FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
Jan 12, 2021, 3:03 am
#2461
Join Date: May 2016
Location: EDI
Programs: Was BA GGL but no longer travelling
Posts: 583
I just called, primarily to ask about the expiry on my two FTVs as they are worth about £8k. But I also asked about extension. No news yet, but she felt that everything was still being reviewed.
So no further forward for me.
So no further forward for me.
Jan 12, 2021, 4:53 am
#2462
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GGL / GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson Premium, IHG Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 5,894
I think I will wait a week or so to see if there are any more consistent updates - much as I am very tempted to email BAEC
Jan 12, 2021, 6:41 am
#2463
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges and Environmentally Friendly Travel
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 22,212
Housekeeping notice
The side discussion concerning status matches has been consolidated into one thread, linked below
STATUS MATCH! Virgin Atlantic will match your British Airways Executive Club status
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STATUS MATCH! Virgin Atlantic will match your British Airways Executive Club status
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Jan 12, 2021, 8:35 am
#2464
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: London. Or a plane.
Programs: "Only" 50,000 TPs until BA GGLfL
Posts: 2,774
No, I'm laying out a plausible scenario. I don't claim it applies to every member but it does provide an example why some members might choose to spend elsewhere.
Let's say $4k a month, so that's what circa £3k or thereabouts. And further let's say our passenger is organically earning, so that £3k represents one longhaul J return each month or 280 TP. That seems reasonable I think.
So after 12 months they've earned 3360 TP. Unfortunately they lost GGL so they need 5000. No GGL for them.... I'm afraid I don't share your confidence that they would get it back 'very soon'.
Let's say $4k a month, so that's what circa £3k or thereabouts. And further let's say our passenger is organically earning, so that £3k represents one longhaul J return each month or 280 TP. That seems reasonable I think.
So after 12 months they've earned 3360 TP. Unfortunately they lost GGL so they need 5000. No GGL for them.... I'm afraid I don't share your confidence that they would get it back 'very soon'.
Jan 12, 2021, 8:39 am
#2465
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
A reminder that the renewal of GGL is 2250 TP's rather than the usual 3000 TP's.
If someone ends their year at 3360TP's, that person wouldn't get CCR for the next period but he would remain GGL for the next requalification period ( Starting at July 2021-June 2022 )
If someone ends their year at 3360TP's, that person wouldn't get CCR for the next period but he would remain GGL for the next requalification period ( Starting at July 2021-June 2022 )
Last edited by ISTFlyer; Jan 12, 2021 at 9:08 am
Jan 12, 2021, 9:07 am
#2467
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Jan 18, 2021, 10:06 am
#2468
Join Date: Apr 2020
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 6
A quick question - I have had a look at the forum to see if it has been answered previously. I am in the relatively fortunate position of having a 8 June year end. Does that mean that for the year finishing 8/6/2022 the points required to reach GGL is reduced by 25% from 5,000 to 3,750? Any assistance gratefully received.
Jan 18, 2021, 10:13 am
#2469
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
A quick question - I have had a look at the forum to see if it has been answered previously. I am in the relatively fortunate position of having a 8 June year end. Does that mean that for the year finishing 8/6/2022 the points required to reach GGL is reduced by 25% from 5,000 to 3,750? Any assistance gratefully received.
As you note, June members tend to do the best out of this scheme. You will enjoy the 25% reduction in your collection year 9/6/2021 through 8/6/2022 inclusive. So if you were looking to reach GGL/CCR (rather than retain an existing GGL status) that will indeed require 3750 during that period.
Jan 18, 2021, 1:41 pm
#2470
Join Date: Mar 2020
Programs: British Airways GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond & Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,612
Hi All,
So apologies, I am not very good at searching threads for answers.
I have an 8th Set renewal.
Last year (ending 8th Sept 2020) I obtained Gold (from Bronze) due to the reduce thresholds. I was fortunate enough to receive the 2 year membership card (so Gold lasting until 31st Oct 2022).
Ive rolled into this year with circa 1300/1400 TP, of which the majority will / have been cancelled already. Not a problem, I am under no pressure to earn this year.
My requirement is still reduced, 1125 to maintain Gold.
Come 9th Sept 2021 (so DAY1 of next year, everything will reset to zero) this is the year to earn TP to maintain Gold, will I have the 1125 target, or 1500 TP target?
I have 1225 TP booked already for this period (well Sept 2021 - Dec 2021) and I need to understand what my short haul strategy will be for the rest of the year (ie do I need to earn points or not).
Many thanks All.
So apologies, I am not very good at searching threads for answers.
I have an 8th Set renewal.
Last year (ending 8th Sept 2020) I obtained Gold (from Bronze) due to the reduce thresholds. I was fortunate enough to receive the 2 year membership card (so Gold lasting until 31st Oct 2022).
Ive rolled into this year with circa 1300/1400 TP, of which the majority will / have been cancelled already. Not a problem, I am under no pressure to earn this year.
