BA Recall Staff from 26 Jun [the BA staff/unions/redundancies thread]
Oct 28, 2020, 9:05 am
#1306
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There is always the temporary lay-off clause that BA can resort to, in addition to this, unpaid leave even pre-COVID-19 was very well subscribed to, so perhaps with those 2 measures, it’ll avoid any further redundancies for now. I don’t think BA staff can handle any more dramatics of betrayal from Unite and the company! Fingers and toes crossed for all staff! 
Oct 28, 2020, 9:41 am
#1307
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As for the government they have been faffing around since this all started and now aviation has almost arguably reached a make or break point in the UK so they need they make a decision and fully invest in both arrival and departure testing at a reasonable cost not the 100 or so plus pounds proposed. Plus who would have ever thought 12 months ago that LHR would now be overtaken by CDG as Europes busiest that has to be a warning sign that something needs to happen
Oct 29, 2020, 2:27 pm
#1308
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Some really good improvements to the scheduling agreements have been agreed thanks to BASSA and more to come.
Oct 29, 2020, 3:46 pm
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Will those improvements apply to all LHR cabin crew regardless of what fleet they originally came from?
Oct 29, 2020, 3:52 pm
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No I don’t think MFU have been able to get all the improvements for their members.
Oct 29, 2020, 4:38 pm
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Oct 29, 2020, 9:58 pm
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Oct 30, 2020, 12:24 am
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I have two possible explanations: the smart (but mean) is 'divide et impera'; the other is 'incompetence'.
Oct 30, 2020, 12:42 am
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Incompetence of MFU would get my vote as seems looking from the outside they are always playing catch up to BASSA. Both these Unite branches need to bash heads together and respresent ALL crew consistently given an integrated fleet is the reality from November. So fine have people on different compensation packages but everything else should at some point be merged into single set of work practices. Sure there will be winners and losers but thats life.
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Oct 30, 2020, 12:56 am
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Incompetnce of MFU would get my vote as seems looking from the outside they are always playing catch up to BASSA. Both these Unite branches need to bash heads together and respresent ALL crew consistently given an integrated fleet is the reality from November. So fine have people on different compensation packages but everything else should at some point be merged into single set of work practices. Sure there will be winners and losers but thats life.
Oct 30, 2020, 3:13 am
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But that cannot happen at the moment can it?
Oct 30, 2020, 4:28 am
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It’s a shame that not all crew will be flying to the same (improved) agreements. Apparently some things never change!
Oct 30, 2020, 7:26 am
#1319
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Just posted On the BASSA website news section I get the impression that WW at least are keeping some of their current agreements for now . For example having any LH single night stops taken off their schedules, so much for an integrated fleet where everyone works together with the same stops, standbys etc... Seems BASSA are determined to ensure nothing much changes despite the fact that things need to change simply for the airline to survive long term .
Oct 30, 2020, 7:29 am
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Just posted On the BASSA website news section I get the impression that WW at least are keeping some of their current agreements for now . For example having any LH single night stops taken off their schedules, so much for an integrated fleet where everyone works together with the same stops, standbys etc... Seems BASSA are determined to ensure nothing much changes despite the fact that things need to change simply for the airline to survive long term .