FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
#4351
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
Hi, my TP collection year ends May 22 but card expiry is 30 June 23.
I need 235 more TP to retain silver
I'm looking at booking a BC holiday to IST in October. It looks like this is 80 TP each way.
Before I commit, am I right in thinking I'll get 320 TP for this as it's double for holidays?
Will this extend my silver? If so, until???
I've read so much but my mind is blown and would appreciate any expert advice please!
I need 235 more TP to retain silver
I'm looking at booking a BC holiday to IST in October. It looks like this is 80 TP each way.
Before I commit, am I right in thinking I'll get 320 TP for this as it's double for holidays?
Will this extend my silver? If so, until???
I've read so much but my mind is blown and would appreciate any expert advice please!
But on its own it won't extend your Silver by a single day.
If you have 235TP now, then those are lost come your new collection year, starting May 9th. That doesn't matter in itself because your Status is protected for the coming year.
But from May 9th, you have 2 possible targets:
- 450 TP by end of 2022
- 600 TP by May 8th 2023.
If you can *add* to the 320 TP earned in October to reach those targets, then you will retain Silver until June 30th 2024.
If you cannot reach those targets, your Silver will end on June 2023.
(All the above assumes no further extensions etc)
#4352
Join Date: Jan 2022
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 1,468
Just to add to the above, you’ve already got silver til June 2023. You have until Dec 31, 2022 to meet the reduced threshold which if you hit, you’ll get extended silver membership to end June 2024. BUT, any points you earn between now and May 8, 2022 won’t help you (unless you can get to gold) and your balance goes back to 0 after May 8. So if you want to take advantage of the reduced threshold, you’ll need to get 450 pts between May 8 and Dec 31, 2022.
#4353
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 5,902
you keep the perks july 2023 to june 2024 if
1/ between may9 2022 and 31 dec 2022 you collect 450 tp and have 4 qualifying flights
-- OR ---
2/ between may 9th 2022 and may 8th 2023 you collect 600 tp and have 4 qualifying flights
#4354
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
Programs: AF/KL Plat, BA Gold, A3 Gold, IHG Diamond, MR Gold, HH Diamond, ALL Platinum
Posts: 1,044
I just checked my GF Gold account and she has now 130 TP (with 2 eligible segments) with July 8th as reset date. If there was no further complimentary status extension, and if she had 4 eligible segments she would have soft landed to Silver. But with only 2 eligible segments, will she drop to Silver or to Bronze ? Just wondering if we would need to plan a quick round trip to LHR some time in June or not...:-/
#4355
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
As I understand it, you "soft land" one level down even if you don't take a single flight.
Just for completeness, here is where it is covered in the Sticky guide: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33863721-post4.html
#4356
Join Date: May 2016
Location: EDI
Programs: Was BA GGL but no longer travelling
Posts: 583
The exception is if you are GGL, as that's not really a tier in its own right. I am GGL but will be dropping to Silver if there's no extension.
#4357
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: In between BRU, AMS, DUS and LUX...
Programs: AF/KL Plat, BA Gold, A3 Gold, IHG Diamond, MR Gold, HH Diamond, ALL Platinum
Posts: 1,044
Silver.
As I understand it, you "soft land" one level down even if you don't take a single flight.
Just for completeness, here is where it is covered in the Sticky guide: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33863721-post4.html
As I understand it, you "soft land" one level down even if you don't take a single flight.
Just for completeness, here is where it is covered in the Sticky guide: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/33863721-post4.html
Yes. "Soft landing" is really a misnomer; even if you don't fly at all in the collection year, you will only drop to a tier below your current tier.
The exception is if you are GGL, as that's not really a tier in its own right. I am GGL but will be dropping to Silver if there's no extension.
The exception is if you are GGL, as that's not really a tier in its own right. I am GGL but will be dropping to Silver if there's no extension.
#4358
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL, OZ, AC, AS, AA, BA, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 19,896
I find BA's status program to be pretty confusing. I'm currently a BA Silver. My TP collection year ends on May 8, 2022. The card expiry is on June 30, 2023.
My goal is to attain BA Gold by December 31, 2022. I'm assuming the lower qualification threshold will be in place until December 31, 2022. So what happens for any flights that I take from now until the final minute of May 8, 2022? I'm assuming BA uses GMT for time? What happens for any flights that I take between May 9, 2022, and December 31, 2022?
Thank you!
My goal is to attain BA Gold by December 31, 2022. I'm assuming the lower qualification threshold will be in place until December 31, 2022. So what happens for any flights that I take from now until the final minute of May 8, 2022? I'm assuming BA uses GMT for time? What happens for any flights that I take between May 9, 2022, and December 31, 2022?
Thank you!
#4360
Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club, easyJet and Ryanair
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: UK/Las Vegas
Programs: BA Gold (GGL/CCR)
Posts: 15,922
I find BA's status program to be pretty confusing. I'm currently a BA Silver. My TP collection year ends on May 8, 2022. The card expiry is on June 30, 2023.
