FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
#2206
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
Still no GGL cards or CCR card for me as a July renewal. GGL cards still show 'Pending' and 'Fulfilled' but no 'Dispatched', from mid-July, and no mention of CCR card but as stated previously, I have needed to request the CCR card every year for the last 4 years. Pretty rubbish process to be honest.
#2207
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: BAGold, Star Alliance Gold
Posts: 27
You don't need to earn any TP at all prior to 09/05/21
To retain Gold after 30/06/2022 you need to earn 1125 TP (+4 flights) between 09/05/2021 and 08/05/2022 inclusive. If you do so you will retain Gold until 30/06/2023. If you are unable to do so, you will "soft land" to Silver on 1/07/2022 retaining that until 30/06/2023.
Hope that helps. With a May renewal date, you are one of the "winners" in this scheme, relatively speaking.
To retain Gold after 30/06/2022 you need to earn 1125 TP (+4 flights) between 09/05/2021 and 08/05/2022 inclusive. If you do so you will retain Gold until 30/06/2023. If you are unable to do so, you will "soft land" to Silver on 1/07/2022 retaining that until 30/06/2023.
Hope that helps. With a May renewal date, you are one of the "winners" in this scheme, relatively speaking.
YES THAT HELPS thank you for the quick reply. Am now tempted to see what I can get in the Virgin Upper Class sale for Easter never tried it.
#2208
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Philly
Programs: AA, BA, NH, TP
Posts: 739
Still no GGL cards or CCR card for me as a July renewal. GGL cards still show 'Pending' and 'Fulfilled' but no 'Dispatched', from mid-July, and no mention of CCR card but as stated previously, I have needed to request the CCR card every year for the last 4 years. Pretty rubbish process to be honest.
#2209
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,281
So with another trip cancelled for January I’ll have had a total of just under 3000 tps since my tier year started. I currently am at 0 :/.
When should I write to them about this? My year doesn’t end until July.
When should I write to them about this? My year doesn’t end until July.
#2210
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GGL / GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson Premium, IHG Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 5,895
There are two options for you I think:
- If you're looking to get an upgrade to a new level, it's worth being in touch early, so that any new status you manage to negotiate on the basis of cancelled itineraries starts as early as possible.
- If you're a July year end and looking to maintain your existing level, I assume your extension is only to your card expiry of August 2021? In that case, it's worth contacting BAEC in May (as I have been advised also as a July year-end) - but I expect that they will have re-thought whether to extend the status extensions by then.
#2211
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,281
So, have you had 3000 TPs cancelled then? Are you looking to get a status upgrade to a new level or keep your existing level?
There are two options for you I think:
- If you're looking to get an upgrade to a new level, it's worth being in touch early, so that any new status you manage to negotiate on the basis of cancelled itineraries starts as early as possible.
- If you're a July year end and looking to maintain your existing level, I assume your extension is only to your card expiry of August 2021? In that case, it's worth contacting BAEC in May (as I have been advised also as a July year-end) - but I expect that they will have re-thought whether to extend the status extensions by then.
There are two options for you I think:
- If you're looking to get an upgrade to a new level, it's worth being in touch early, so that any new status you manage to negotiate on the basis of cancelled itineraries starts as early as possible.
- If you're a July year end and looking to maintain your existing level, I assume your extension is only to your card expiry of August 2021? In that case, it's worth contacting BAEC in May (as I have been advised also as a July year-end) - but I expect that they will have re-thought whether to extend the status extensions by then.
I’m a lowly bronze, obviously would love gold but would settle for silver at this point.
