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October 2020 flight cancellations and operational changes

October 2020 flight cancellations and operational changes

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This information is correct as of 15:00 on 25th September. Further changes are highly likely

Until the end of S20 Schedule (24th October)

Abuja - Daily 3-Class (with Club Suite) 777-200ER
Accra - Daily 3-Class 777-200ER
Atlanta - Daily 787-9
Bahrain - 3 x Weekly 4-Class 777-200ER
Bangalore - 4 x Weekly A350-1000XWB
Barbados - NEW Daily service begin 17th October. 4-Class 777-200ER
Boston - Daily A350-1000XWB
Buenos Aires - 4 x Weekly 787-8
Cairo - Daily 787-8
Cape Town - Daily 4 Class 777-200ER
Chennai - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Chicago - 12 x Weekly
BA295/BA294 - 5 x Weekly 787-9
BA297/BA296 - Daily A350-1000XWB

Dallas - Daily 787-10
Delhi - Daily 787-9
Dubai - Daily A350-1000XWB
Grand Cayman - 1 x Fortnightly 3-Class 777-200ER
Hong Kong - Daily 777-300ER
Houston - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Hyderabad - 4 x Weekly 787-9
Islamabad - Daily 787-8
Johannesburg - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Kuala Lumpur - 4 x Weekly 787-9
Kuwait - 3 x Weekly 4-Class 777-200ER
Lagos - Daily 777-300ER
Lahore - NEW 4 x Weekly service begin 12th October. 787-8
Los Angeles - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Male - NEW 3 x Weekly service begins 16th October. 777-300ER
Mexico City - 4 x Weekly 787-9
Miami - Daily 787-9
Montreal - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Moscow - Daily 787-8
Mumbai - Daily
BA139/BA138 - Until 04OCT: 777-300ER
BA199/BA198 - From 05OCT: 787-8

Nairobi - 5 x Weekly 777-300ER
New York (JFK) - 2 x Daily
BA113/BA114- Daily 777-300ER (with Club Suite)
BA175/BA112- Daily 4-Class 777-200ER

Philadelphia - 2 x Weekly 787-9
Riyadh - 3 x Weekly 4-Class 777-200ER
San Francisco - Daily 787-9
São Paulo - Daily 787-9
Seattle - 3 x Weekly 787-10
Seychelles - 2 x Weekly 787-9 resumes 10th October
Shanghai - 2 x Weekly 777-300ER
Singapore - 4 x Weekly 777-300ER
Tel Aviv - Daily A350-1000XWB
Tokyo (Haneda) - 3 x Weekly 787-9
Toronto - Daily 787-8
Washington - Daily A350-1000XWB


From 25th October

Abuja - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Accra - Daily A350-1000XWB
Amman - 6 x Weekly A321Neo
Atlanta- 4 x Weekly 787-8
Bahrain - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Bangalore - 4 x Weekly A350-1000XWB
Barbados - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Beijing (Daxing) - Daily 777-300ER
Boston - 2 x Daily.
BA213/BA212 - Daily 787-9
BA215/BA214 - Daily A350-1000XWB

Buenos Aires - 5 x Weekly 787-8
Cairo - Daily A321Neo
Cape Town - Daily 777-300ER
Chennai - 6 x Weekly 787-8
Chicago - 2 x Daily 787-9
Dallas - Daily 787-9
Delhi - 2 x Daily
BA143/BA142 - Daily 787-8
BA257/BA256 - Daily 3-Class 777-200ER

Dubai - 2 x Daily
BA105/BA104 - Daily 787-9
BA107/BA106 - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER

Grand Cayman via Nassau - 4 x Weekly 3-Class 777-200ER
Hong Kong - Daily 777-300ER (4 x Weekly with Club Suites)
Houston - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Hyderabad - 4 x Weekly 787-8/9
Islamabad - Daily 787-8
Johannesburg - Daily A380
Kuala Lumpur - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Kuwait - 3 x Weekly 4-Class 777-200ER
Lagos - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Lahore - 4 x Weekly 787-8
Los Angeles - 11 x Weekly
BA269/BA268 - Daily A380
BA281/BA280 - 4 x Weekly 777-300ER

Male - 3 x Weekly 777-300ER (with Club Suites)
Mexico City - 5 x Weekly 787-9
Miami - 2 x Daily
BA207/BA206 - Daily A380
BA209/BA208 - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER

Montreal - 4 x Weekly 787-8
Moscow - 13 x Weekly A320/A320Neo
Mumbai - 2 x Daily
BA139/BA138 - Daily 787-8
BA199/BA198 - Daily 787-9

