FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
Jun 11, 2020, 11:18 pm
#511
Join Date: Aug 2016
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 149
“All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021.”
Jun 11, 2020, 11:21 pm
#512
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
Posts: 2,409
Jun 11, 2020, 11:25 pm
#513
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,279
OK, separate out status upgrades from the time extension. It may also be helpful if anyone else is unsure to state what they ideally want to do so you can get advice as to how to do it.
If you do nothing:
You are Blue now, and you will renew as Blue in April 2021 (indeed it has a Lifetime Blue potential!).
If you aim for a status upgrade soon:
If you get to 225 TPs in the new few months you become Bronze. You will therefore renew as Bronze until April 2022. Or you could try for Silver at the lower threshold since that is perhaps going to be more achievable in the new few months if fares stay low. From April 2021 you currently would be also able to retain Bronze / Silver at the lower rates, but as with all these things, BA do have the right to revert back to higher thresholds and the chance of that happening grow over time. But the current wording suggests you are ok for 2021 in that respect.
If you aim for a status upgrade later
You are Blue now, renew as Blue in April 2021, you then target plenty of travel in May 2021, at the lower threshold levels, you then get Bronze or Silver middle 2021, you therefore get to April 2022 on your new higher leval and you continue at that higher level until April 2023 - tha latter aspect not being anything to do with the temporary extensions/thresholds.
If you do nothing:
You are Blue now, and you will renew as Blue in April 2021 (indeed it has a Lifetime Blue potential!).
If you aim for a status upgrade soon:
If you get to 225 TPs in the new few months you become Bronze. You will therefore renew as Bronze until April 2022. Or you could try for Silver at the lower threshold since that is perhaps going to be more achievable in the new few months if fares stay low. From April 2021 you currently would be also able to retain Bronze / Silver at the lower rates, but as with all these things, BA do have the right to revert back to higher thresholds and the chance of that happening grow over time. But the current wording suggests you are ok for 2021 in that respect.
If you aim for a status upgrade later
You are Blue now, renew as Blue in April 2021, you then target plenty of travel in May 2021, at the lower threshold levels, you then get Bronze or Silver middle 2021, you therefore get to April 2022 on your new higher leval and you continue at that higher level until April 2023 - tha latter aspect not being anything to do with the temporary extensions/thresholds.
Jun 11, 2020, 11:27 pm
#514
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 5
*Members whose Tier Point collection end date was in May or June 2020, who did not meet the reduced qualification requirement for their Tier will have the 12-month extension applied to their new Tier once their current card expiry date has passed.
So if you had already re qualified with the new requirement, it would make no difference to you. Of you didn't you probably won't get an email until your card expires.
So if you had already re qualified with the new requirement, it would make no difference to you. Of you didn't you probably won't get an email until your card expires.
Jun 11, 2020, 11:33 pm
#516
Moderator: Hyatt Gold Passport & Star Alliance
Join Date: May 1998
Location: London, UK
Programs: UA-1K 3MM/HY- LT Globalist/BA-GGL/GfL
Posts: 12,074
So I renewed GGL/CCR in May 2020.
BA say that
The additional year does take your status to May 2022, and this does include your Concorde Room card.
For your collection year from 09th May 2022 to 08th May 2023 you would currently need to earn the full 3000 Tier points to maintain Gold Guest List and 5000 Tier points for your Concorde Room card as the lower Tier points are only for the 2020-2021 collection years.
So I am good to relax until May 2022 when I need to think what I want to do for 2023-24!
Nice.
BA say that
The additional year does take your status to May 2022, and this does include your Concorde Room card.
For your collection year from 09th May 2022 to 08th May 2023 you would currently need to earn the full 3000 Tier points to maintain Gold Guest List and 5000 Tier points for your Concorde Room card as the lower Tier points are only for the 2020-2021 collection years.
So I am good to relax until May 2022 when I need to think what I want to do for 2023-24!
Nice.
Jun 11, 2020, 11:47 pm
#518
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,696
Jun 11, 2020, 11:50 pm
#519
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Feb 2010
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer
Posts: 63,696
Jun 11, 2020, 11:54 pm
#520
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: LHR / LAS
Programs: BA GfL, GGL/CCR
Posts: 2,409
Jun 11, 2020, 11:55 pm
#521
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 654
I think we just have to wait and see what actually happens when the changes are implemented.
I'm Bronze with 500 TPs plus 4 qualifying flights and a 8th July end date. I've seen conflicting reports as to what happens in my case, so I'm just going to wait it out. Either way, I'll be happy if I'm able to get Silver at all.
