FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
Jun 24, 2020, 4:32 am
#1321
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: LCY-ORY
Programs: BMI/SQ/AFKL/PC RAmbo®/Oyster/B&Q
Posts: 1,250
The recent year addition was the promised BA gift
Whereas August is my TP year end and i have surpassed Silver requalification requirements .
I think a perfectly legitimate expectation
Jun 24, 2020, 4:33 am
#1322
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
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I get that. But this is a change to the rules and terms and conditions. The rules say your membership lasts 12 months. The new rules say, your membership will be extended by 12 months. The new rules dont say it will be extended by 12 months but your earning period will be split in 2.
I'm still of the belief the TPs will continue, though I appreciate it's up in the air..
I'm still of the belief the TPs will continue, though I appreciate it's up in the air..
Jun 24, 2020, 4:44 am
#1323
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Essex
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 271
I think it wasn't answered as no one knew for sure. It seems the reduced thresholds will apply for current and next membership years https://www.headforpoints.com/2020/0...-tier-upgrade/
To be honest I thought I got this 12 month extension thingy wrapped around my head, yet some recent data points seem to have contradicted post #796 . Now I don't know what's the relative truth anymore!
So I'm just going to respond to you with this comment - your mother taught you well. And I'm sure there are far other more knowledgeable and less confused people in this forum who can help you out.
So I'm just going to respond to you with this comment - your mother taught you well. And I'm sure there are far other more knowledgeable and less confused people in this forum who can help you out.
Jun 24, 2020, 4:45 am
#1324
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Berkshire
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 380
Having been extended to Oct 2022 I asked for clarification on collection of TPs.
I received this:
Hope that helps.
I received this:
I can also confirm that the 25% reduced thresholds will apply to your Tier Point Collection year beginning September 2021, meaning you will need 225 Tier Points for Bronze, 450 Tier Points for Silver and 1,125 Tier Points for Gold.
Jun 24, 2020, 5:02 am
#1325
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To be honest I thought I got this 12 month extension thingy wrapped around my head, yet some recent data points seem to have contradicted post #796 . Now I don't know what's the relative truth anymore!
Jun 24, 2020, 5:13 am
#1326
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester
Programs: BA Gold, VS Gold
Posts: 291
I clearly fall into the criteria for an extension (and yes I have logged out and back in the app to make sure I have the latest info): BA told me in their email: “All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021”.
Jun 24, 2020, 5:18 am
#1327
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: JER
Programs: BA Gold/OWE, several MUCCI, and assorted Pensions!
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Except for some of us it just didn’t happen. I had re-qualified before the announcement with a tier point collection year ending 8 May 21 and card expiry 30 June 21.
I clearly fall into the criteria for an extension (and yes I have logged out and back in the app to make sure I have the latest info): BA told me in their email: “All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021”.
I clearly fall into the criteria for an extension (and yes I have logged out and back in the app to make sure I have the latest info): BA told me in their email: “All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021”.
The updates to membership years are about half way through the system.
Jun 24, 2020, 5:21 am
#1328
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Except for some of us it just didn’t happen. I had re-qualified before the announcement with a tier point collection year ending 8 May 21 and card expiry 30 June 21.
I clearly fall into the criteria for an extension (and yes I have logged out and back in the app to make sure I have the latest info): BA told me in their email: “All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021”.
I clearly fall into the criteria for an extension (and yes I have logged out and back in the app to make sure I have the latest info): BA told me in their email: “All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021”.
see under "Is your Executive Club year-end 8th May or 8th June?"
Jun 24, 2020, 5:30 am
#1329
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GGL / GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson Premium, IHG Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 5,896
I think that the use of the word "whining" in 1312 isn't appropriate, as the current situation will create the following tangible inequalities.
Currently, we all have to earn the same TPs over a year to get to our appropriate levels, which is totally equitable, despite our year-ends falling in different months. Over 3 years, we all need to earn 100% of the TPs required.
