FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
Jul 10, 2022, 5:38 am
#4786
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 5,916
I agree with the above. I do think 2022 Q4 memberships will be extended though, just a feeling given the ongoing cancellations.
@ISTFlyer.. also largely agree (and always appreciate reading your thoughtful posts). The only thing I would point out is that London based GGLs with GfL dropping to Gold next year doesn’t necessarily mean we are a captive for BA because we would be able to choose who to fly to the US with depending on value rather than loyalty. Whereas if trying to maintain GGL status there is a tendency to opt for “loyalty” over value (within reason of course).
@ISTFlyer.. also largely agree (and always appreciate reading your thoughtful posts). The only thing I would point out is that London based GGLs with GfL dropping to Gold next year doesn’t necessarily mean we are a captive for BA because we would be able to choose who to fly to the US with depending on value rather than loyalty. Whereas if trying to maintain GGL status there is a tendency to opt for “loyalty” over value (within reason of course).
Jul 10, 2022, 6:13 am
#4788
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Berkshire
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold, GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, Accor Plat, Pucci Fan Club
Posts: 1,779
Referring to Gold. My wife is Gold with October year end and I suspect Golds will be extended in Q4. Not a request… just my gut feeling that will happen,rightly or wrongly. 
Jul 10, 2022, 7:02 am
#4789
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
Jul 10, 2022, 7:09 am
#4790
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: BA Gold, TK Elite Plus, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 142
ISTFlyer makes very valid points. He says that most GGL are UK London based. But some of us are not. Those GGL based in the US have been flying non-stop for many months now and will have no problem to meet the thresholds, but those in the European continent, we continue suffering disruptions and reduced connections with LHR. As GGL, it is obvious to me that I will not make the reduced threshold by the end of this year and there is no chance of making the 3000 next year either. My company is still believing that Zoom will save us all and my centre of interest for work and pleasure, in East Asia, is still closed because of covid restrictions. Long story short, I am already now kissing goodbye to my GGL and preparing myself to being a Silver member again as of May 2023. I am not too far from GfL so I may still cling to BA to get it but it is obvious to me that, in the future, when I can fly, I will do it without the hassle of connecting at LHT T5 if I can. No hard feelings, it was great while it lasted
Last edited by docsxx; Jul 10, 2022 at 7:16 am
Jul 10, 2022, 8:38 am
#4791
Join Date: Oct 2015
Programs: BA Gold for Life
Posts: 1,390
Jul 12, 2022, 8:53 am
#4792
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Gold (and other non-status plastic)
Posts: 1,889
Jul 12, 2022, 9:00 am
#4793
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 833
Fine for Q4 GGLs who already have another year, but given today's request by LHR not to sell any more tickets, and not to rebook anyone whose flight is cancelled (I mean, WTAF?!), there are going to be a lot of downgrades and grumpy status holders if October Golds aren't extended... I for one will renew Gold only if all my long-planned summer flights actually *happen*, and who knows right now?!
However, this comes from a low starting point, so I still wouldn't hold out too much hope on it.
Jul 19, 2022, 6:24 am
#4795
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,328
I still think the big concern for BA with extending further is lounge capacity at T5. There's a reason the CCR card was removed and all GGLs given access to the CCR - as it eased the burden on GF a little.
Extensions for Q4 Golds was not offered - though it was given to GGLs. This all sounds like a capacity concern to me.
Extensions for Q4 Golds was not offered - though it was given to GGLs. This all sounds like a capacity concern to me.
Jul 19, 2022, 6:26 am
#4796
Join Date: Mar 2020
Programs: British Airways GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond & Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,612
I still think the big concern for BA with extending further is lounge capacity at T5. There's a reason the CCR card was removed and all GGLs given access to the CCR - as it eased the burden on GF a little.
Extensions for Q4 Golds was not offered - though it was given to GGLs. This all sounds like a capacity concern to me.
Extensions for Q4 Golds was not offered - though it was given to GGLs. This all sounds like a capacity concern to me.
/ they needed to incentivise customers and keep them loyal
Jul 19, 2022, 6:30 am
#4797
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
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Doesn't change the fact it reduced pressure on GF - which when coupled with the fact only GGLs got a Q4 extension and not Gold, still suggests capacity is a concern to me.
Jul 19, 2022, 6:31 am
#4798
Join Date: Mar 2020
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Jul 19, 2022, 6:46 am
#4799
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
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Jul 19, 2022, 9:56 pm
#4800
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Join Date: Oct 2021
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Here's a way more likely explanation that is consistent with all facts in evidence at this time. BA's current behavior is consistent with a multiheaded snake, an amoeba, Brownian Motion, Entropy, or any other similar analogy you can come up with. Their actions on everything from meal service on long haul flights, constant flight cancelations, rebooking, then canceling of the rebooked flight, treatment of upper level frequent flyers, you have it, everything you are observing is nearly entirely random. Assuming that there is some higher purpose, that someone is steering this rudderless ship, is an exercise in fantasy.
Mr. Cruz is starting look better by the day.
The people in charge now are making decisions on the fly. They don't know what they are doing, they are overwhelmed by circumstances and they are flailing in the wind.
Any other hypothesis would require evidence that one is dealing with sentient beings, and I'm having trouble coming up with any evidence of that.
Mr. Cruz is starting look better by the day.
The people in charge now are making decisions on the fly. They don't know what they are doing, they are overwhelmed by circumstances and they are flailing in the wind.
Any other hypothesis would require evidence that one is dealing with sentient beings, and I'm having trouble coming up with any evidence of that.