Muscat - 3 x Weekly. 2 x 787-8 and 1 x 787-9
Nairobi - 5 x Weekly 777-300ER
Newark - Daily 787-9
New York (JFK) - 6 3 x Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Philadelphia - Daily A350-1000XWB
Phoenix - 5 x Weekly 787-9 Cancelled
Riyadh - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
San Diego - 5 x Weekly 787-9 Cancelled
San Francisco - Daily 777-300ER
San Jose (CA) - 4 x Weekly 787-9 Cancelled
Santiago de Chile - 4 x Weekly 787-9
São Paulo - Daily 777-300ER
Seattle - Daily 787-10
Seychelles - 2 x Weekly 787-9
Shanghai - 2 x Weekly 777-300ER
Singapore - Daily 777-300ER
Tel Aviv - 2 x Daily
BA163/BA163 - Daily 787-9
BA165/BA164 - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER

Tokyo (Haneda) - 3 x Weekly 787-9
Toronto - 2 x Daily
BA093/BA092 - 5 x 787-10 & 2 x 789 Weekly
BA099/BA098 - Daily 787-9

Vancouver- Daily 4-Class 777-200ER Cancelled
Washington - Daily A350-1000XWB
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Old Sep 10, 20, 2:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Locky84 View Post
My BLL flights for early October have just been cancelled. Had been fully expecting that to happen, looks like the SH schedule pruning has now started. One more refund to claim.
has anyone had october cancellations for Gran Canaria or Cyprus?
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Old Sep 10, 20, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by sammyg901 View Post
Potentially optimising the schedule to connect transatlantic? Turkey is one of the few places Americans can travel right now - restoring the night stop offers connection into various AA and BA flights. IIRC there is plenty of PPE cargo on this route though an A320 can't haul much
The second daily flight that was restored could be used to optimise the schedule for transatlantic; however, the third daily service ( IST departure 20:30 ) is definitely for UK based passengers.

Originally Posted by BAeuro View Post
But to increase it to a higher frequency than it was at before COVID? And then it once again falls to a daily in November/December.
That's interesting actually. I hope they restore at least the second daily in the winter season ( the night stopper BA680/675 service ) as that flight is the most convenient for Turkish travelers.

Originally Posted by Bohinjska Bistrica View Post
Turkey is one of an ever-decreasing number of short-haul destinations BA flies to that has no requirement to quarantine upon return.

BA may as well chuck planes at it and see if people go for it.
Originally Posted by GumshoeW12 View Post
Makes sense to me. Turkey’s one of the few remaining countries popular with British tourists that doesn’t (currently) require a test or quarantine on arrival or self-isolation on return.

With France, Spain, Greece and now Portugal all effectively off-limits to most, it seems logical for BA to increase capacity to a country that isn’t while it still can.
This might be the reason. I simply wish that the x3 daily flights are not temporary.
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Old Sep 10, 20, 3:34 pm
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So it seems a fair few destinations are seeing frequency increases in October (Istanbul/Warsaw/Hannover).

On the flip side, it seems the time changes and aircraft changes are only up to 8th October atm. So the first week of October.
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Old Sep 10, 20, 3:38 pm
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I don't know it's reported before but the x1 weekly Bodrum service is back on Saturdays and Dalaman is going up to x10 weekly.
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Old Sep 10, 20, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by BAeuro View Post
So it seems a fair few destinations are seeing frequency increases in October (Istanbul/Warsaw/Hannover).

On the flip side, it seems the time changes and aircraft changes are only up to 8th October atm. So the first week of October.
Also no quarantine on return from the latter two.

Simple choice, really - try and get people to go these places or have more aircraft grounded and end up laying off more staff.
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Old Sep 10, 20, 4:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Brighterside View Post
Could this post from the CDC indicate that restrictions being lifted for US travel could be coming (eventually)?

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...assengers.html

Full article link above but this is the interesting paragraph:

Beginning September 14, 2020, the USG will remove requirements for directing all flights carrying airline passengers arriving from, or recently had a presence in, certain countries to land at one of 15 designated airports and halt enhanced entry health screening for these passengers. Currently, enhanced entry health screening is conducted for those arriving from, or with recent presence in, China (excluding the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau), Iran, the Schengen region of Europe, the United Kingdom (excluding overseas territories outside of Europe), Ireland, and Brazil.
... beat me to it, although WoPo notes "The new policy does not change travel bans on non-U.S. residents that apply to the foreign countries.", so it only affects those who can fly to/from the US at the moment, and I don't foresee a sudden resurgence of flights from the regional (international) airports, e.g. LHR-BWI-LHR (unfortunately!).
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Old Sep 10, 20, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by CKBA View Post
... beat me to it, although WoPo notes "The new policy does not change travel bans on non-U.S. residents that apply to the foreign countries.", so it only affects those who can fly to/from the US at the moment, and I don't foresee a sudden resurgence of flights from the regional (international) airports, e.g. LHR-BWI-LHR (unfortunately!).
Hopefully some airports like PHL will see a resumption of service. The last couple of weeks, I have seen a few BA 787’s at PHL - cargo obvs, so if there is cargo demand, maybe some of the airports that have missed service will see a passenger service resume if demand is there. I am hopeful - have a BA 66 the first week of Oct which I hope will now stick.
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Old Sep 10, 20, 10:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Bohinjska Bistrica View Post
Also no quarantine on return from the latter two.

