunrise exists. For BA, it would be a totally different business decision, and one with ‘high risk’ (think fuel prices) written all over it. Also, the disproportionate cost of running a small subfleet, but including back-ups means, IMO, BA will never enter the ULH market.
This was my thought too - BA developing an ULH aircraft would allow them to do, what? SYD direct, maybe add MEL and PER. That’s probably it. QF developing an ULH aircraft opens up all of the major global centers in Europe and the East Coast US, each with catchment areas not far off the size of the whole of Australia - LHR, NYC, CDG, FRA, ORD, etc. There is no comparison.
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