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FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced

FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced

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AS OF 11 July 2022:

BRITISH AIRWAYS PROTECTS TIER STATUS FOR ITS LOYAL EXECUTIVE CLUB MEMBERS
  • Gold Guest List with renewal dates July-December 2022 will be extended for a further 12 months
  • Gold members with renewal dates July-September 2022 will be extended for a further 12 months
  • Silver and bronze do not get any further renewal
  • However, Silver members with renewal dates July-September 2022 will given a 50% reduction in the amount of tier points needed (From 600 to 300 TPs)
  • Everyone else still gets the 25% reduction in tier points until 31 December. This also applies if you want to qualify for a higher status level.


See post 796 for further details https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32452931-post796.html

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...efits#vouchers

20 Sep 21 Update - see post #3594 onwards

21 Dec 21 Update - see post #3942 onwards

20 Apr 22 Update - see post #4483 onwards

The graph Illustrated below covers simple renewal milestones (collection year start/end dates) onto a blue bar (mid blue represents your current membership year; dark blue represents the extension periods). This does not touch the effect tier jumps have on the extension end dates. You can find confirmation of the extension being added to your BAEC account via "My Executive Club". This is signified by the "Card expiry date"


Updated 20 September 2021


Coronavirus: How the Executive Club is supporting you
Were adding 12 months extra onto your Executive Club membership so you have more time to enjoy your benefits, whenever youre ready to fly.

All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021.

Whats more, it will be even easier to retain your status next time youre up for renewal, as weve decreased the amount of Tier Points needed by 25%. This is the same for upgrades thresholds too, making that next Tier more achievable.

This results in lower Tier qualification thresholds, as shown below:

Bronze: 225 Tier Points or 18 eligible flights
Silver: 450 Tier Points or 37 eligible flights
Gold: 1125 Tier Points
Gold Guest List: 3,750 Tier Points (to attain), 2,250 Tier Points (to retain) [not in the original email but understood to be true]


To ensure our Members still have the opportunity to use their Gold Upgrade Vouchers, Companion Vouchers and Travel Together Tickets earned via a British Airways credit card, weve applied 6-month expiration extension to any current vouchers.

See link to BA site for further FAQs.


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Old Aug 3, 22, 1:58 pm
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Originally Posted by zen100 View Post
That's not right then. It shoud show the reduced thresholds in the app for your year end Oct 2022.

After that, it should then show the full target for year end Oct 2023, but the reduced thresholds will still apply until the end of December 2022.

Mmm. So what's going on?
If what has been said is correct ,they have made silver, then what would be shown is what is needed to get to gold. Maybe some timing issue having met thevreduced silver threshold but not the regular threshold before going for gold.A renewal number for silver till october, when silver has already bedn achieved, is meaningless. Just ignore it
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Old Aug 3, 22, 2:56 pm
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Mine expires 8th October - so I guess I miss out by a week or so. Hmmm
No-where near close to getting gold renewal.
Might email them nearer the time asking if any leeway
I do want to travel and miss travelling!
While some areas of travel such as USA have returned healthy, 80% of my travel was going east, and a good chunk of Asia is still a mess really.
The bulk of my corporate travel is still on hold (which was a nice earner to pay for holiday travel from overtime working away).... that's not really BA's fault, but I can't imagine I am alone here in seeing a huge drop in work travel.
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Old Aug 3, 22, 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingNowhere View Post
Mine expires 8th October - so I guess I miss out by a week or so. Hmmm
No-where near close to getting gold renewal.
Might email them nearer the time asking if any leeway
I do want to travel and miss travelling!
While some areas of travel such as USA have returned healthy, 80% of my travel was going east, and a good chunk of Asia is still a mess really.
The bulk of my corporate travel is still on hold (which was a nice earner to pay for holiday travel from overtime working away).... that's not really BA's fault, but I can't imagine I am alone here in seeing a huge drop in work travel.
you are not, that is why BA have been offering double points on BA holodaya bookings

If you were close i could see some leeway being offered, if you had a load of cancelled flights too. You said yourself you are miles off so I do not see it happening.

If they did extend you would you suddenly start travelling? I see the bulk of ygat on hold for a while. Finance people will not want to see travel expense costs increasec1000s of percent. There will be a slow climb back to corporate travel levels. Even mor

Seems any leeway would just be delaying the inevitable based on your mid term travel profile. Silver isnt so bad
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Old Aug 3, 22, 4:12 pm
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Like scottishpoet says, Silver isn’t so bad and at least when/if business travel resumes you would get the remainder of that year plus the next year at Gold.
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Old Aug 3, 22, 4:39 pm
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I may be wrong but I have a sneaking suspicion that the 31st December date may well be put back to next year, With all this nonsense this summer and the very real prospect of people boycotting Heathrow in future for connections (and who could blame them?) they will need to do something to make them want to stay. As I entertain a niggling feeling that BA is going to have a clear out of Elites by raising the Goalposts as it is clear that these so-called First Lounges at LHR are constantly packed. It must cost a fortune to keep these running.

