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No tourist travel to US likely for “months”

Old Jun 14, 2020, 3:14 am
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No tourist travel to US likely for “months”

Given how vital the US tourism market is to BA’s recovery, I thought this deserved it’s own thread but mods move if appropriate

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/...-39284301.html

According to Dr Faucci it’ll be months before the US opens its borders to tourists
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 3:22 am
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Given the general situation over there I don’t think that many tourists would like to go even if they could.
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 3:25 am
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And then there is the very possible scenario of Donald Trump waking up in the middle of the night and tweeting "we are now open to everyone".
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 3:30 am
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I don't totally understand why the US would seek to prevent tourism from countries that have minimal / no COVID-19 cases just because they have completely failed to get it under control domestically, but sounds like they are offering to do European countries a favour here.

The other key point is that the article assumes the Trump administration will actually listen and act on what its scientific advisers advise, which has been proven to be far from a given.
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by lost_in_translation
I don't totally understand why the US would seek to prevent tourism from countries that have minimal / no COVID-19 cases just because they have completely failed to get it under control domestically
Without wishing to take this thread in a political direction, it doesn’t fit the narrative of blaming Europeans for the spread there.

There was word of an air bridge between the U.K. and US, which seems crazy when we (the U.K.) would still quarantine visitors from far less infected countries. I don’t see the sense (economics aside) of air bridges at all, actually. A countries risk to us isn’t reduced just because they don’t quarantine our citizens.
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 4:08 am
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Originally Posted by PxC
Without wishing to take this thread in a political direction, it doesn’t fit the narrative of blaming Europeans for the spread there.

There was word of an air bridge between the U.K. and US, which seems crazy when we (the U.K.) would still quarantine visitors from far less infected countries. I don’t see the sense (economics aside) of air bridges at all, actually. A countries risk to us isn’t reduced just because they don’t quarantine our citizens.
i totally see the chance that the U.S. open up late Summer for some european country who did the right things in the right time. i dont see the U.K. and Sweden on that list.
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 4:10 am
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And then there is the very possible scenario of Donald Trump waking up in the middle of the night and tweeting "we are now open to everyone".
That's not going to happen. He needs people to blame and foreigners will remain high on his list.
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 4:21 am
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based on what i have been told by someone reasonably close to Trumps inner circle there is an intention to lift the presidential order in some form in the latter part of July, although given how unpredictable the administration is i wouldnt count on it.
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 4:32 am
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That's not going to happen. He needs people to blame and foreigners will remain high on his list.
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 4:33 am
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Originally Posted by ClubflyerLondon
based on what i have been told by someone reasonably close to Trumps inner circle there is an intention to lift the presidential order in some form in the latter part of July, although given how unpredictable the administration is i wouldnt count on it.
The only thing that matters is how unpredictable the virus is until then, and especially it's variable status across states since there was no central management of policies. Doesn't matter what POTUS wants.

Canada is keeping the border closed until July 21st at least and he is not happy about that either. Until that border is opened I wouldn't count on anything else happening but I have no insider info.
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 4:34 am
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They might open their borders, but that does not mean European governments will remove their travel advisories. How many would risk going there without insurance?
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 4:40 am
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Fauci has no say in these policy decisions; he merely can give his medical opinion.
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 4:50 am
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One thing to remember is that in places like New York City (where a lot of Europeans travel, and where there is a lot of density, and where the virus is actually now contained well), restaurants and other attractions won’t be ready to attract the capacity that large scale international tourism would demand for at least 6 weeks or so, if not a couple of months. I see July 31 as the earliest you could see international travel allowed, but September seems more likely when there is more of a full reopening nationwide
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 5:06 am
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Before America opens its borders to the world to non-essential traffic it will open them to Canada and Mexico. It is expected those borders will remain closed until mid-July at the earliest.

Then there is the expected quid pro quo. The UK imposes a 14 day quarantine on travellers. Are you prepared to go through the same to visit the U.S.A. or have your government lift the quarantine in return for American visitors?
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Old Jun 14, 2020, 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by Nephoi
i totally see the chance that the U.S. open up late Summer for some european country who did the right things in the right time. i dont see the U.K. and Sweden on that list.
I doubt it will have anything to do with who did what when. It will be dictated by the infection rates prevailing in places of origin at time of travel. I suspect by September the infection rate per capita will be broadly similar right across Europe.
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