FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
#2253
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 1,626
My reset date is the same and it is highly unlikely I will fly a significant amount before then. I assume most are in a similar position and have assumed that status will get rolled over again.
#2254
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
No travel for me before Xmas, so 6 months into my TP year I'll still be on 0TP, with no prospect of getting anywhere close to renewing GGL and CCR card by 8 July.
As each month goes by, retaining BA status and remaining loyal becomes less of an issue to me and other options are looked at.
It's clearly a hugely difficult time for the airline but I've still received nothing from BA that I hadn't earned already. Even the letter acknowledges that when it says I've retained GGL because of my current balance!
Last edited by gcuk; Nov 24, 2020 at 8:09 am
#2255
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Vienna
Programs: BAEC Gold, TK E+, LH Sen, Accor Plat, Base level: AF, AS, DL, Hilton, IHG
Posts: 194
I haven't looked at this thread in ages, as I am another of the "requalified in any case before the extension announcement" and this extension offer has given me no additional benefit. I just had a look to see if anything had changed over the last few months for people that had requalified anyway (no). I'm not holding out for any concession from BA next year either.
Similarly to the recent posters, given the travel outlook, the fact that the countries I travel to are all likely to remain with external border entry restrictions and a continuing corporate travel ban, the chance of me getting even the reduced points for requalification next year are nil-to-negligible.
I'm not holding out for any concession from BA next year either.
But as always, it is of some comfort to read I am not the only one :-)
Shuttle
Similarly to the recent posters, given the travel outlook, the fact that the countries I travel to are all likely to remain with external border entry restrictions and a continuing corporate travel ban, the chance of me getting even the reduced points for requalification next year are nil-to-negligible.
I'm not holding out for any concession from BA next year either.
But as always, it is of some comfort to read I am not the only one :-)
Shuttle
#2256
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: TPA/ABZ
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,248
Unless something changes - and I hope it does for your sake and others in the same boat - you are being right royally screwed by this.
#2257
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 2,369
I haven't looked at this thread in ages, as I am another of the "requalified in any case before the extension announcement" and this extension offer has given me no additional benefit. I just had a look to see if anything had changed over the last few months for people that had requalified anyway (no). I'm not holding out for any concession from BA next year either.
Similarly to the recent posters, given the travel outlook, the fact that the countries I travel to are all likely to remain with external border entry restrictions and a continuing corporate travel ban, the chance of me getting even the reduced points for requalification next year are nil-to-negligible.
I'm not holding out for any concession from BA next year either.
But as always, it is of some comfort to read I am not the only one :-)
Shuttle
Similarly to the recent posters, given the travel outlook, the fact that the countries I travel to are all likely to remain with external border entry restrictions and a continuing corporate travel ban, the chance of me getting even the reduced points for requalification next year are nil-to-negligible.
I'm not holding out for any concession from BA next year either.
But as always, it is of some comfort to read I am not the only one :-)
Shuttle
#2258
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: London
Programs: Executive Club - Gold, HH - Gold, Marriott - Gold
Posts: 372
Can someone explain what my situation is please?
My date was 8 June 2020 - I reached the standard threshold anyway for renewed until June 2021 - but like others here there is no way I am going to get even 1,125TP by June next year - assuming vaccines and everything is sort of back to normal by April.
My card expiry date is 31 July 2022 - Does this mean I will soft land to Silver in June next year? Or stay Gold for another year?
My date was 8 June 2020 - I reached the standard threshold anyway for renewed until June 2021 - but like others here there is no way I am going to get even 1,125TP by June next year - assuming vaccines and everything is sort of back to normal by April.
My card expiry date is 31 July 2022 - Does this mean I will soft land to Silver in June next year? Or stay Gold for another year?
#2259
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
Can someone explain what my situation is please?
My date was 8 June 2020 - I reached the standard threshold anyway for renewed until June 2021 - but like others here there is no way I am going to get even 1,125TP by June next year - assuming vaccines and everything is sort of back to normal by April.
My card expiry date is 31 July 2022 - Does this mean I will soft land to Silver in June next year? Or stay Gold for another year?
My date was 8 June 2020 - I reached the standard threshold anyway for renewed until June 2021 - but like others here there is no way I am going to get even 1,125TP by June next year - assuming vaccines and everything is sort of back to normal by April.
My card expiry date is 31 July 2022 - Does this mean I will soft land to Silver in June next year? Or stay Gold for another year?
To extend your Gold beyond July 31 2022, you need to earn 1125 TP between June 9th 2021 and June 8th 2022 inclusive.
June members do well under BA's policies here, so unlike many above, you've been lucky.
#2260
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA, Hilton
Posts: 2,091
Urgh, that opening sentence in the letter! It's the sort of claim you'd expect from a populist politician, shamelessly and openly contrary to the obvious reality of the situation. You'd almost suspect someone was trolling members
#2261
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
Can someone explain what my situation is please?
My date was 8 June 2020 - I reached the standard threshold anyway for renewed until June 2021 - but like others here there is no way I am going to get even 1,125TP by June next year - assuming vaccines and everything is sort of back to normal by April.
