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FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced

FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced

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AS OF 11 July 2022:

BRITISH AIRWAYS PROTECTS TIER STATUS FOR ITS LOYAL EXECUTIVE CLUB MEMBERS
  • Gold Guest List with renewal dates July-December 2022 will be extended for a further 12 months
  • Gold members with renewal dates July-September 2022 will be extended for a further 12 months
  • Silver and bronze do not get any further renewal
  • However, Silver members with renewal dates July-September 2022 will given a 50% reduction in the amount of tier points needed (From 600 to 300 TPs)
  • Everyone else still gets the 25% reduction in tier points until 31 December. This also applies if you want to qualify for a higher status level.


See post 796 for further details https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32452931-post796.html

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...efits#vouchers

20 Sep 21 Update - see post #3594 onwards

21 Dec 21 Update - see post #3942 onwards

20 Apr 22 Update - see post #4483 onwards

The graph Illustrated below covers simple renewal milestones (collection year start/end dates) onto a blue bar (mid blue represents your current membership year; dark blue represents the extension periods). This does not touch the effect tier jumps have on the extension end dates. You can find confirmation of the extension being added to your BAEC account via "My Executive Club". This is signified by the "Card expiry date"


Updated 20 September 2021


Coronavirus: How the Executive Club is supporting you
Were adding 12 months extra onto your Executive Club membership so you have more time to enjoy your benefits, whenever youre ready to fly.

All members will benefit, starting with those who have a Tier Point collection end date of July 2020, through to June 2021.

Whats more, it will be even easier to retain your status next time youre up for renewal, as weve decreased the amount of Tier Points needed by 25%. This is the same for upgrades thresholds too, making that next Tier more achievable.

This results in lower Tier qualification thresholds, as shown below:

Bronze: 225 Tier Points, or 18 eligible flights
Silver: 450 Tier Points or 37 eligible flights
Gold: 1125 Tier Points
Gold Guest List: 3,750 Tier Points (to attain), 2,250 Tier Points (to retain) [not in the original email but understood to be true]

You'll still need a minimum of 2 eligible flights for Bronze and 4 for Silver.

NB: These reduced qualification/requalification thresholds apply until 31 December 2022, regardless of when your membership year ends. They won't show on the BA app or website these will still say you need 300/600/1500 tier points but should you pass the reduced threshold for a higher tier, your level will increase as normal. If you requalify on an existing tier, your status will be extended by the end of January 2023.

To ensure our Members still have the opportunity to use their Gold Upgrade Vouchers, Companion Vouchers and Travel Together Tickets earned via a British Airways credit card, weve applied 6-month expiration extension to any current vouchers.

See link to BA site for further FAQs.



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Old Jul 13, 21, 1:48 am
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It could be read either way I guess. I'm sure the original email I got about status extention said there would be a reduced threashold when next you are up to renew your status, and the status isn't up for renewal until your extra year has experied.
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Old Jul 13, 21, 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by alex67500 View Post
This wording is what prompted me to think that the lower thresholds will be there until June 22, regardless of your year end. So as a November reset, if I reached 3750 by June I'd get a CCR card, but anytime after that the target is 5000
as a june reneweal that would leave me 21 days for 3750 tp
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Old Jul 13, 21, 2:01 am
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Originally Posted by TravelingZoomer View Post
I havent been following the thread too closely. Is the consensus that this is merely IT oversight and the TP thresholds should not be reduced?
I am curious but how do you get Gold status with just 40 lifetime tier points?

Has the image been altered?

The image shows clearly Retain Gold with 40 lifetime tier points and a zero household Avios.

Genuine question
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Old Jul 13, 21, 2:03 am
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Probably gifted by a GGL member
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Old Jul 13, 21, 10:07 pm
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Originally Posted by SonicStar817 View Post
They can earn on other Oneworld carriers in the meantime if possible. There's the issue of the minimum flight requirement, however they could wait until next year (if things improve) to get those or they can probably write to BAEC to get the minimum flight requirement waved which I'm sure someone here has done previously.
This is not an alternative tbh.

Options are very limited, ie AY and IB only in Europe. JL/RJ/QR to Asia is not really possible and AA to the US neither...
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Old Jul 14, 21, 1:17 am
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Originally Posted by florens View Post
This is not an alternative tbh.

Options are very limited
I'm sorry you didn't like my answer. We'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm standing by my opinion, but as I said in a subsequent post I'll be more than happy to be wrong.
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Old Jul 14, 21, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by BOH View Post
Apologies if this has been asked before but does the TP collection period still zero out at the usual annual date, despite the further extension?