My goal is to attain BA Gold by December 31, 2022. I'm assuming the lower qualification threshold will be in place until December 31, 2022. So what happens for any flights that I take from now until the final minute of May 8, 2022? I'm assuming BA uses GMT for time? What happens for any flights that I take between May 9, 2022, and December 31, 2022?
Thank you!
My goal is to attain BA Gold by December 31, 2022. I'm assuming the lower qualification threshold will be in place until December 31, 2022. So what happens for any flights that I take from now until the final minute of May 8, 2022? I'm assuming BA uses GMT for time? What happens for any flights that I take between May 9, 2022, and December 31, 2022?
Thank you!
#4361
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL, OZ, AC, AS, AA, BA, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 19,896
I'm assuming the lower qualification threshold will last until December 31, 2022?
So timezone doesn't matter? End of May 8, 2022 regardless of timezone?
How does my card expiry date affect my status qualification?
#4362
Join Date: Jan 2022
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 1,468
Drop off means your TP balance goes to 0 on May 9th. So unless you get enough points to get to gold between now and May 8th, they are pretty useless; whether you get 0 points or 1000 points by May 8th 2022, you'll still be silver. From May 9th, you have until Dec 31 2022 to get 1125 TPs to get to gold. If you don't quite make it by year end, you'll need the full 1500 by May 8th 2023. I wouldn't stress too much about time zones. It seems that BA usually will give you a grace period of a couple of weeks after your TP collection year to get those last few points. Never tried it, but seems to be generally accepted that it works.
#4363
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Mexico
Programs: BAEC Gold / Marriott Platinum
Posts: 3,543
Drop off means your TP balance goes to 0 on May 9th. So unless you get enough points to get to gold between now and May 8th, they are pretty useless; whether you get 0 points or 1000 points by May 8th 2022, you'll still be silver. From May 9th, you have until Dec 31 2022 to get 1125 TPs to get to gold. If you don't quite make it by year end, you'll need the full 1500 by May 8th 2023. I wouldn't stress too much about time zones. It seems that BA usually will give you a grace period of a couple of weeks after your TP collection year to get those last few points. Never tried it, but seems to be generally accepted that it works.
#4364
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
Local timezone is what matters when determining the date. Suppose there were a flight leaving San Francisco at 10pm local on May 8th. That would be 6am, May 9th in the UK. But it's the local time that counts so it would be credited to your previous year, i.e. the one ending on May 8th.
Oh and to add, it's scheduled time that matters. If that hypothetical flight was delayed 3 hours in departure it would still credit to the previous year.
It doesn't directly. Your card expiry is always on the last day of the month following a collection year end - usually your current year[1], but with extensions for many people that is not the case.
If your card expiry is more than 1 month and a few weeks ahead, then that could mean it has been extended for some reason, which is what has happened to yours. In this case, you don't need to bother with attaining points to requalify until you are into the collection year that ends the month before card expiry.
[1] It used to be it was pushed out 1 year when you went up a tier, not sure if that still applies given the inequity it caused!
Last edited by BertieBadger; Mar 24, 2022 at 8:21 am Reason: Edit for clarity about expiry more than 1 year
#4365
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Correct, unless you could fly enough to hit Gold by May 8th
Also correct
Local timezone is what matters when determining the date. Suppose there were a flight leaving San Francisco at 10pm local on May 8th. That would be 6am, May 9th in the UK. But it's the local time that counts so it would be credited to your previous year, i.e. the one ending on May 8th.
Oh and to add, it's scheduled time that matters. If that hypothetical flight was delayed 3 hours in departure it would still credit to the previous year.
It doesn't directly. Your card expiry is always on the last day of the month following a collection year end - usually your current year[1], but with extensions for many people that is not the case.
If your card expiry is more than 1 month and a few weeks ahead, then that could mean it has been extended for some reason, which is what has happened to yours. In this case, you don't need to bother with attaining points to requalify until you are into the collection year that ends the month before card expiry.
[1] It used to be it was pushed out 1 year when you went up a tier, not sure if that still applies given the inequity it caused!
Also correct
Local timezone is what matters when determining the date. Suppose there were a flight leaving San Francisco at 10pm local on May 8th. That would be 6am, May 9th in the UK. But it's the local time that counts so it would be credited to your previous year, i.e. the one ending on May 8th.
Oh and to add, it's scheduled time that matters. If that hypothetical flight was delayed 3 hours in departure it would still credit to the previous year.
It doesn't directly. Your card expiry is always on the last day of the month following a collection year end - usually your current year[1], but with extensions for many people that is not the case.
If your card expiry is more than 1 month and a few weeks ahead, then that could mean it has been extended for some reason, which is what has happened to yours. In this case, you don't need to bother with attaining points to requalify until you are into the collection year that ends the month before card expiry.
[1] It used to be it was pushed out 1 year when you went up a tier, not sure if that still applies given the inequity it caused!