Simple choice, really - try and get people to go these places or have more aircraft grounded and end up laying off more staff.
I think BA are definitely trying to be more agile in responding to where demand is - they were very quick to add extra flights to Greece earlier this week and the same from Croatia a few weeks ago and at a quick glance I think there are five extra Faro / Lisbon / Porto services running today to get people back before the quarantine requirement kicks in. They also added an extra weekly flight to Male over the winter. I would expect to see more of this over winter especially if for example the Canary Islands become available again.

We're seeing the same in the US - hub carriers are suddenly becoming more like the lo-cos with P2P flying to Florida and Mexico, anything to put planes into service on cash generating routes
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Old Sep 11, 20, 2:04 am
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Originally Posted by ISTFlyer View Post
The second daily flight that was restored could be used to optimise the schedule for transatlantic; however, the third daily service ( IST departure 20:30 ) is definitely for UK based passengers.



That's interesting actually. I hope they restore at least the second daily in the winter season ( the night stopper BA680/675 service ) as that flight is the most convenient for Turkish travelers.





This might be the reason. I simply wish that the x3 daily flights are not temporary.
Maybe they’re reacting to demand - but it seems odd that for 3.5 weeks they increase it To pre-pandemic levels, then drop it back to 1 a day.

With very little lead time to sell these seats ie 3-6 weeks notice (not much in ‘normal’ times) I’m not sure whether this will be profitable . We’ll have to see how it all works out - looks like there are still many changes to come for October
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Old Sep 11, 20, 2:16 am
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Originally Posted by BA_MAN1 View Post
Maybe they’re reacting to demand - but it seems odd that for 3.5 weeks they increase it To pre-pandemic levels, then drop it back to 1 a day.
Once we’re into November it’s very much out of season and I doubt there’d be the demand.

Never say never though - I’m sure BA will be closely monitoring demand in October and may decide to boost the winter timetable if it’s warranted.
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Old Sep 11, 20, 4:21 am
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Originally Posted by BAeuro View Post
it seems the time changes and aircraft changes are only up to 8th October atm. So the first week of October.
No, I’ve just a time change for the BA1465 LHR-EDI on the 15th.
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Old Sep 11, 20, 4:28 am
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frustratingly my corfu flight was cancelled and put on the crack of dawn flight. alas, at least its still running!
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Old Sep 11, 20, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by sammyg901 View Post
I think BA are definitely trying to be more agile in responding to where demand is - they were very quick to add extra flights to Greece earlier this week and the same from Croatia a few weeks ago and at a quick glance I think there are five extra Faro / Lisbon / Porto services running today to get people back before the quarantine requirement kicks in. They also added an extra weekly flight to Male over the winter. I would expect to see more of this over winter especially if for example the Canary Islands become available again.

We're seeing the same in the US - hub carriers are suddenly becoming more like the lo-cos with P2P flying to Florida and Mexico, anything to put planes into service on cash generating routes
The interesting thing is BA moan about Heathrow but it’s actually what are as of right Gatwick shorthaul destinations with Gatwick flight numbers (euro leisure) that seems to be keeping them going - ie Heathrow has 5 or so Faro flights on Sat many on 321neo - they’d have sent a 767 in the old days I’m sure.

There have been redundancies at LGW and yet to be fair the crews there have been single fleet then mixed fleet for years and already gone through the mill. Yet they never got the neos or product investments. Would have been easy surely to send the 321neos to gatwick over the summer / school hols and swap for 319s to slot sit at Heathrow in years gone by.
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Old Sep 11, 20, 5:24 am
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A friend has just had ARN-LHR cancelled on 4 October. Down to two flights but interestingly the two remaining are early morning and lunchtime. The 1800, which ran through September, is not currently there.
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Old Sep 11, 20, 6:42 am
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Cancellations starting to flow through. My flight on Oct 8th from LHR-BHD has been cancelled. BA1426 but moved to one just an hour before so not terrible.
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