BA Recall Staff from 26 Jun [the BA staff/unions/redundancies thread]
Oct 31, 2020, 8:27 am
#1336
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I just would have though that BA would want a single set of people to manage to give them flexibility. If they miss this opportunity they still end up with a mess to manage.
Oct 31, 2020, 8:36 am
#1337
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The point I’m trying to make is MF are only gaining improvements while legacy are only losing or making compromises on theirs.
I know that some feel legacy crew should all be on the same agreements as MF crew just to make it fair to them.
I know that some feel legacy crew should all be on the same agreements as MF crew just to make it fair to them.
Oct 31, 2020, 10:45 am
#1338
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I’m sure ultimately it will be one agreement for all cabin crew.
Presumably they are still in talks, so nothing agreed yet, so current agreements apply.
As CIHY says, this will benefit M/F in the long run if BASSA get agreement on some of these issues, as ultimately all crew will work to the same agreement and some of these things are things M/F would like too.
There won’t be a situation of some crew working to different agreements once talks are completed, so this is a benefit to M/F. (and passengers, as well rested crew are good for all).
Presumably they are still in talks, so nothing agreed yet, so current agreements apply.
As CIHY says, this will benefit M/F in the long run if BASSA get agreement on some of these issues, as ultimately all crew will work to the same agreement and some of these things are things M/F would like too.
There won’t be a situation of some crew working to different agreements once talks are completed, so this is a benefit to M/F. (and passengers, as well rested crew are good for all).
Oct 31, 2020, 8:31 pm
#1339
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Since the "single fleet" was meant to come into force as of November, does this mean that November has been rostered according to the old arrangements? Since there's not much flying at the moment, probably not hard logistically to do this for now.
Nov 1, 2020, 1:15 am
#1340
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Seems for now then whether single fleet or multi fleet agreement terms sort of not relevant for now with this new UK lockdown and travel banned unless essential travel whatever that really means. Just when it seemed that some positive steps were coming towards getting tests approved either on departure or arrival.
Guess there will be a lot of cancellations coming up in next few days and also maybe watch this space for furlough extensions across the board. Wonder how long it will be before any unpaid leave clause gets envoked beyond that already in the mitigation agreement
Also seems doubtful as well that this will end December 2 given the exit clause implying restrictions may only be eased if at all geographically within the country. The long hard winter just got harder for aviation but unfortunately that is the reality until this pandemic is under control..
Guess there will be a lot of cancellations coming up in next few days and also maybe watch this space for furlough extensions across the board. Wonder how long it will be before any unpaid leave clause gets envoked beyond that already in the mitigation agreement
Also seems doubtful as well that this will end December 2 given the exit clause implying restrictions may only be eased if at all geographically within the country. The long hard winter just got harder for aviation but unfortunately that is the reality until this pandemic is under control..
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Nov 1, 2020, 3:26 am
#1341
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I’m sure someone in the know can clarify.
Nov 1, 2020, 3:29 am
#1342
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Definitely not per old scheduling agreement. That sort of rostering would make commuting very difficult.
Nov 1, 2020, 4:07 am
#1343
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So the new fleet starts today and BA have left it to the IFM to use their “best judgement” with choosing/allocating working positions, soooo pleases that I am not having to deal with this!
It will be interesting to hear the story’s over the next few days, I know what I would have done but that’s for me to know. 😂
It will be interesting to hear the story’s over the next few days, I know what I would have done but that’s for me to know. 😂
Nov 1, 2020, 4:20 am
#1344
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Nov 1, 2020, 4:26 am
#1345
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What does it imply on the BASSA website that makes you think it’s different?
Nov 1, 2020, 5:15 am
#1346
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So the new fleet starts today and BA have left it to the IFM to use their “best judgement” with choosing/allocating working positions, soooo pleases that I am not having to deal with this!
It will be interesting to hear the story’s over the next few days, I know what I would have done but that’s for me to know. 😂
It will be interesting to hear the story’s over the next few days, I know what I would have done but that’s for me to know. 😂
Nov 1, 2020, 10:32 am
#1347
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Yeah today is the first day of them all working together. A friend who works for Mixed Fleet posted an Instagram half way through his trip and about to leave for his return sector -
"Customer Service Manager yesterday... Inflight Manager today!"
This is from June from Head For Points - I presume this is now the deal? https://www.headforpoints.com/2020/0...r-mixed-fleet/
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"Customer Service Manager yesterday... Inflight Manager today!"
This is from June from Head For Points - I presume this is now the deal? https://www.headforpoints.com/2020/0...r-mixed-fleet/
.
Nov 1, 2020, 2:21 pm
#1348
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How bad can World Traveller to Orlando be with 40 infants? 😂
Nov 1, 2020, 2:31 pm
#1349
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As for Orlando, that is something you would need to ask the LGW crew as LHR doesn’t operate there. But, I get your point:
Nov 1, 2020, 3:01 pm
#1350
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We used too and they will in the future.