For example, my usual TP reset-to-zero date is September 10th each year and so far I have 60TP in the current year. Will those 60 be lost on September 10th or rollover as part of the next year to September 2022?
No... but think of it this way: you have been effectively credited with the extra TPs needed to retain your status (although they do not count towards lifetime totals)
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Old Jul 14, 21, 1:38 pm
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And now to complicate the world 'open up' people given Indian-made Oxford-AZ vaccine cannot enter some european countries because this particular product has not been approved by the EU.
How will BA deal with these members who still can't travel, through no fault of their own, despite there being no material difference between their circumstance and someone with chemically/biologically the same protection.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-57834621

I would also say its ironic that the EU was attacking UK for not providing sufficient export doeses, but is now punishing UK citizens who have taken foreign-made vaccines necessitated because some of the UK production was going to meet export orders.

p.s. this doesn't impact me personally, but I'm just highlighting the challenges in fairness that BA (and other airlines) will face when deciding that the world has returned to 'normal'.
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Old Jul 14, 21, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by GBOAC View Post
And now to complicate the world 'open up' people given Indian-made Oxford-AZ vaccine cannot enter some european countries because this particular product has not been approved by the EU.
How will BA deal with these members who still can't travel, through no fault of their own, despite there being no material difference between their circumstance and someone with chemically/biologically the same protection.
At some point, people will have to accept that through non-travel, they will lose status. It may be as you say through no fault of their own, but equally its not BAs fault either.
It is unrealistic to expect concessions to be made indefinitely, and I really cant see an extension being granted only to people who had the Indian AZ jab.
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Old Jul 14, 21, 1:53 pm
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Originally Posted by GBOAC View Post
And now to complicate the world 'open up' people given Indian-made Oxford-AZ vaccine cannot enter some european countries because this particular product has not been approved by the EU.
How will BA deal with these members who still can't travel, through no fault of their own, despite there being no material difference between their circumstance and someone with chemically/biologically the same protection.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-57834621

I would also say its ironic that the EU was attacking UK for not providing sufficient export doeses, but is now punishing UK citizens who have taken foreign-made vaccines necessitated because some of the UK production was going to meet export orders.

p.s. this doesn't impact me personally, but I'm just highlighting the challenges in fairness that BA (and other airlines) will face when deciding that the world has returned to 'normal'.
I cant find the actual source right now but Im fairly certain the UK Gov responded to the EU on this topic some weeks ago.

The response was unequivocal, all AZ vaccines administered in the UK regardless of manufacturer will be recorded as Vaxzevria because it is the same vaccine. Vaxzevria is approved in the EU, Covishield (the trade name for the Serum Institutes AZ vaccine) isnt yet.

My understanding is that Vaxzevria is what you need to see recorded on your COVID passport if you received AZ vaccine in the UK.
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Old Jul 14, 21, 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by SHT88T View Post
My understanding is that Vaxzevria is what you need to see recorded on your COVID passport if you received AZ vaccine in the UK.
The batch numbers differentiate the varieties...
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Old Jul 14, 21, 11:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Cyberhacker View Post
The batch numbers differentiate the varieties...
Is the batch number recorded on the NHS App passport? I havent see it. I assumed that given the fairly forceful rebuke there would be no way left to differentiate if you were jabbed in the UK.
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Old Jul 15, 21, 12:27 am
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Originally Posted by SHT88T View Post
Is the batch number recorded on the NHS App passport? I haven’t see it. I assumed that given the fairly forceful rebuke there would be no way left to differentiate if you were jabbed in the UK.
Yes, the batch number of each jab is shown on the NHS App, and all the NHS paper records of vaccination. The batches of AstraZeneca that were manufactured in India have one of the following batch numbers in the NHS record: 4120Z001, 4120Z002 and 4120Z003.
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Old Jul 15, 21, 12:52 am
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Originally Posted by Tobias-UK View Post
Yes, the batch number of each jab is shown on the NHS App, and all the NHS paper records of vaccination.
And these are being checked whether they are the Indian made batches, according to various media, however a good amount allegedly accept it without issues (please do verify this if you are affected!)
  • Austria
  • Belgium
  • Bulgaria
  • Finland
  • Germany
  • Greece
  • Hungary
  • Iceland
  • Ireland
  • Latvia
  • the Netherlands
  • Slovenia
  • Spain
  • Sweden
  • Switzerland
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Old Jul 15, 21, 8:07 am
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Just been on with GGL Line - more cancelled trips for me - getting quite depressed with it all. I asked about status / renewals (I am an April 22) and still no overall decision made yet - Agent said should know in the next few months.

I can see a drop to Silver coming but hopefully when things really start opening up again getting back to the dizzy heights of GGL are just a matter of time.
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