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British Citizenship by Naturalisation - Absences from the UK

Old Jun 17, 20, 3:46 am
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British Citizenship by Naturalisation - Absences from the UK

I am going through the process of obtaining British Citizenship through Naturalisation at the moment and one key component of the application is to list my absences from the country for the last 5 years, they consider an absence even a 1-day business trip so I will probably have to list around 200 trips, quite a daunting exercise. I wonder if anyone has gone through this already and has any advice and if BA can provide me with this information if I request it.
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Old Jun 17, 20, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by jotaele View Post
I am going through the process of obtaining British Citizenship through Naturalisation at the moment and one key component of the application is to list my absences from the country for the last 5 years, they consider an absence even a 1-day business trip so I will probably have to list around 200 trips, quite a daunting exercise. I wonder if anyone has gone through this already and has any advice and if BA can provide me with this information if I request it.
I have! Glad I keep records of all my flights You need to list all the trips outside of the UK, they only count days which you're fully away. Example if you fly to Amsterdam on Friday and fly back on Sunday, you would only count 1 day away from the UK.
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Old Jun 17, 20, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by jotaele View Post
if BA can provide me with this information if I request it.
I can't comment on the process, but you can make a data subject a cess request to BA (and any other airline) to get the data the hold on you.

Be upfront, tell them exactly why you need it, it's just a listing of flights you want, no other info, and that may help they give you the info you need in as discussed a manner as possible. Because BA do hold a lot of other data and it can be quite a lot of work to process that request and redact any info about others booked on the same PNRs.

[email protected] is where you need to apply.

Good luck with the application, both to BA (easy) and the Home Office (no comment).
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Old Jun 17, 20, 3:56 am
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I went through the same procedure a couple of years ago and I used My Flight Path in my BA Account as this lists all flights taken on BA going back to 2001. Unfortunately I still had to transfer this information to a Word document which I attached to my application at the time as I ran out of space on the form.

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Old Jun 17, 20, 4:17 am
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Originally Posted by Inselhuepfer View Post
I went through the same procedure a couple of years ago and I used My Flight Path in my BA Account as this lists all flights taken on BA going back to 2001. Unfortunately I still had to transfer this information to a Word document which I attached to my application at the time as I ran out of space on the form.

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Only works if all your flights are with BA or OW. And if redemption flights, they post also albeit with 0 Avios and 0 TPs.
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Old Jun 17, 20, 4:34 am
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Hi, been there 5 years ago.
A couple of points you might want to consider:

- Don't count how many full days you've been out of the country - instead do count how many nights you've slept outside the UK and remove a night for each trip, it's easier.
- BA's "My Flight Path" might be a helpful resource however in my case I also had a ton of flights with non-OW carriers
- In my case I found it very useful to check travel dates using my company's expense reports system (assuming every time I traveled I had corporate expenses to submit). But also consider your vacations and leisure weekends away.
- when I applied, one of the requirements was relating to the last year before the application - only allowed 90 days (nights) out of the country. In that case my employer prepared a letter explaining the nature of my role / travel as I had more than 180 days out...

Finally - if in doubt about a trip date please include it - Home Office performs spot checks and in case you don't declare absence but they find you out of the Country they will reject your application, I know a couple of horror stories about this....

Good luck!
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Old Jun 17, 20, 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by plunet View Post
I can't comment on the process, but you can make a data subject a cess request to BA (and any other airline) to get the data the hold on you.

Be upfront, tell them exactly why you need it, it's just a listing of flights you want, no other info, and that may help they give you the info you need in as discussed a manner as possible. Because BA do hold a lot of other data and it can be quite a lot of work to process that request and redact any info about others booked on the same PNRs.
The alternative, which is fairly new (and hat tip to @Speedbird7304 ) is this online page which results in you getting a PDF back after 30 minutes or so:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...centre/public/

For other reasons, it's often a good idea to keep a spreadsheet of travel up to date.
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One that may work, is that for Australia in order to avoid a private health insurance levy when returning I needed to show each time I was out of the country over ten years (!). This was made simple through a request to the equivalent of Border Force who provided a log of their records each time I swiped my passport in and out of the country. So you could try a request to Border Force? (I just needed to show dates in and out, not where I actually was).

(I realise the above was for UK not AU, but I never would have thought of asking immigration for this until I got the helpful advice)

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Old Jun 17, 20, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by jotaele View Post
I wonder if anyone has gone through this already and has any advice and if BA can provide me with this information if I request it.
Just wondering - can't you request your immigration record from the Home Office?
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Old Jun 17, 20, 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by Koru Flyer View Post
One that may work, is that for Australia in order to avoid a private health insurance levy when returning I needed to show each time I was out of the country over ten years (!). This was made simple through a request to the equivalent of Border Force who provided a log of their records each time I swiped my passport in and out of the country. So you could try a request to Border Force? (I just needed to show dates in and out, not where I actually was).

(I realise the above was for UK not AU, but I never would have thought of asking immigration for this until I got the helpful advice)

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U.K. has no exit border control so that data won’t be available. Good point for countries with entry/exit control though.
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Old Jun 17, 20, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
The alternative, which is fairly new (and hat tip to @Speedbird7304 ) is this online page which results in you getting a PDF back after 30 minutes or so:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...centre/public/

For other reasons, it's often a good idea to keep a spreadsheet of travel up to date.
Got the report almost instantaneously after submitting the form, worked like a charm! Thank you so much.
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Old Jun 17, 20, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
The alternative, which is fairly new (and hat tip to @Speedbird7304 ) is this online page which results in you getting a PDF back after 30 minutes or so:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...centre/public/

For other reasons, it's often a good idea to keep a spreadsheet of travel up to date.
Used this last year to double check something for a visa application for Mrs Wilsnunn where there was a hole in my own data, worked a treat and came instantly. (Maybe c-w-s has so many flights that it takes the full 30 minutes for his data to be collated!)
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Old Jun 17, 20, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave View Post
The alternative, which is fairly new (and hat tip to @Speedbird7304 ) is this online page which results in you getting a PDF back after 30 minutes or so:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...centre/public/
Another vote in favour of that link. If you contact EasyJet they can send you something similar. If you've travelled to the US you might want to look at

https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/I94/

Just be aware that the online form might cap-out at around 30ish trips (I think!) so I added a word document with my list of trips.
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Old Jun 17, 20, 1:14 pm
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Has anyone tried the idea (which I have seen described in another forum) of asking the Home Office what data they have about you and then submitting the travel history back to them, thereby making the data submitted exactly match the data they have?
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Old Jun 17, 20, 1:21 pm
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Has anyone tried the idea (which I have seen described in another forum) of asking the Home Office what data they have about you and then submitting the travel history back to them, thereby making the data submitted exactly match the data they have?
I went through this ordeal for my Canadian citizenship application two years ago.

The issue with that is going to be that they'll only have your country-entries, but not your exits, which you'll have to fill out manually in each case anyway. Don't know if they'll be requestable.

So yes - I had to list all my trips and then at my interview they compared the immigration printout to all the trips I had taken and asked about any missing one (I had forgotten one road trip), as well as some of the rapid re-entry ones (e.g. enter the country on July 5th and then on the 6th again, what happened there, etc.).
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