BA Recall Staff from 26 Jun [the BA staff/unions/redundancies thread]
#31
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 373
Just received cancellation emails for 2 sets of flights in August to Italy (outbound and inbounds) which has surprised me so clearly not all staff will be back to work!
#32
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Programs: IC Hotels Spire, BA Gold
Posts: 8,668
Doing this hardly inspires people to book with any sort of confidence, particularly if you add in the well publicised negative press on BA (and others) making it extremely difficult to get a quick cash refund when they cancel a flight. Who would want to book anything at the moment?
Plus presumably it also delays the number of BA staff (particularly CC) returning to work as this is proportional to the number of flights running.
#33
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Mucci de la Cuisine Aérienne du Réseau Courte Durée de British Airways
Posts: 4,704
This does seem really odd because today it has been announced that Italy <>UK travel is highly likely to be exempted from the 14-day rule on returning - this is what BA (and other airlines) have been continually stating is the prime reason why they cannot return to having some form of normality this summer. Repeatedly cancelling flights some 2+ months out as many have posted seems very counterproductive to getting people to travel. How on earth do any airlines know what demand will be 2+ months out from now with the situation, rules changing daily?
Doing this hardly inspires people to book with any sort of confidence, particularly if you add in the well publicised negative press on BA (and others) making it extremely difficult to get a quick cash refund when they cancel a flight. Who would want to book anything at the moment?
Plus presumably it also delays the number of BA staff (particularly CC) returning to work as this is proportional to the number of flights running.
Doing this hardly inspires people to book with any sort of confidence, particularly if you add in the well publicised negative press on BA (and others) making it extremely difficult to get a quick cash refund when they cancel a flight. Who would want to book anything at the moment?
Plus presumably it also delays the number of BA staff (particularly CC) returning to work as this is proportional to the number of flights running.
This may be the reason for certain flights to be cancelled plus consolidations of flights will take place when there is less demand. Neither business travel or leisure travel will be back to the previous levels for a long time to come. So I would expect you to see many flight cancellations even those we start to operate some flights.
#34
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK
Programs: Tufty Club (Gold), BAGA Gymnastics level 4, 440yds swimming certificate
Posts: 2,533
Why are people surprised flights are being cancelled months ahead? Its going to take YEARS before BA needs 5/6 flights a day to most destinations. A quarter of the workforce is going, flights already operate on minimum crew, why are people expecting anything near a full schedule.
#35
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: UK - Hampshire & London
Programs: Mucci de Guardian des Celliers des Grands Crus 1e Classé, plus BAEC.
Posts: 2,734
Likewise surprised at the level of surprise re. flight cancellations.
Did people really expect BA to run a full Aug service???
Did people really expect BA to run a full Aug service???
#36
Join Date: Jul 2011
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#37
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Its an interesting article for sure, but if it were truly balanced there'd be more emphaiss on the points against
Its clearly written by someone against the proposals so therefore its not likely to be hugely balanced
#38
Join Date: Sep 2015
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#39
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Yes, I knew that comment that might set a few people off. Sorry!
#40
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Fair article written by someone who understands the workings of BA.
#41
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,237
OH has been furloughed until end of July. In case it's of interest.
#42
Join Date: Jul 2011
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BA have unveiled a ‘soft landing’ for EF and WW crew.
Basically it is 80% of your current basic salary until the pay of the new roles catch up.
This is subject to consultation.
Basically it is 80% of your current basic salary until the pay of the new roles catch up.
This is subject to consultation.
#43
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,237
I have to say, it’s a victory for BASSA. BA have demonstrated that this wasn’t really for money (or otherwise they wouldn’t concede this much) and have given a masterclass on how not to run Industrial Relations.
Mixed Fleet Unite as usual played the part of the wallpaper, it seems.
#45
Join Date: Jun 2020
Programs: BAEC GGL
Posts: 46
Basically until the death of the universe, considering wage growth on MF...
I have to say, it’s a victory for BASSA. BA have demonstrated that this wasn’t really for money (or otherwise they wouldn’t concede this much) and have given a masterclass on how not to run Industrial Relations.
Mixed Fleet Unite as usual played the part of the wallpaper, it seems.
I have to say, it’s a victory for BASSA. BA have demonstrated that this wasn’t really for money (or otherwise they wouldn’t concede this much) and have given a masterclass on how not to run Industrial Relations.
Mixed Fleet Unite as usual played the part of the wallpaper, it seems.
Yup still a single fleet with all the other changes.