That however is for another time. At the moment the very people who travel at short notice are being denied that possibility because of Heathrow's incompetence. Whoever heard of an airline prohibited from selling tickets to its customers. This is now extended to 15th August - it simply cannot go rolling on.
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Old Aug 3, 22, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE View Post
I may be wrong but I have a sneaking suspicion that the 31st December date may well be put back to next year, With all this nonsense this summer and the very real prospect of people boycotting Heathrow in future for connections (and who could blame them?) they will need to do something to make them want to stay. As I entertain a niggling feeling that BA is going to have a clear out of Elites by raising the Goalposts as it is clear that these so-called First Lounges at LHR are constantly packed. It must cost a fortune to keep these running.

That however is for another time. At the moment the very people who travel at short notice are being denied that possibility because of Heathrow's incompetence. Whoever heard of an airline prohibited from selling tickets to its customers. This is now extended to 15th August - it simply cannot go rolling on.
One of the reasons I no longer care if they finally drop me to Silver. Travelling is difficult enough these days that if I'm stumping up for the prices BA want I'll take airlines that have a better product and some certainty of actually flying and avoiding LHR. YYZ-LHR is just asking for trouble with airport/government incompetence on both ends
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Old Aug 3, 22, 11:41 pm
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE View Post
I may be wrong but I have a sneaking suspicion that the 31st December date may well be put back to next year,...
this would be extending the reduced tp threshold?

i do not see it myself, there are many ways to get the tp without flying ba
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Old Aug 4, 22, 12:19 am
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Originally Posted by scottishpoet View Post
this would be extending the reduced tp threshold?

i do not see it myself, there are many ways to get the tp without flying ba
Enlighten me please.
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Old Aug 4, 22, 12:23 am
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE View Post
Enlighten me please.
what do you want enlightened about? There have been many months of lots of flights to book, and there are many months more this year with flights to book. And this doesnt even account for all the non BA flights where you can earn. And of course you dont even need normal levels of TPs until the end of the year with the 25% reduced thresholds.

Tbh it seems with any disruption now there are always a few who start the demand for extensions. It can come across as entitled. It seems some are unable to move past the BA social security they have been receiving for a few years.
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Old Aug 4, 22, 1:34 am
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Originally Posted by scottishpoet View Post
As per the FAQ posted on the BaEC site and referred to several times in this thread, if your TP end date is beyond the end of 2022 then you will be shown the regular TP threshold to retain status.
This is true, and when you login to your Executive Club account on desktop, there is a huge great big message explaining exactly what is happening regarding the 31 December 2022 reduction, like so.


I don't see why people are confused by this still, when it's written right in front of your face on the website when you login to your account.

Maybe it's not on mobile, or maybe people just don't read. I don't know, but it seems pretty straightforward to me.
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Old Aug 4, 22, 2:43 am
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Originally Posted by FlightDetective View Post
This is true, and when you login to your Executive Club account on desktop, there is a huge great big message explaining exactly what is happening regarding the 31 December 2022 reduction, like so.

I don't see why people are confused by this still, when it's written right in front of your face on the website when you login to your account.

Maybe it's not on mobile, or maybe people just don't read. I don't know, but it seems pretty straightforward to me.
Above message somehow not showing for me! I'll give it a few days and then ring Exec club and double check.
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Old Aug 4, 22, 2:46 am
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Originally Posted by FlightDetective View Post
This is true, and when you login to your Executive Club account on desktop, there is a huge great big message explaining exactly what is happening regarding the 31 December 2022 reduction, like so.


I don't see why people are confused by this still, when it's written right in front of your face on the website when you login to your account.

Maybe it's not on mobile, or maybe people just don't read. I don't know, but it seems pretty straightforward to me.
Different accounts are not displaying the same. My partner's one shows the above message with incorrect progress bar target (non-reduced TPs), my account shows the correct target in the progress bar and doesn't have the extra written message.
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Old Aug 4, 22, 3:15 am
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Originally Posted by danmushman View Post
Different accounts are not displaying the same. My partner's one shows the above message with incorrect progress bar target (non-reduced TPs), my account shows the correct target in the progress bar and doesn't have the extra written message.
Your partner's one is like mine, which is correct. It says in the message text,

"From 1 January 2023, the normal Tier Point thresholds, as you can see in your progress tracker, will then apply."

I imagine the difference between your two accounts is down to renewal dates. Have you already passed your 2022 date yet? Mine was June and all of this appeared immediately after.
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Old Aug 4, 22, 3:28 am
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Originally Posted by FlightDetective View Post
Your partner's one is like mine, which is correct. It says in the message text,

"From 1 January 2023, the normal Tier Point thresholds, as you can see in your progress tracker, will then apply."

I imagine the difference between your two accounts is down to renewal dates. Have you already passed your 2022 date yet? Mine was June and all of this appeared immediately after.
I agree that the requirements pre and post 31 Dec 22 are clear, it's just BA's IT not doing the best job. I suspect it is related to year end dates. Will pass my renewal in 4 days, but I reached gold last month (BA IT suggests I've 'retained gold') so the progress bar has switched to Gold Upgrade Voucher target.
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Old Aug 4, 22, 4:21 am
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Originally Posted by danmushman View Post
I agree that the requirements pre and post 31 Dec 22 are clear, it's just BA's IT not doing the best job. I suspect it is related to year end dates. Will pass my renewal in 4 days, but I reached gold last month (BA IT suggests I've 'retained gold') so the progress bar has switched to Gold Upgrade Voucher target.
Congrats on hitting Gold, it's a fun place to be!

Yeah it will be the year end date then as I suspected. Yours will change over then to look like mine, with a 1,500 target and the message about the reduction through to 31 December.
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