FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
Mar 9, 2021, 7:39 pm
#2851
Moderator, Hertz; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: KRK
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Nice! My collection end Oct, card till end of Nov and with this extension I should be good till Oct 2022 (for collection). I already did a few TP runs, but it's a relief I don't need to rush to earn another 1200tps or so to renew GGL
Mar 9, 2021, 11:41 pm
#2854
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: DUB/ORD/SIN/PVG
Programs: EI AerClub Concierge, EK Gold, BA Gold, BD Gold (Retired), HHonors Diamond, Bonvoy Lifetime Gold
Posts: 2,923
Cobol/fortran
Surely BA will take the opportunity to break free of the COBOL/FORTRAN era and shift everyone to calendar year status earning/renewal? ie just give everyone a status extension to Dec 2022 and we all start again together from Jan 2023?
(My current Feb 8 2022 renewal date is in no way influencing me, honest...)
(My current Feb 8 2022 renewal date is in no way influencing me, honest...)
Mar 10, 2021, 12:58 am
#2855
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Cumbria
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 4,510
I know you're not new here, so you're well aware of the TP Run thread and that [non-reduced] Silver is a single optimised trip the the West Coast - why the pretence that collecting many or all TPs near year end is unusual?
Moreover, I didn't say I [or she] blamed BA for this. I merely supplied an example of one who might feel a little hard done by since the exact same travel pattern, but with a July renewal date - would have been good at Silver through 2022. This kind of thing is inevitable with the BAEC varied renewal dates, and while she lost out I'm a September and still Silver - meaning we can keep the main perks just fine. Others might not be so lucky - especially those who actually pay their own way to status - and I wouldn't blame them for for that.
Moreover, I didn't say I [or she] blamed BA for this. I merely supplied an example of one who might feel a little hard done by since the exact same travel pattern, but with a July renewal date - would have been good at Silver through 2022. This kind of thing is inevitable with the BAEC varied renewal dates, and while she lost out I'm a September and still Silver - meaning we can keep the main perks just fine. Others might not be so lucky - especially those who actually pay their own way to status - and I wouldn't blame them for for that.
However, I very much suspect something else will be done later in the year for those who have renewals in the early part of the year - myself included - who were not extended this time around. Just a case of wait and see.
Mar 10, 2021, 1:20 am
#2856
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BA Gold member Marriott Platinum
Posts: 281
As a Feb 2022 renewal gutted that I will have only 6-7 months to accrue the points to retain status. Been Gold now for around 8 years and surely BA have to realise that this punishes anyone with an early 2022 renewal.
Not happy and will politely raise the disparity to the BAEC. That said as of now I’ll be happy to be flying again as whatever status, in whatever cabin on any airline given how much I miss it!!
Not happy and will politely raise the disparity to the BAEC. That said as of now I’ll be happy to be flying again as whatever status, in whatever cabin on any airline given how much I miss it!!
Mar 10, 2021, 1:23 am
#2857
Join Date: Sep 2007
Programs: AA, BA, Accor, Honors Diamond, IHG Diamond Elite and lots more....
Posts: 2,969
As a Feb 2022 renewal gutted that I will have only 6-7 months to accrue the points to retain status. Been Gold now for around 8 years and surely BA have to realise that this punishes anyone with an early 2022 renewal.
Not happy and will politely raise the disparity to the BAEC. That said as of now I’ll be happy to be flying again as whatever status, in whatever cabin on any airline given how much I miss it!!
Not happy and will politely raise the disparity to the BAEC. That said as of now I’ll be happy to be flying again as whatever status, in whatever cabin on any airline given how much I miss it!!
Going to be very hard.
Doubt BAEC will listen.
Mar 10, 2021, 2:00 am
#2858
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 2,447
Simply because those with Jan/Feb/March/April/May/June 8th end dates are far less likely to retain status in my view.
May 17th 2021 is unlikely to be a realistic travel date. Holding my status until May 2022 might be a nicety (with no benefit so far, as zero travel), but seeing as I'm unlikely to be travelling until 2022 - a May 25th 2021 flight connection just cancelled, mid-July 202 connecting flight was cancelled the other week, I've got a 'red-list' trip in September that I won't be doing if it's still red-list - so that's about 1700 TPs I already won't obtain.
By that point I've got perhaps October to April - effectively a 50% time reduction - to earn the status in six months. Those with Jan 8th end dates are in a position where the possibility of retaining status is dramatically reduced approaching the point of zero.
May 17th 2021 is unlikely to be a realistic travel date. Holding my status until May 2022 might be a nicety (with no benefit so far, as zero travel), but seeing as I'm unlikely to be travelling until 2022 - a May 25th 2021 flight connection just cancelled, mid-July 202 connecting flight was cancelled the other week, I've got a 'red-list' trip in September that I won't be doing if it's still red-list - so that's about 1700 TPs I already won't obtain.
By that point I've got perhaps October to April - effectively a 50% time reduction - to earn the status in six months. Those with Jan 8th end dates are in a position where the possibility of retaining status is dramatically reduced approaching the point of zero.
Mar 10, 2021, 2:12 am
#2860
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BA Gold member Marriott Platinum
Posts: 281
Mar 10, 2021, 2:33 am
#2861
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges and Environmentally Friendly Travel
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 22,212
Yesterday's announcement is good news. I have a January reset but am not overly concerned that the revised extensions only run from July to December 2021. I talk to work colleagues and practically no one is travelling for business at the moment. Our corporate account is one of BA's largest and our corporate travel team is still furloughed - we are still in complete hibernation travel wise. Corporates, normally highly influential, are sleeping giants presently.
So looking ahead, I am 16% into my 12 month extension; the generous 25% discounted tier renewal rate still applies but will lose its effectiveness in 31 days. The Executive Club is responding, perhaps a little conservatively, which is probably the right approach but looking at the optics, yesterday's extension will not be the final one. I am confident of this.
So looking ahead, I am 16% into my 12 month extension; the generous 25% discounted tier renewal rate still applies but will lose its effectiveness in 31 days. The Executive Club is responding, perhaps a little conservatively, which is probably the right approach but looking at the optics, yesterday's extension will not be the final one. I am confident of this.
Mar 10, 2021, 4:34 am
#2864
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: The Hague/London
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, BA LTG, Hilton Diamond, FB Platinum, EK Gold
Posts: 366
Yes, as someone with a Jan 8th renewal date I am not happy, just a couple of months to gain all TP's, don't see it happening as who knows how international travel will be opening up.
Mar 10, 2021, 4:41 am
#2865
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
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We don't know if BA will do something for those beyond December 2021. You do have a 25% reduced threshold to renew.
