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With the sad news from Waterside marking an immediate end of life for the venerable Boeing 747-400, our eyes will be on our bookings as we await news of exactly which replacement aircraft type will take us to our destinations.

Listed below are the routes the 744 served in pre COVID times. Please add notes of replacement aircraft as and when the updates trickle through.

Accra
Sep: 1x daily 777-200ER

Austin
Sep: no service

Bahrain
Sep: 3x weekly 777-200ER

Boston
Sep: 2x daily 777-200ER/A350-1000

Cape Town
Sep: 3x weekly 777-300ER

Chicago
Sep: 2x daily 787-9/A350-1000

Dallas Fort Worth
Sep: 1x daily 787-10

Denver
Sep: 1x daily 777-200ER
Feb 21: 1 x daily 787-9

Dubai
Sep: 1x daily A350-1000

Houston
Sep: 5x weekly 777-200ER

Johannesburg
Sep: 1x daily 777-300ER

Kuwait City
Sep: 3x weekly 777-200ER

Lagos
Sep: 1x daily 777-200ER

Las Vegas
Sep: 1x daily 777-200ER (3 class)

Los Angeles
Sep: 2x daily 787-9

Miami
Sep: 1x daily 787-9

Nairobi
Sep: 4x weekly 777-200ER

New York JFK
Sep: 4x daily 777-200ER

Philadelphia
Sep: 1x daily 787-9
Oct onwards: 1x daily A350-1000

Riyadh
Sep: 4x weekly 777-200ER

San Diego
Sep: no service

San Jose, Ca
Sep: no service
October 24th onwards 1x daily 787-9

San Francisco
Sep: 1x daily 777-300ER

Seattle
Sep: 1x daily 787-10

Vancouver
Sep: 1x daily 777-200ER

Washington Dulles
Sep: 1x daily A350-1000
Jun 21: BA217/6 787-9

Replacement aircraft on BA 747 routes

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Aug 5, 2020, 9:40 am

#211

Nephoi

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Originally Posted by richardwft

Are they expecting some LH aircraft delivered in early October?

When do the A380s finish their french adventure?

why should they scrap their own 747s and use Lufthansas old planes? that doesnt make sense to me.

Aug 5, 2020, 9:45 am

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Originally Posted by Nephoi

why should they scrap their own 747s and use Lufthansas old planes? that doesnt make sense to me.

Long Haul....

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Aug 5, 2020, 9:47 am

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Originally Posted by CT-UK

Long Haul....

of course. sorry...

Aug 5, 2020, 9:49 am

#214

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Quote:

Originally Posted by richardwft

Are they expecting some LH aircraft delivered in early October?

When do the A380s finish their french adventure?

H1 results said 4-6 380s on storage until EOY but it could be for longer. The way things look right now, they don’t need them on routes to anywhere really.

Aug 5, 2020, 9:57 am

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Originally Posted by Inselhuepfer

I'm still in 64k on both outbound and inbound flights on BA211/210 in December/January - this is the late MIA departure. As someone mentioned upthread for LAX, I wouldn't be surprised if this flight gets cancelled as I can't see BA running 3 flights a day to MIA by then. Oh well, it's a waiting game!

Cancellation just received - that was quick!

A side question, and apologies if this is not relevant to this thread, but maybe someone here can confirm: If I rebook myself onto an earlier flight on the day, I assume I can still take a voucher at a later stage if I decide not to travel (I booked under the Book with Confidence rules)?

Thanks very much.

Aug 5, 2020, 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by Inselhuepfer

A side question, and apologies if this is not relevant to this thread, but maybe someone here can confirm: If I rebook myself onto an earlier flight on the day, I assume I can still take a voucher at a later stage if I decide not to travel (I booked under the Book with Confidence rules)

Yes you can.

Aug 5, 2020, 10:19 am

#217

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Yes you can.

Perfect, thank you very much! And apologies for hijacking the thread for a different question.

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Aug 5, 2020, 10:26 am

#218

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My LAS flights have been changed to a 3-class 777-200 so, to save me from reading roughly 200 pages of FT, can anyone quickly give me an idea of the best CW seats? We are currently in 11J/K which look ok but I am also wondering about 5J/K?

My JFK - LHR flight for March next year has changed to a 777 with Club Suites and we're in 5E/F which I don't plan on changing unless someone thinks this is a bad choice?

Thanks!

Aug 5, 2020, 10:27 am

#219

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Originally Posted by Inselhuepfer

Perfect, thank you very much! And apologies for hijacking the thread for a different question.

If you need help on similar topics, the correct thread is here: Covid-19 BA Rebooking/Cancellation/Refund HELP & ADVICE *No Speculation etc*

It's getting rather long, but it does have all the info you're looking for. C-W-S in particular is mentioning to be careful because you never know when the rules might change, and BWC might get pulled. But since it was there when you booked, I think it should still work.

Aug 5, 2020, 10:40 am

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Aug 5, 2020, 10:46 am

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Originally Posted by Geordie405

My LAS flights have been changed to a 3-class 777-200 so, to save me from reading roughly 200 pages of FT, can anyone quickly give me an idea of the best CW seats?

Have you checked the dedicated thread?

Aug 5, 2020, 11:20 am

#222

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Have you checked the dedicated thread?

Thanks! This is so helpful. There's 50 pages of discussion on the 777 thread and 150+ pages on the Club World seat thread. I rarely fly 777 as the routes I frequent have been 747 dominated. I was hoping someone who flies the three-class 777-200 would be able to quickly say "You want X or Y" or that I should avoid A or B. But that's fine. I'll do my own legwork

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Aug 5, 2020, 11:29 am

#223

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My flight to philly on BA67 looks like its either a 777-200, 787-10 or A350 as its showing the club suite layout

Aug 5, 2020, 1:42 pm

#224

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My flight to philly on BA67 looks like its either a 777-200, 787-10 or A350 as its showing the club suite layout

PHL is down for the A350 this winter.

Aug 5, 2020, 1:46 pm

#225

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Originally Posted by Nephoi

has anyone the slightest idea why flights prior to mid October havent changed yet?

I believe I have an idea.

Right now they’re sorting out the winter schedule, which always happens at this time of year. They’re allocating aircraft and adjusting frequencies.

They haven’t touched October yet as they’re still dealing with the plans September. These are real time adjustments in relation to restrictions and Coronavirus situation. If we look at previous patterns, I would expect October will be dealt with at the end of this month.