My card expiry date is 31 July 2022 - Does this mean I will soft land to Silver in June next year? Or stay Gold for another year?
My date was 8 June 2020 - I reached the standard threshold anyway for renewed until June 2021 - but like others here there is no way I am going to get even 1,125TP by June next year - assuming vaccines and everything is sort of back to normal by April.
My card expiry date is 31 July 2022 - Does this mean I will soft land to Silver in June next year? Or stay Gold for another year?
#2262
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: London
Programs: Mucci. Nothing else matters.
Posts: 38,644
...
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After promising to listen and learn (though not, I note, to act or to fix), you add: “Our passion for the safety of our customers and our people will be at the core of everything we do.” If I were you, I’d keep passion as far away from safety as you can. When you are in a metal box hurtling through the air at 30,000 feet, passionate people are a liability: what is needed instead are unexcitable types who thrive on dull precision. To achieve your goal, you pledge: “My co-workers and I will work each and every day.” Again, I urge you to do nothing of the sort. If you work each and every day, you’ll go nuts and accidents will happen. I suggest you all take regular and frequent breaks. ...
#2263
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
Dear members,
If we look at an objective perspective all members whose tier year starts/ends between January and June are at the moment safe.
For those who have a tier year that starts/ends between July and December; it's obvious that BA needs to re-consider their extension policy or their reduced thresholds.
We are currently in an era where vaccines are tested and things could rapidly change; BA still hasn't adjusted their schedule for 10 January and onwards, plus most of the summer seasonal routes have not been adjusted for S21 yet. Nobody yet knows how travel would continue after February 2021 and it's really hard to make a prediction at this time. We all know that BA waited until June 2020 to announce the reduced thresholds and a +12 month extension while other airlines did it in March or April 2020.
So my takeaway is that; ( these are opinions based than confirmed facts )
- BA might consider an extension or another reduction in thresholds at a later stage ( most likely during Spring 2021 ) depending on how travel evolves.
- BA was not the first carrier to implement the status extension at the first point so I wouldn't expect BA to make their final decision just because airline X has extended their member's status. BA might wait until a later stage.
- If BA wants to be fair to everyone, they would also consider those who've flown this year during these difficult times and met the reduced thresholds ( especially those who paid for CW and F during the cost-cutting period because of their loyalty ).
If we look at an objective perspective all members whose tier year starts/ends between January and June are at the moment safe.
For those who have a tier year that starts/ends between July and December; it's obvious that BA needs to re-consider their extension policy or their reduced thresholds.
We are currently in an era where vaccines are tested and things could rapidly change; BA still hasn't adjusted their schedule for 10 January and onwards, plus most of the summer seasonal routes have not been adjusted for S21 yet. Nobody yet knows how travel would continue after February 2021 and it's really hard to make a prediction at this time. We all know that BA waited until June 2020 to announce the reduced thresholds and a +12 month extension while other airlines did it in March or April 2020.
So my takeaway is that; ( these are opinions based than confirmed facts )
- BA might consider an extension or another reduction in thresholds at a later stage ( most likely during Spring 2021 ) depending on how travel evolves.
- BA was not the first carrier to implement the status extension at the first point so I wouldn't expect BA to make their final decision just because airline X has extended their member's status. BA might wait until a later stage.
- If BA wants to be fair to everyone, they would also consider those who've flown this year during these difficult times and met the reduced thresholds ( especially those who paid for CW and F during the cost-cutting period because of their loyalty ).
#2264
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 579
September end here, zero TPs and very likey my main destination countries won't allow me in without quarantine until there is a vaccine. Assuming I can travel from May onwards (last 40% of my year), I could probably just get to 750TPs in the final 30% of my year based on planned work and personal travel (and assuming certain destinations open up), but that is closer to 50% of Gold renewal threshold, and a long way off 75%.
Given the roll out of the vaccine will impact people at different rates, it is difficult to see how BA will deal with this in terms of personal willingness to travel and destination allowing travel without quarantine, plus vs timing of vacinations. Those who can travel freely first will be those in older age groups, while those of us travelling for work will mainly be the last...!
Just hope there is another extension, or at least a further threshold reduction....
Or make it conditional upon one or two BA sectors (as Qantas seems to be doing), but even that will only work for those renewing in the final third of the year.
I guess we will need to see what the picture is looking like in early 2021...
Given the roll out of the vaccine will impact people at different rates, it is difficult to see how BA will deal with this in terms of personal willingness to travel and destination allowing travel without quarantine, plus vs timing of vacinations. Those who can travel freely first will be those in older age groups, while those of us travelling for work will mainly be the last...!
Just hope there is another extension, or at least a further threshold reduction....
Or make it conditional upon one or two BA sectors (as Qantas seems to be doing), but even that will only work for those renewing in the final third of the year.
I guess we will need to see what the picture is looking like in early 2021...
#2265
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 579
If I had felt safe and been allowed to travel, I would have done. This does not make me less loyal than those with different risk perceptions and allowances than me.