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Old Jan 5, 2021, 2:27 pm
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Anyone know why the UK Border Force is not stopping passengers on the outbound DXB’s and enquiring into there ‘essential’ travel then off loading people who are flouting the travel bans ?
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 2:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Speedbirdjclass
Anyone know why the UK Border Force is not stopping passengers on the outbound DXBs and enquiring into there essential travel then off loading people who are flouting the travel bans ?
Nothing to do with them. That would be a police matter. Why are the police not doing that? Not a priority, presumably, until theyre told to make it one but that seems unlikely.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 2:43 pm
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Anyone know why the UK Border Force is not stopping passengers on the outbound DXBs and enquiring into there essential travel then off loading people who are flouting the travel bans ?
because its non of their business
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Speedbirdjclass
Anyone know why the UK Border Force is not stopping passengers on the outbound DXBs and enquiring into there essential travel then off loading people who are flouting the travel bans ?
Do you really think people leaving the country causes a problem?
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:17 pm
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Do you really think people leaving the country causes a problem?
Simply put, we have a restriction in place, which should be respected by all and everyone should be treated equally under the law.

You have people unable to see their parents and then you have basic "influencers" jetting off to Dubai. Traditionally we English would say thats not cricket - sadly this country has turned into a self centred egotistical nightmare and everyone believes they are above the law (especially when they have more than 10,000 insta followers and most like an Only Fans account)
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by PGberkshire
Simply put, we have a restriction in place, which should be respected by all and everyone should be treated equally under the law.

You have people unable to see their parents and then you have basic "influencers" jetting off to Dubai. Traditionally we English would say thats not cricket - sadly this country has turned into a self centred egotistical nightmare and everyone believes they are above the law (especially when they have more than 10,000 insta followers and most like an Only Fans account)
No. Just no.

Mind your own business and quit focusing on other people. You will be much happier.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by SingaporeDubai
No. Just no.

Mind your own business and quit focusing on other people. You will be much happier.
Im very happy thank you. But appreciate you speculating as to my mental state.

Clearly social responsibility, rule of law and common community spirit is something you don't value.

Not only the fact that by the fact they are travelling, they are increasing their chance of infection, and ultimately the import of additional covid back to the UK.

And before you say, wait Dubai has less cases than the UK. The fact they are travelling, rather than staying at Home means it's a higher risk profile.

As a UK taxpayer, I don't want my social services & NHS resources overwhelmed by irresponsible idiots.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by SingaporeDubai
No. Just no.

Mind your own business and quit focusing on other people. You will be much happier.
The problem is that other people’s problem IS our problem, whether they (or you) like it or not. By them ignoring (and blatantly flouting) the rules, and spreading the virus around, it prolongs the agony for everyone. We are in such a mess now precisely because so many people have done what you are suggesting, and it’s about time they stopped, for the good of everyone. PG is entirely correct in saying it’s just not cricket. What’s saddest of all is that so few seem to care that he’s right.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by PGberkshire
Im very happy thank you. But appreciate you speculating as to my mental state.

Clearly social responsibility, rule of law and common community spirit is something you don't value.

Not only the fact that by the fact they are travelling, they are increasing their chance of infection, and ultimately the import of additional covid back to the UK.

And before you say, wait Dubai has less cases than the UK. The fact they are travelling, rather than staying at Home means it's a higher risk profile.

As a UK taxpayer, I don't want my social services & NHS resources overwhelmed by irresponsible idiots.
The point is, and was initially, that leaving the country is not causing anyone any problems and commenting on it screams not being at peace with ones self.

We are not talking about how people re enter the country. That was not the topic.

You commented on not being able to see ones parents being comparable. This shows a huge lack of understanding. Visiting someone (even your parents) socially, is prolonged contact and exposure to each other. Sitting in a business class seat on a plane is not. Parents are likely to be old, this is a risk. Young able bodied people amongst each other on flights, much less so.

By all means restrict people entering a country, but stopping people leaving is a ridiculous notion and is simply not going to happen.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Confus
The problem is that other peoples problem IS our problem, whether they (or you) like it or not. By them ignoring (and blatantly flouting) the rules, and spreading the virus around, it prolongs the agony for everyone. We are in such a mess now precisely because so many people have done what you are suggesting, and its about time they stopped, for the good of everyone. PG is entirely correct in saying its just not cricket. Whats saddest of all is that so few seem to care that hes right.
We are in a mess for many reasons, people leaving countries is certainly not one of them.

