Sep 10, 2020, 4:22 pm
Last edit by: Globaliser
List of active A380s:
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Major maintenance:
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Notes:
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Code:
Aircraft Delivery Hours
G-XLEA 04.07.2013 29,259 at 06.04.2022
G-XLEB 20.09.2013 28,913 at 29.07.2022
G-XLEC 18.10.2013 29,592 at 20.09.2022
G-XLED 17.01.2014 27,628 at 06.01.2022
G-XLEE 06.03.2014 27,385 at 03.02.2021
G-XLEF 15.05.2014 27,572 at 30.03.2022
G-XLEG 11.09.2014 27,033 at 01.08.2022
G-XLEH 16.10.2014 25,613 at 01.08.2022
G-XLEI 13.02.2015 24,390 at 21.01.2022
G-XLEJ 10.11.2015 21,521 at 31.10.2022
G-XLEK 03.02.2016 19,363 at 20.03.2022
G-XLEL 22.06.2016 19,284 at 17.06.2022
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Major maintenance:
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Aircraft Maint 1 Maint 2 Maint 3 Maint 4
G-XLEA 21.06.2015 12.04.2017 17.12.2018 26.10.2021
G-XLEB 24.09.2015 20.05.2017 04.03.2019 07.02.2022
G-XLEC 17.10.2015 09.09.2017 06.05.2019 08.03.2022
G-XLED 24.01.2016 08.11.2017 06.08.2019 23.12.2021
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G-XLEE 15.02.2016 16.12.2017 19.10.2019 14.04.2022
G-XLEF 16.04.2016 25.02.2018 19.01.2020 04.02.2022
G-XLEG 25.09.2016 09.04.2018 25.05.2020 13.05.2022
G-XLEH 15.10.2016 16.09.2018 21.08.2020 11.09.2022
G-XLEI 21.01.2017 21.10.2018 15.10.2020 28.10.2022
G-XLEJ 28.09.2017 11.06.2019 16.07.2022
G-XLEK 21.01.2018 22.11.2019 04.01.2022
G-XLEL 28.04.2018 23.02.2020 31.03.2022
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Notes:
- Maintenance dates are for the completion of each period of major maintenance work, lasting about 3, 5, 8 and 4 weeks respectively.
- As of 28 October 2022: -
- G-XLEA is in service
- G-XLEB is in service
- G-XLEC is in service
- G-XLED is in service
- G-XLEE is in service
- G-XLEF is in service
- G-XLEG is in service
- G-XLEH is in service
- G-XLEI is in service
- G-XLEJ is in service
- G-XLEK is in service
- G-XLEL is in service
- Airport codes:-
- LHR = London Heathrow
Stored A380s | maintenance movements
Sep 9, 2020, 9:22 am
#3
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Sep 9, 2020, 9:53 am
#5
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Sep 9, 2020, 9:58 am
#6
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Fairly standard the most comfortable aircraft in Economy are also the ones the airlines are desperate to get rid of.
What is better for the consumer is clearly worse for business given the higher operating costs in many instances.
It is a particular shame for the A380 - an aircraft loved by passengers, but which isn't valued so highly be carriers. I often thought it was an aircraft that arrived 10-15 years too soon. Pre-covid, it was perfect for airports suffering slot constraints like LHR and also brought with it the potential to help reduce the number of flights given the focus on the environment, should governments introduce such measures. I know this was unfavourable for airlines, but you could've got to the position where measures meant you ditched two 787s and just flew one A380 instead.
But then, when is anyone going to need an aircraft of this size again? The Boeing 77X also looks like its market has vanished before it enters service.
It's my favourite aircraft to fly on so hopefully it can survive.
What is better for the consumer is clearly worse for business given the higher operating costs in many instances.
It is a particular shame for the A380 - an aircraft loved by passengers, but which isn't valued so highly be carriers. I often thought it was an aircraft that arrived 10-15 years too soon. Pre-covid, it was perfect for airports suffering slot constraints like LHR and also brought with it the potential to help reduce the number of flights given the focus on the environment, should governments introduce such measures. I know this was unfavourable for airlines, but you could've got to the position where measures meant you ditched two 787s and just flew one A380 instead.