#2212
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: London, ARN, HEL, ..... or MAN
Programs: BA GGL / GFL, Mucci Diamond!, HH Diamond, Radisson Premium, IHG Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 5,895
Would be worth contacting them through the online form I think, outlining the cancellations and the number of TPs you would have earned from the cancelled flights. That's definitely enough for Silver - probably not too far off what you'd need for Gold
#2213
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold / Hilton Diamond / IHG Diamond Ambassador / Marriot Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 2,533
It seems clear from news reports and from
action of Hilton that nothing will get better soon. Would be nice to see BA do further extension into 22 now rather than hang on further. They were late to the party in May or June this year so
lets hope they have had a change of heart
action of Hilton that nothing will get better soon. Would be nice to see BA do further extension into 22 now rather than hang on further. They were late to the party in May or June this year so
lets hope they have had a change of heart
#2214
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Accor Live Limitless Gold, Hilton Honours Gold, Avis Preferred Plus
Posts: 1,806
It seems clear from news reports and from
action of Hilton that nothing will get better soon. Would be nice to see BA do further extension into 22 now rather than hang on further. They were late to the party in May or June this year so
lets hope they have had a change of heart
action of Hilton that nothing will get better soon. Would be nice to see BA do further extension into 22 now rather than hang on further. They were late to the party in May or June this year so
lets hope they have had a change of heart
#2215
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SXE
Programs: QF LTG, VA Gold, BA Gold, HH, SFSC
Posts: 502
Back to another sub-thread on this thread, has anyone received a replacement physical card from the July 8th year-end onwards? I tried a re-order from ba.com but just got Pending and Fulfilled again - no Dispatched. The only comms I am getting from BA at the moment is them trying to get me to fly to places which will be probably closed off by the time of departure!
Both dispatched, but so far only the GGL card has turned up.
#2217
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
Had been thinking the same, the move from Hilton is great, but I imagine could backfire on them if things suddenly pick up. BA may be worried about that. My collection year ends in April and I have yet to fly this collection year because of cancellations, COVID related personal situation etc, I do hope that BA do something.
A lot of us July year ends are banking on BA doing something as we are already well into our 25% reduced target collection year to renew. I'd happily trade my July year end concessions from BA for what the April year ends received.
#2218
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Accor Live Limitless Gold, Hilton Honours Gold, Avis Preferred Plus
Posts: 1,806
But if your collection year ends next April, it doesn't matter that you haven't flown this collection year. The April year ends benefitted the most from BA's previous concessions, a 30% reduction in target for their 8 April 2020 collection year end and then an extension of status to 8 April 2022, with realistically, very little impact to flying options from Covid by 8 April 2020. You also have another 25% reduction in target from 9 April 2021 to renew at 8 April 2022.
A lot of us July year ends are banking on BA doing something as we are already well into our 25% reduced target collection year to renew. I'd happily trade my July year end concessions from BA for what the April year ends received.
A lot of us July year ends are banking on BA doing something as we are already well into our 25% reduced target collection year to renew. I'd happily trade my July year end concessions from BA for what the April year ends received.
#2219
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
I'm equally pessimistic about doing any real flying before my 2021 membership year end, and I'd be pleasantly surprised if there are anything close to normal opportunities to do so during the 2021-22 membership year. If you can't fly, and you're not booking, status is pretty much irrelevant.
#2220
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
I think that BA should waive the 2/4 BA segment requirement for the 12 month extension period ( dark blue area on the table in the WIKI ) for non-UK based members.
I have 2 BA flights that were cancelled and 2 BA flights for next year so I guess that my achievement to Gold status would be honored, I will be achieving 1125 TP's on other airlines.
As a September Tier year, start/end of the COVID related restrictions around the world remains; the UK does not build a new travel corridor with Turkey until that day or if the US presidential proclamation bans me to transfer at LHR for USA flights, I probably wouldn't fly BA this year. Maybe a trip to Mexico, Brasil, or the Caribbean with BA but that seems unlikely.
I have 2 BA flights that were cancelled and 2 BA flights for next year so I guess that my achievement to Gold status would be honored, I will be achieving 1125 TP's on other airlines.
As a September Tier year, start/end of the COVID related restrictions around the world remains; the UK does not build a new travel corridor with Turkey until that day or if the US presidential proclamation bans me to transfer at LHR for USA flights, I probably wouldn't fly BA this year. Maybe a trip to Mexico, Brasil, or the Caribbean with BA but that seems unlikely.