BA & Dubai
#751
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for all the talk of influencers who i agree are below contempt decisions like these have real world impact not just interms of disruption to the traveller, I was due to fly on Sunday to hold in person negotiations to establish a new joint venture which would of created 150+ high paying tech jobs as well as additional support staff. this will now be deferred and the project delayed
#752
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Picking back up on the earlier conversation regarding police checks at the terminal and being "directed" back home, Sky reporting that NPCC has said police will not stop holidaymakers from leaving. They will fine those in the airport who don't have a reasonable excuse to be there but otherwise, leaving the country or not is a Border Force issue. Will be interesting how that plays out.
#753
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Unfortunately that NPCC spokesperson does not understand the law and powers they have.
It is clear police have powers to direct you to return home, and as mentioned in this thread and elsewhere that has been happening.
It is clear police have powers to direct you to return home, and as mentioned in this thread and elsewhere that has been happening.
Last edited by KARFA; Jan 29, 2021 at 4:29 am
#754
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 209
for all the talk of influencers who i agree are below contempt decisions like these have real world impact not just interms of disruption to the traveller, I was due to fly on Sunday to hold in person negotiations to establish a new joint venture which would of created 150+ high paying tech jobs as well as additional support staff. this will now be deferred and the project delayed
I have no interest in social media influencers, but you only have to see how many followers some of these people have to realise that for some brands, it is important marketing. One of the biggest sponsors of social media influencing, Boohoo, has annual revenue around Ł1 billion and has increased its customer base by almost 500% since 2013 largely due to its social media presence. It’s no different to companies recording adverts during the pandemic.
The real reason there is so much contempt for social media influencers is, of course, jealousy. People making a career without very little “traditional” talent, or the hard years of university/career building behind them, the fact they’re in the sun and warmth of Dubai whilst the majority of us are stuck in the depths of Winter in the U.K., and of course jealousy over people making a success from good looks that the majority of people don’t have, or the physique that the majority of people can’t be bothered to achieve.
As a scratch golfer, I’m watching the European Tour golf in Dubai from my sofa, completely jealous that I’m not even able to hack around my local mud bath course, let alone get paid a large sum of money to play there. However, they’re providing me with 4 mornings of entertainment on an otherwise mundane January lockdown weekend, much like social media influencers provide entertainment to a large number of, mainly, young girls all over the world, whether you agree with it or not. Do social media influencers think a golf tournament is an essential reason to be in Dubai? Probably not.
Not expecting to win a popularity contest here, but I think balance and fairness is important. Just because you don’t agree with it, doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
#755
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21
Received the cancellation email from BA for DXB -> LHR, to depart next Sunday, just after 11am. No alternatives given in the email and ba.com only showing a credit option, however when calling to request a cash refund the agent mentioned they are rebooking customers onto LH via Frankfurt. 10 hour layover though - cash refund taken.
#756
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Received the cancellation email from BA for DXB -> LHR, to depart next Sunday, just after 11am. No alternatives given in the email and ba.com only showing a credit option, however when calling to request a cash refund the agent mentioned they are rebooking customers onto LH via Frankfurt. 10 hour layover though - cash refund taken.
#757
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Received the cancellation email from BA for DXB -> LHR, to depart next Sunday, just after 11am. No alternatives given in the email and ba.com only showing a credit option, however when calling to request a cash refund the agent mentioned they are rebooking customers onto LH via Frankfurt. 10 hour layover though - cash refund taken.
He had a cash fare, premium economy and will be asking to be rebooked on QR.
Would there be any refund due as QR does not offer PE? Seems like an involuntary downgrade in this case?
#758
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
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#760
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#761
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We all know that a few minutes wouldn't have made the difference, but what technically could have happened to those on board?
Spoke to a Tour Op friend who had 100 clients (legitimately) in Dubai or due to transit there that they need to sort out. In between the tears he's furious about the lack of notice on the worlds busiest air route.. All to seemingly punish a few Instagram influencers. 48 hours notice would have made a huge difference to people's lives.
Spoke to a Tour Op friend who had 100 clients (legitimately) in Dubai or due to transit there that they need to sort out. In between the tears he's furious about the lack of notice on the worlds busiest air route.. All to seemingly punish a few Instagram influencers. 48 hours notice would have made a huge difference to people's lives.
#762
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Nothing really to those onboard, they would be processed at the border as normal.
At the end of the day the prohibition is against the operator from operating passenger flights, rather than a prohibition on passengers themselves. It would be BA who would be in trouble.
At the end of the day the prohibition is against the operator from operating passenger flights, rather than a prohibition on passengers themselves. It would be BA who would be in trouble.
#763
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: London Stratford, E7
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We all know that a few minutes wouldn't have made the difference, but what technically could have happened to those on board?
Spoke to a Tour Op friend who had 100 clients (legitimately) in Dubai or due to transit there that they need to sort out. In between the tears he's furious about the lack of notice on the worlds busiest air route.. All to seemingly punish a few Instagram influencers. 48 hours notice would have made a huge difference to people's lives.
Spoke to a Tour Op friend who had 100 clients (legitimately) in Dubai or due to transit there that they need to sort out. In between the tears he's furious about the lack of notice on the worlds busiest air route.. All to seemingly punish a few Instagram influencers. 48 hours notice would have made a huge difference to people's lives.
Now is going to be no different apart from instead of home self isolation it will be managed hotel quarantine that people will be trying to avoid.
#764
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 21
That's good to know. My colleague's flight on BA DXB-LHR early February was cancelled now too.
He had a cash fare, premium economy and will be asking to be rebooked on QR.
Would there be any refund due as QR does not offer PE? Seems like an involuntary downgrade in this case?
He had a cash fare, premium economy and will be asking to be rebooked on QR.
Would there be any refund due as QR does not offer PE? Seems like an involuntary downgrade in this case?
#765
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 91
EY17 is due to land at Heathrow at 5:25pm so we might find out if that was allowed as a one off or if they'll turn a blind eye today! If they let it land then they'll be procesed as normal but be interesting to see if they make it divert.