My requirement is still reduced, 1125 to maintain Gold.
Come 9th Sept 2021 (so DAY1 of next year, everything will reset to zero) this is the year to earn TP to maintain Gold, will I have the 1125 target, or 1500 TP target?
I have 1225 TP booked already for this period (well Sept 2021 - Dec 2021) and I need to understand what my short haul strategy will be for the rest of the year (ie do I need to earn points or not).
Many thanks All.
Jan 18, 2021, 1:45 pm
#2471
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
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Hi All,
So apologies, I am not very good at searching threads for answers.
I have an 8th Set renewal.
Last year (ending 8th Sept 2020) I obtained Gold (from Bronze) due to the reduce thresholds. I was fortunate enough to receive the 2 year membership card (so Gold lasting until 31st Oct 2022).
Ive rolled into this year with circa 1300/1400 TP, of which the majority will / have been cancelled already. Not a problem, I am under no pressure to earn this year.
My requirement is still reduced, 1125 to maintain Gold.
Come 9th Sept 2021 (so DAY1 of next year, everything will reset to zero) this is the year to earn TP to maintain Gold, will I have the 1125 target, or 1500 TP target?
I have 1225 TP booked already for this period (well Sept 2021 - Dec 2021) and I need to understand what my short haul strategy will be for the rest of the year (ie do I need to earn points or not).
Many thanks All.
So apologies, I am not very good at searching threads for answers.
I have an 8th Set renewal.
Last year (ending 8th Sept 2020) I obtained Gold (from Bronze) due to the reduce thresholds. I was fortunate enough to receive the 2 year membership card (so Gold lasting until 31st Oct 2022).
Ive rolled into this year with circa 1300/1400 TP, of which the majority will / have been cancelled already. Not a problem, I am under no pressure to earn this year.
My requirement is still reduced, 1125 to maintain Gold.
Come 9th Sept 2021 (so DAY1 of next year, everything will reset to zero) this is the year to earn TP to maintain Gold, will I have the 1125 target, or 1500 TP target?
I have 1225 TP booked already for this period (well Sept 2021 - Dec 2021) and I need to understand what my short haul strategy will be for the rest of the year (ie do I need to earn points or not).
Many thanks All.
Jan 18, 2021, 1:49 pm
#2472
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
As a Sept renewal, your two periods of reduced target are (dd/mm/yy)
9/9/2019 -> 8/9/2020 <- You didn't need this one, because you were already working your way up the tiers
9/9/2020 -> 8/9/2021 <- You won't need this one, because since you stepped up a level rather than maintaining it, the way the system works means you got an extension.
So as you can see, and as ISTFlyer has commented, from 9/9/2021 you are back to 1500 needed, at least as things stand. Future changes to policy are of course possible.
Jan 18, 2021, 1:51 pm
#2473
Join Date: Mar 2020
Programs: British Airways GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond & Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,612
You'll need 1500TP under the policy as it stands at the moment.
As a Sept renewal, your two periods of reduced target are (dd/mm/yy)
9/9/2019 -> 8/9/2020 <- You didn't need this one, because you were already working your way up the tiers
9/9/2020 -> 8/9/2021 <- You won't need this one, because since you stepped up a level rather than maintaining it, the way the system works means you got an extension.
So as you can see, and as ISTFlyer has commented, from 9/9/2021 you are back to 1500 needed, at least as things stand. Future changes to policy are of course possible.
As a Sept renewal, your two periods of reduced target are (dd/mm/yy)
9/9/2019 -> 8/9/2020 <- You didn't need this one, because you were already working your way up the tiers
9/9/2020 -> 8/9/2021 <- You won't need this one, because since you stepped up a level rather than maintaining it, the way the system works means you got an extension.
So as you can see, and as ISTFlyer has commented, from 9/9/2021 you are back to 1500 needed, at least as things stand. Future changes to policy are of course possible.
As long as I can do my mini TP run in Oct (SOF) and my HKG (Qatar Ex EU) trip Im fine.
Jan 20, 2021, 1:15 am
#2474
Join Date: Mar 2017
Programs: BA GGL, GfL, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Lifetime Globalist, AllAccor Diamond, Marriott Ambassador Elite
Posts: 1,042
Speculation, I know, but what are the chances of everyone getting another one year extension? Even if the vaccine rollout is successful in the UK, I can't see business travel resuming until the autumn now. Perhaps most significantly of all, President Biden is not going to allow transatlantic travel to resume any time soon.
Last edited by HFHFFlyer; Jan 20, 2021 at 1:55 am
Jan 20, 2021, 1:33 am
#2475
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: BAEC Silver, Volare Executive / Skyteam Elite+
Posts: 672
I doubt BA will be the first to blink, but I agree that 2021 travel might not be much better than 2020 (and even if it is, it won't be until late Q3/Q4) and if I had to guess I'd say other airlines almost certainly will and if that happens it'd be a tactical misstep for BA not to offer at least what the competition are.