I'm Bronze with 500 TPs plus 4 qualifying flights and a 8th July end date. I've seen conflicting reports as to what happens in my case, so I'm just going to wait it out. Either way, I'll be happy if I'm able to get Silver at all.
Jun 12, 2020, 12:04 am
#522
Join Date: Feb 2016
Programs: BAEC GGL
Posts: 843
I thought this would have been simple, but apparently not.
I am a GGL/CCR, with TP year expiry date 8 Mar 2021, and card expiry date 30 April 2021 (per the web site), having gained 5000+ TP by 8 Mar 2020. Since that date I have not flown at all (zero TP).
So what I thought would happen is:
I am a GGL/CCR, with TP year expiry date 8 Mar 2021, and card expiry date 30 April 2021 (per the web site), having gained 5000+ TP by 8 Mar 2020. Since that date I have not flown at all (zero TP).
So what I thought would happen is:
- My GGL/CCR status would be extended an extra year (to 30 April 2022).
- It does not matter for status how many TP I collect until 8 Mar 2021, because I can't go up in status, and my status is extended by an extra year anyway.
- It does matter for GUFs I collect until 8 Mar 2021 and the GUF thresholds are unchanged.
- For the next year (until 8 Mar 2022) the thresholds to renew are reduced by 25%. So to renew CCR/GGL for example I will need to gather 3,750 (75% of 5,000) TP between 9 Mar 2021 and 8 Mar 2022 inclusive.
- I haven't got the email. Does this not apply to me? (No it's not in spam/junk/whatever)
- Prior to 8 Mar 2020 my expiry date (I can see it on last year's printed card - don't have this year's) was already 8 Mar 2021 (due to the IT fiasco I think) - I'm not sure what it said on the web site. But the web site now says no different to what last year's extended date was. Could the reason be that I have not received the email that my expiry date is actually not between July 2020 and June 2021 (i.e. it already is 30 April 2022)? In that case it seems a bit unfair that I'm not getting the reduction in TP collection threshold!
Jun 12, 2020, 12:17 am
#523
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Vancouver
Programs: AB BA Waterloo Mama Mia
Posts: 1,147
As a further complication to all of this. I am sitting at 430 avios for my year. I booked a flight pre announcement (month ago) with Avios ie no TP given the uncertainties. IF and depending on what the announcement means in relation to the timeframe within which I need to be gaining TP I may miss silver status because I fail to reach 450 . I could have easily booked a cash flight.
Jun 12, 2020, 12:18 am
#524
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Unio Europaea
Programs: BA GGL, AS, Hertz Cirque Présidentielle
Posts: 1,445
So the 12 month extension will be given at the end of my current membership year, depending on which level I've reached by then with the lowered thresholds, right?
Jun 12, 2020, 12:22 am
#525
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 5
I thought this would have been simple, but apparently not.
I am a GGL/CCR, with TP year expiry date 8 Mar 2021, and card expiry date 30 April 2021 (per the web site), having gained 5000+ TP by 8 Mar 2020. Since that date I have not flown at all (zero TP).
So what I thought would happen is:
I am a GGL/CCR, with TP year expiry date 8 Mar 2021, and card expiry date 30 April 2021 (per the web site), having gained 5000+ TP by 8 Mar 2020. Since that date I have not flown at all (zero TP).
So what I thought would happen is:
- My GGL/CCR status would be extended an extra year (to 30 April 2022).
- It does not matter for status how many TP I collect until 8 Mar 2021, because I can't go up in status, and my status is extended by an extra year anyway.
- It does matter for GUFs I collect until 8 Mar 2021 and the GUF thresholds are unchanged.
- For the next year (until 8 Mar 2022) the thresholds to renew are reduced by 25%. So to renew CCR/GGL for example I will need to gather 3,750 (75% of 5,000) TP between 9 Mar 2021 and 8 Mar 2022 inclusive.
- I haven't got the email. Does this not apply to me? (No it's not in spam/junk/whatever)
- Prior to 8 Mar 2020 my expiry date (I can see it on last year's printed card - don't have this year's) was already 8 Mar 2021 (due to the IT fiasco I think) - I'm not sure what it said on the web site. But the web site now says no different to what last year's extended date was. Could the reason be that I have not received the email that my expiry date is actually not between July 2020 and June 2021 (i.e. it already is 30 April 2022)? In that case it seems a bit unfair that I'm not getting the reduction in TP collection threshold!