But then, when is anyone going to need an aircraft of this size again? The Boeing 77X also looks like its market has vanished before it enters service.
It's my favourite aircraft to fly on so hopefully it can survive.
Last edited by Bohinjska Bistrica; Sep 9, 2020 at 10:06 am
Sep 9, 2020, 10:01 am
#8
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An unfortunate co-incidence, let’s be honest. The A380 and B747 have been sidelined because they carry too many pax and their fuel burn isn’t comparable with A350/B787 etc.
Sep 9, 2020, 10:31 am
#11
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Fairly standard the most comfortable aircraft in Economy are also the ones the airlines are desperate to get rid of.
What is better for the consumer is clearly worse for business given the higher operating costs in many instances.
It is a particular shame for the A380 - an aircraft loved by passengers, but which isn't valued so highly be carriers. I often thought it was an aircraft that arrived 10-15 years too soon. Pre-covid, it was perfect for airports suffering slot constraints like LHR and also brought with it the potential to help reduce the number of flights given the focus on the environment, should governments introduce such measures. I know this was unfavourable for airlines, but you could've got to the position where measures meant you ditched two 787s and just flew one A380 instead.
But then, when is anyone going to need an aircraft of this size again? The Boeing 77X also looks like its market has vanished before it enters service.
It's my favourite aircraft to fly on so hopefully it can survive.
What is better for the consumer is clearly worse for business given the higher operating costs in many instances.
It is a particular shame for the A380 - an aircraft loved by passengers, but which isn't valued so highly be carriers. I often thought it was an aircraft that arrived 10-15 years too soon. Pre-covid, it was perfect for airports suffering slot constraints like LHR and also brought with it the potential to help reduce the number of flights given the focus on the environment, should governments introduce such measures. I know this was unfavourable for airlines, but you could've got to the position where measures meant you ditched two 787s and just flew one A380 instead.
But then, when is anyone going to need an aircraft of this size again? The Boeing 77X also looks like its market has vanished before it enters service.
It's my favourite aircraft to fly on so hopefully it can survive.
Sep 9, 2020, 10:33 am
#12
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but the question now becomes. What’s the point of operating 8 isn’t it too expensive? I think those 8 coming back had to with warming up slots than demand due to the waiver coming to an end. But a framework has been agreed by the airlines and airports. It is now waiting EU approval (which they’ll probably get) if and when they get that waiver. You can be rest assured these birds are done out
Sep 9, 2020, 10:36 am
#13
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This is a real shame and it’s scary how times are changing so quickly. I hope BA do keep the other 8 for a good few years though. The market isn’t recovering as expected and things are actually much worse than expected.
I honestly thought with 30 747s gone, the A380s would have stayed. They aren’t even 10 years old!
I honestly thought with 30 747s gone, the A380s would have stayed. They aren’t even 10 years old!
Sep 9, 2020, 11:04 am
#15
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Posts: 7,237
4 out of 12 = 30% of the fleet. If it's true, then it's in line with the general trend we've seen in the industry in terms of cuts, both of fleets and - sadly - of people.
This is quite significant, however. Unlike the 744s and 346, which BA and IB had almost completely paid for (but still yielded a euro 750m write off in the last Quarter financials) the 380s are far from being depreciated. I think the accounting value of one of those birds is in the region of a 100/150m, so we're looking at quite a significant write-off.
Also, it's worth remembering that this time last year BA/IAG were working on approving the refurbishment of all 380s with the new Club Suite, an investment of billions. If this is true and 30% of the fleet are to be scrapped, then it's again proof of how big this crisis is for the industry. BA was one of the few, if not the only, airline in Europe capable of making the 380s make money.
This is quite significant, however. Unlike the 744s and 346, which BA and IB had almost completely paid for (but still yielded a euro 750m write off in the last Quarter financials) the 380s are far from being depreciated. I think the accounting value of one of those birds is in the region of a 100/150m, so we're looking at quite a significant write-off.
Also, it's worth remembering that this time last year BA/IAG were working on approving the refurbishment of all 380s with the new Club Suite, an investment of billions. If this is true and 30% of the fleet are to be scrapped, then it's again proof of how big this crisis is for the industry. BA was one of the few, if not the only, airline in Europe capable of making the 380s make money.