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FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced

FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced

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AS OF 11 July 2022:

BRITISH AIRWAYS PROTECTS TIER STATUS FOR ITS LOYAL EXECUTIVE CLUB MEMBERS
  • Gold Guest List with renewal dates July-December 2022 will be extended for a further 12 months
  • Gold members with renewal dates July-September 2022 will be extended for a further 12 months
  • Silver and bronze do not get any further renewal
  • However, Silver members with renewal dates July-September 2022 will given a 50% reduction in the amount of tier points needed (From 600 to 300 TPs)
  • Everyone else still gets the 25% reduction in tier points until 31 December. This also applies if you want to qualify for a higher status level.


See post 796 for further details https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32452931-post796.html

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...efits#vouchers

20 Sep 21 Update - see post #3594 onwards

21 Dec 21 Update - see post #3942 onwards

20 Apr 22 Update - see post #4483 onwards

The graph Illustrated below covers simple renewal milestones (collection year start/end dates) onto a blue bar (mid blue represents your current membership year; dark blue represents the extension periods). This does not touch the effect tier jumps have on the extension end dates. You can find confirmation of the extension being added to your BAEC account via "My Executive Club". This is signified by the "Card expiry date"


Updated 20 September 2021


Coronavirus: How the Executive Club is supporting you
Were adding 12 months extra onto your Executive Club membership so you have more time to enjoy your benefits, whenever youre ready to fly.

All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021.

Whats more, it will be even easier to retain your status next time youre up for renewal, as weve decreased the amount of Tier Points needed by 25%. This is the same for upgrades thresholds too, making that next Tier more achievable.

This results in lower Tier qualification thresholds, as shown below:

Bronze: 225 Tier Points or 18 eligible flights
Silver: 450 Tier Points or 37 eligible flights
Gold: 1125 Tier Points
Gold Guest List: 3,750 Tier Points (to attain), 2,250 Tier Points (to retain) [not in the original email but understood to be true]


To ensure our Members still have the opportunity to use their Gold Upgrade Vouchers, Companion Vouchers and Travel Together Tickets earned via a British Airways credit card, weve applied 6-month expiration extension to any current vouchers.

See link to BA site for further FAQs.


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Old Apr 16, 22, 1:27 pm
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Putting the inequality of UK based versus overseas based BAEC members to one side, the whole business versus leisure debate is an interesting one. Clearly, BA is courting the leisure traveller at a time when there is pent-up demand. Win them over and give them status, is not a bad strategy. Whereas, for business travellers, those corporate accounts and preference for time sensitive direct routings means business will come back, with or without extending status!
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Old Apr 16, 22, 1:28 pm
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Originally Posted by aks120 View Post
I have always thought folks who earn status through business spend rather than personal should have to attain a higher number of TPs anyway
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Old Apr 16, 22, 1:39 pm
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I've no idea if I got an extension last year. Was told nothing.
Ended up with 1100TP when my year ended on Dec 8th (one cancelled trip due to Covid that would have taken me over 1125)
Then got at least 1400TP in the following 10 days or so, so maintained Gold.

Just got the "year ends Dec 8th 2022, card expiry Jan 2023) so I've no idea if I've earned my status or been given an extra year (not that much use as nearly at GGL).
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Old Apr 16, 22, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by xenole View Post
I've no idea if I got an extension last year. Was told nothing.
Ended up with 1100TP when my year ended on Dec 8th (one cancelled trip due to Covid that would have taken me over 1125)
Then got at least 1400TP in the following 10 days or so, so maintained Gold.

