FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
Apr 21, 2022, 11:08 am
#4621
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond *, IHG, Couples Romance Rewards
Posts: 2,350
No email but card expiry just got extended to Sep 2023. Also wondering if achieving GGL before August will then magic me an extra year...
Apr 21, 2022, 11:09 am
#4622
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 579
Also not had any email from them.
Again comfortably requalified under the 25% targets, helped in no small measure by my employers overpriced travel agents economy fares vs a very good deal direct with RJ for a J class ticket (RJ business actually a few pounds cheaper than agents economy quote for same flight).
I don't regret any travel I did, all was for work or necessary family visits, and I had an extra month of knowing my status was safe prior to this announcement.
Again comfortably requalified under the 25% targets, helped in no small measure by my employers overpriced travel agents economy fares vs a very good deal direct with RJ for a J class ticket (RJ business actually a few pounds cheaper than agents economy quote for same flight).
I don't regret any travel I did, all was for work or necessary family visits, and I had an extra month of knowing my status was safe prior to this announcement.
Apr 21, 2022, 11:10 am
#4623
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
Apr 21, 2022, 11:16 am
#4624
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: London. Or a plane.
Programs: "Only" 50,000 TPs until BA GGLfL
Posts: 2,774
Apr 21, 2022, 11:20 am
#4625
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: UK/Las Vegas
Programs: BA Gold (GGL/CCR)
Posts: 15,922
Apr 21, 2022, 11:20 am
#4626
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 5,898
its basically this from the FAQ
The Tier Status extensions apply to Members that have not earned enough Tier Points by their Tier Point Collection Year end date to retain their status for the following year only. If you have already earned enough Tier Points to renew your Tier status, your Tier will not be automatically extended for an additional 12 months.
Tiers and benefits | Executive Club | British Airways
Apr 21, 2022, 11:21 am
#4627
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: London. Or a plane.
Programs: "Only" 50,000 TPs until BA GGLfL
Posts: 2,774
if all you are doing is TP runs then this was always a risk, the alternate was not travelling and no extension being offered. You rolled the dice
if you had some holidays, business travel etc and this was flying you would have done anyway its not really a problem either way
i can see a case for BA extending and saying that a % of the points accumulated would rollover but they have chosen not to do that
But it was in BAs interest to have you fly, if they had forewarned us we were being extened well in advance and many of us had chosen not to fly then that would not have helped their coffers and I suspect at the moment every penny really counts
if you had some holidays, business travel etc and this was flying you would have done anyway its not really a problem either way
i can see a case for BA extending and saying that a % of the points accumulated would rollover but they have chosen not to do that
But it was in BAs interest to have you fly, if they had forewarned us we were being extened well in advance and many of us had chosen not to fly then that would not have helped their coffers and I suspect at the moment every penny really counts
There are GGLs who haven't touched an airplane since Feb 2020 who will still be GGL until Dec 2023 - meanwhile, the wait times on the GGL phone number are increasing. By not having a clearout of legacy status holders, BA are having those of us who do travel extensively after covid subsidise perks for those who no longer do - strikes me as rewarding the wrong cohort.
Apr 21, 2022, 11:28 am
#4628
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 5,898
All of my travel was necessary, but choosing to do all of it on paid tickets (rather than avios) or flying on BA rather than a competitor was down to Tier Points.
There are GGLs who haven't touched an airplane since Feb 2020 who will still be GGL until Dec 2023 - meanwhile, the wait times on the GGL phone number are increasing. By not having a clearout of legacy status holders, BA are having those of us who do travel extensively after covid subsidise perks for those who no longer do - strikes me as rewarding the wrong cohort.
There are GGLs who haven't touched an airplane since Feb 2020 who will still be GGL until Dec 2023 - meanwhile, the wait times on the GGL phone number are increasing. By not having a clearout of legacy status holders, BA are having those of us who do travel extensively after covid subsidise perks for those who no longer do - strikes me as rewarding the wrong cohort.
There are other equally valid opinions
BA has looked at its business and decided, for now, this is the approach it wants to take as it feels it is best for their business.
No matter what approach they chose there are some who would have been upset
Apr 21, 2022, 11:33 am
#4629
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: London. Or a plane.
Programs: "Only" 50,000 TPs until BA GGLfL
Posts: 2,774
Many people who travelled a lot pre-covid will not be travelling as much in future for many possible reasons: lifestyle choice/increased use of virtual meetings/changed role/changed working hours or location. I'm just not sure why having travelled a lot 4 years ago should qualify you to use GGL facilities today (GGLfL excepted).
I'd love to get the hours I spend in aircraft / airports back to do other things, so I'm a touch jealous that BA is letting people have their cake and eat it (not really do much flying, but have access to all the perks which many of us devote lots of hours and much revenue to BA to get access to)
Apr 21, 2022, 11:34 am
#4630
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 5,898
Isn't that the group BA hopes to reward with the upper end of the BAEC status tiers?
Many people who travelled a lot pre-covid will not be travelling as much in future for many possible reasons: lifestyle choice/increased use of virtual meetings/changed working hours or location. I'm just not sure why having travelled a lot 4 years ago should qualify you to use GGL facilities today (GGLfL excepted).
Many people who travelled a lot pre-covid will not be travelling as much in future for many possible reasons: lifestyle choice/increased use of virtual meetings/changed working hours or location. I'm just not sure why having travelled a lot 4 years ago should qualify you to use GGL facilities today (GGLfL excepted).
if people are still not travelling it will not cost BA, will not affect the lounges or the call centres and the thinning out will happen over time
Personally I think there is a band of people who have not been able to travel so much until fairly recently but will start to see an uptick in their travel over the next 12 months
I do think there will be a thinning of people who have status over 2023
Apr 21, 2022, 11:35 am
#4631
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Global Again
Programs: OWS IHG Diamond + Accor Plat, Scandic Top Level
Posts: 762
August TP year end for me, last year just made 450TP's via work to retain status for the 11th year (never had a sniff of gold).
This year I am at 340TP's and have a couple of low TP ET returns again via work and was looking to upgrade one or two and reach 450TP's.
Yesterday just before the email arrived I was about to pull the trigger to upgrade LHR-DUS ET to CE, no need now.
Ta BA..
This year I am at 340TP's and have a couple of low TP ET returns again via work and was looking to upgrade one or two and reach 450TP's.
Yesterday just before the email arrived I was about to pull the trigger to upgrade LHR-DUS ET to CE, no need now.
Ta BA..
Apr 21, 2022, 12:07 pm
#4632
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
There are GGLs who haven't touched an airplane since Feb 2020 who will still be GGL until Dec 2023 - meanwhile, the wait times on the GGL phone number are increasing. By not having a clearout of legacy status holders, BA are having those of us who do travel extensively after covid subsidise perks for those who no longer do - strikes me as rewarding the wrong cohort.
Apr 21, 2022, 1:36 pm
#4633
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: BA GGL & GfL, AA LTP, Marriott (sigh) Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,232
either way the call center support needs to be addressed.
while i have not received an email despite being a GGL with a sept end date, i find the wording sloppy regarding the reduced threshold thru to dec 31 as i have 2700tp booked for sept 8- dec 31 with the expectation it would apply, and it would be great to drop one or two of those trips if i dont feel like it when the time comes.
but i guess i look at my current year sitting on 5300tp with 4.5mos to go as getting me closer to lifetime gold.
Apr 21, 2022, 1:38 pm
#4635
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: BA GGL & GfL, AA LTP, Marriott (sigh) Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,232
besides i have bigger fish to fry getting my 40tp for an iberia flight credited 😂😂😂