Inbound passengers may be an issue, outbound, sorry no that is just illogical.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:53 pm
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Good grief. Ridiculous SingaporeDubai those holidaymakers are having to return here...

Couldn’t agree more PGberkshire
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 3:57 pm
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Good grief. Ridiculous SingaporeDubai those holidaymakers are having to return here...

Couldnt agree more PGberkshire
It seems to be missed that my comment relates to outbound passengers.

By all means restrict entry, but restricting people from leaving is just absurd.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 4:16 pm
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Originally Posted by SingaporeDubai
It seems to be missed that my comment relates to outbound passengers.

By all means restrict entry, but restricting people from leaving is just absurd.
The fact of the matter is outbound passengers ARE an issue - they are breaking UK law - a journey to and through an airport increases transmission, a flight potentially too (think about crew - they dont need to isolate but could pick something up).

On return its unlikely everyone will follow quarantine measures adding a greater risk to the UK population; regardless its an additional burden on the authorities to have to try to enforce (realise this is poor to begin with, but in principle).

Am stunned at the selfishness by some on here - totally with PG on this - am sure Ill be jumped on/this post will be taken down in a bit whilst those encouraging departures will remain..

All of us want to get back into the air ASAP; but the more people who choose to break the law, the greater the risk of the virus spreading and the longer well all be stuck on the ground - with the dreaded paper bags being served up once we get back into the air.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by londonba2014
The fact of the matter is outbound passengers ARE an issue - they are breaking UK law - a journey to and through an airport increases transmission, a flight potentially too (think about crew - they dont need to isolate but could pick something up).

On return its unlikely everyone will follow quarantine measures adding a greater risk to the UK population; regardless its an additional burden on the authorities to have to try to enforce (realise this is poor to begin with, but in principle).

Am stunned at the selfishness by some on here - totally with PG on this - am sure Ill be jumped on/this post will be taken down in a bit whilst those encouraging departures will remain..

All of us want to get back into the air ASAP; but the more people who choose to break the law, the greater the risk of the virus spreading and the longer well all be stuck on the ground - with the dreaded paper bags being served up once we get back into the air.
If youre travelling for work youre not breaking the law.

Believe it or not, walking past people in an airport is not a good way of passing on the virus.

If you want to pass the virus quickly and efficiently, stand face to face with people on a construction site all day long, take people to view houses and converse with them face to face, or better yet have people from anywhere any everywhere going into an environment which is colder than most places due to the fridges, and touching various surfaces oh and dont forget all the droplets being exchanged when you say thank you to the cashier - guess where? The supermarket. Or the best one yet, a place where the ill go to collect their medication, the pharmacy. All of which are also legally open...

But wait, sitting in your own seat on a plane must be so bad...

If you honestly still believe the above situations are safer than travelling then I guess I cant change your mind.

If you do indeed realise that sitting on your own seat in the plane, not unnecessarily conversing with strangers and spreading droplets, and not unnecessarily touching surfaces is much safer than visiting a pharmacy where 1000s of infected people must have come to pick up medication, but still want to criticise travel, well I do have to say it again, clearly its more of a problem that is within.
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Old Jan 5, 2021, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by SingaporeDubai
If youre travelling for work youre not breaking the law.

Believe it or not, walking past people in an airport is not a good way of passing on the virus.

If you want to pass the virus quickly and efficiently, stand face to face with people on a construction site all day long, take people to view houses and converse with them face to face, or better yet have people from anywhere any everywhere going into an environment which is colder than most places due to the fridges, and touching various surfaces oh and dont forget all the droplets being exchanged when you say thank you to the cashier - guess where? The supermarket. Or the best one yet, a place where the ill go to collect their medication, the pharmacy. All of which are also legally open...

But wait, sitting in your own seat on a plane must be so bad...

If you honestly still believe the above situations are safer than travelling then I guess I cant change your mind.

If you do indeed realise that sitting on your own seat in the plane, not unnecessarily conversing with strangers and spreading droplets, and not unnecessarily touching surfaces is much safer than visiting a pharmacy where 1000s of infected people must have come to pick up medication, but still want to criticise travel, well I do have to say it again, clearly its more of a problem that is within.
Im not getting into an argument on this - supermarkets and pharmacies are open for obvious reasons and afaik folk dont spend 8 hours at a time in them - appreciate a VERY SMALL number of folk need to travel for business at the mo; but in most cases Zoom will do the trick..
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