The new situation will create the following wholly inequitable earning requirements, which means that different people have to spend significantly different amounts of hard cash to achieve their desired status, based on a lottery of when their card happens to expire or whether they have been lucky enough to get to a higher tier in recent months:
Additionally, as each year passes, we have to assume that the routes available to earn the TPs will increase, making earning increasingly more achievable. So, yes, I would argue that those of us who have been "extended" to 2021 have been disadvantaged to a significantly greater extent than a few rounding errors, plus we have fewer flights to choose from during our discount year. I see no real need for the discount to apply all of the way through to 2022-2023.
Currently, we all have to earn the same TPs over a year to get to our appropriate levels, which is totally equitable, despite our year-ends falling in different months. Over 3 years, we all need to earn 100% of the TPs required.
The new situation will create the following wholly inequitable earning requirements, which means that different people have to spend significantly different amounts of hard cash to achieve their desired status, based on a lottery of when their card happens to expire or whether they have been lucky enough to get to a higher tier in recent months:
Additionally, as each year passes, we have to assume that the routes available to earn the TPs will increase, making earning increasingly more achievable. So, yes, I would argue that those of us who have been "extended" to 2021 have been disadvantaged to a significantly greater extent than a few rounding errors, plus we have fewer flights to choose from during our discount year. I see no real need for the discount to apply all of the way through to 2022-2023.
Jun 24, 2020, 5:56 am
#1330
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,293
I think that the use of the word "whining" in 1312 isn't appropriate, as the current situation will create the following tangible inequalities.
Currently, we all have to earn the same TPs over a year to get to our appropriate levels, which is totally equitable, despite our year-ends falling in different months. Over 3 years, we all need to earn 100% of the TPs required.
Additionally, as each year passes, we have to assume that the routes available to earn the TPs will increase, making earning increasingly more achievable. So, yes, I would argue that those of us who have been "extended" to 2021 have been disadvantaged to a significantly greater extent than a few rounding errors, plus we have fewer flights to choose from during our discount year. I see no real need for the discount to apply all of the way through to 2022-2023.
Currently, we all have to earn the same TPs over a year to get to our appropriate levels, which is totally equitable, despite our year-ends falling in different months. Over 3 years, we all need to earn 100% of the TPs required.
Additionally, as each year passes, we have to assume that the routes available to earn the TPs will increase, making earning increasingly more achievable. So, yes, I would argue that those of us who have been "extended" to 2021 have been disadvantaged to a significantly greater extent than a few rounding errors, plus we have fewer flights to choose from during our discount year. I see no real need for the discount to apply all of the way through to 2022-2023.
Jun 24, 2020, 6:03 am
#1331
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GGL / GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson Premium, IHG Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 5,896
OK - you might be right. But this would mean that those with an extension through to 2023 (as some people have managed to achieve!) that they wouldn't get a discounted period? That doesn't seem to fit with the approach promised in the email? It wouldn't make sense for them to have the discounted period before June 2022 as they actually won't need to be earning any TPs at all at that stage??
Jun 24, 2020, 6:10 am
#1333
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC, Eurostar
Posts: 3,293
OK - you might be right. But this would mean that those with an extension through to 2023 (as some people have managed to achieve!) that they wouldn't get a discounted period? That doesn't seem to fit with the approach promised in the email? It wouldn't make sense for them to have the discounted period before June 2022 as they actually won't need to be earning any TPs at all at that stage??
Fairness doesn't come into play, BA's business, BA set the rules.
Jun 24, 2020, 6:38 am
#1334
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
Posts: 2,409
OK - you might be right. But this would mean that those with an extension through to 2023 (as some people have managed to achieve!) that they wouldn't get a discounted period? That doesn't seem to fit with the approach promised in the email? It wouldn't make sense for them to have the discounted period before June 2022 as they actually won't need to be earning any TPs at all at that stage??
Anyway, Email should have been targeted and worded better
I think it's unfair if that's how it turns out.
But suppose, it is what it is.
.i say that as someone who isn't really going to affected by this though.
I still think the extension will be tweaked.
Jun 24, 2020, 6:55 am
#1335
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
Great result. Took a while for me to work it out, but presumably staring with an 8 Jan 2021 TP year end, achieving a higher status between 9 Jan 2020 and lockdown, so higher card had 28 Feb 2022 year end and then a 1 year extension to a Feb 2023 card end.