Just got the "year ends Dec 8th 2022, card expiry Jan 2023) so I've no idea if I've earned my status or been given an extra year (not that much use as nearly at GGL).
Basically if you renewed anyway based on TP earnings, you would not have received any benefit from the extensions.
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Old Apr 16, 22, 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by TarquinMontague View Post
I don't see why it should be lower for a "renewal"
Motivation perhaps. Think GGL before 2020, 5000 TP to achieve and 3000 TP to maintain, both temporary lowered. Silver and Gold has been excluded for lower renewal, which was not previously. Although qualification and re-qualification threshold has been lowered but remain same.
Next month I'll have more TPs for Gold that needed, except those 4 BA/IB flights which I'll fly in the summer. Then will decide about GGL. My status extension is until March 2023.
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Old Apr 16, 22, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Jaenks View Post
Motivation perhaps. Think GGL before 2020, 5000 TP to achieve and 3000 TP to maintain, both temporary lowered.
I think that the answer is that this is not so much lower for renewal as, instead, higher for first qualification (to control the "gate"). Remember that before the changes, some years ago, GGL qualification was 5k "or" 3k two years in a row (ie effectively 3k renewal every year). The actual change was not to make renewal any easier than before, that wasn't changed, but simply to exclude those who had 3k two years in a row from entering GGL. Other threshold were not changed (except reduced thresholds for non-UK European residents which were ended and replaced by the standard UK numbers).
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Old Apr 16, 22, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by TedToToe View Post
Putting the inequality of UK based versus overseas based BAEC members to one side, the whole business versus leisure debate is an interesting one. Clearly, BA is courting the leisure traveller at a time when there is pent-up demand. Win them over and give them status, is not a bad strategy. Whereas, for business travellers, those corporate accounts and preference for time sensitive direct routings means business will come back, with or without extending status!
Perhaps that is true in general, but not universally. My business travel is mainly from a European Star Alliance base to the US - if I wanted direct routing I'd be on Star Alliance. BA was pre-Corona slightly cheaper (for which my employer incentivises me), and occasionally being able to stop in London was useful - and I had BA status before, so some inertia. But I'm not that weird - adding a few hours travel time on a transatlantic crossing is substantially less strange (to me) than travelling in economy which wipes me out for an additional day, and plenty of folk seem to do that. I was doing more substantially more than 5k TP a year (probably on business alone). However, if LX/LH status matched BA a few years ago, I'd probably be posting on a different board. Historically most of my points earning have been business (around 70%) with 30% leisure. This time I will most likely renew GGL with far fewer business transatlantic trips and (fingers crossed) rather a lot of double TP CE European leisure travel. This year I will be doing probably below 2k TP in business usage. I suspect (increased ability for folks to work effectively remotely) I will not be going back to anything like 5k TP for business per year.
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Old Apr 16, 22, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by aks120 View Post
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I have always thought folks who earn status through business spend rather than personal should have to attain a higher number of TPs anyway

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And hopefully they will bring in a min spend to attain status for those leisure travellers, after all, who knew it only cost sub 2k to cross the pond with a potential added double tier bonus too.
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Old Apr 16, 22, 6:26 pm
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Originally Posted by orbitmic View Post
not really surprising: leisure travel is far more under her control than business travel which for many of us is still virtually impossible depending on destination and company.
Indeed, policy is still "essential travel only" given financial risks that are not covered by insurance.
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Old Apr 16, 22, 9:48 pm
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Originally Posted by orbitmic View Post
I think that the answer is that this is not so much lower for renewal as, instead, higher for first qualification (to control the "gate"). Remember that before the changes, some years ago, GGL qualification was 5k "or" 3k two years in a row (ie effectively 3k renewal every year). The actual change was not to make renewal any easier than before, that wasn't changed, but simply to exclude those who had 3k two years in a row from entering GGL. Other threshold were not changed (except reduced thresholds for non-UK European residents which were ended and replaced by the standard UK numbers).
I am non-UK, that is why the renewal threshold was different. I also remember that those 3k renewals did not included CCR which was always 5k per year. Currently which may mean temporarily it is same TP requirement as for GGL.
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Old Apr 16, 22, 11:53 pm
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Originally Posted by carat22 View Post
And hopefully they will bring in a min spend to attain status for those leisure travellers, after all, who knew it only cost sub 2k to cross the pond with a potential added double tier bonus too.
Good idea. Perhaps a minimum spend by the customer, with spending by an employer not counting or only counting to some pot of benefits accruing to the employer?
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Old Apr 17, 22, 12:52 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA View Post
Good idea. Perhaps a minimum spend by the customer, with spending by an employer not counting or only counting to some pot of benefits accruing to the employer?
How much spend is paid for direct by the employer and how much by the passenger, then claimed back through expenses?
Business travellers would surely just revert to the later, claiming through expenses, if otherwise it didn't count towards their status?
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Old Apr 17, 22, 1:00 am
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Originally Posted by Fatdickie View Post
How much spend is paid for direct by the employer and how much by the passenger, then claimed back through expenses?
Business travellers would surely just revert to the later, claiming through expenses, if otherwise it didn't count towards their status?
certainly possible, albeit my own employer insists that flights are booked via the TA and not by myself and expensed. But anyway, I am just teasing and making a little bit of a point
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Old Apr 17, 22, 1:23 am
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My TP year end is October 22 (card expiry November 22).

During the two dates I'll be getting 1200 TPs to renew Gold for 2 years (all personal travel paid for by me btw).

Will it automatically go to gold over 1125 points, or do I have to wait for the special process to happen on Jan. 1st 23?
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Old Apr 17, 22, 1:55 am
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Originally Posted by stephenjc View Post
My TP year end is October 22 (card expiry November 22).

During the two dates I'll be getting 1200 TPs to renew Gold for 2 years (all personal travel paid for by me btw).

Will it automatically go to gold over 1125 points, or do I have to wait for the special process to happen on Jan. 1st 23?
So for upgrades it processes as soon as you hit the level of TPs required. For renewals though I dont think anything happens until you get to your year end.
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