May 28, 2020, 8:02 am
Last edit by: BAeuro
New Routes
Heathrow - Antalya
Heathrow - Antigua
Heathrow - Barbados
Heathrow - Bermuda
Heathrow - Cancun (Now Suspended)
Heathrow - Cluj-Napoca (Cancelled before launch)
Heathrow - Gdańsk (Cancelled before launch)
Heathrow - Lahore
Heathrow - Malé
Heathrow - Mauritius
Heathrow - Menorca (Now Suspended)
Heathrow - Newquay
Heathrow - Nuremberg (begins 27th March 2022)
Heathrow - Orlando
Heathrow - Perugia (begins 27th June 2022)
Heathrow - Ponta Delgada (begins 2nd July 2022)
Heathrow - Portland (begins 3rd June 2022)
Heathrow - Riga (Cancelled before launch)
Heathrow - Saint Lucia
Heathrow - São Paulo - Buenos Aires (begins 9th December 2021 - New Combined Route)
Heathrow - Terceira (begins 10th July 2022)
Heathrow - Wroclaw (Cancelled before launch)
Gatwick - Doha
Gatwick - Islamabad (begins 27th March 2022 - Switching from LHR)
Gatwick - Manchester (begins 27 March 2022)
Gatwick - Montego Bay
London City - Barcelona (begins 19th June 2022)
London City - Belfast City
London City - Gibraltar (Now Suspended)
London City - Guernsey
London City - Jersey
London City - Luxembourg (begins 27th March 2022)
London City - Milan Malpensa (begins 27th March 2022)
London City - Salzburg (begins Feb 2022)
London City - San Sebastián (begins 8th July 2022)
London City - Thessaloniki (begins 18th June 2022)
Manchester - Faro (Now Suspended)
Manchester - Porto (Now Suspended)
Newcastle - Faro (Now Suspended)
Edinburgh - Faro (Now Suspended)
Edinburgh - Guernsey
Belfast City - Birmingham
Belfast City - Exeter
Belfast City - Glasgow
Belfast City - Leeds/Bradford
Belfast City - London City
Belfast City - Newquay
Southampton - Alicante
Southampton - Bergerac
Southampton - Berlin
Southampton - Chambery (begins 18th December 2021)
Southampton - Edinburgh
Southampton - Faro
Southampton - Florence (begins 30th April 2022)
Southampton - Ibiza
Southampton - Limoges (begins 14th May 2022)
Southampton - Malaga
Southampton - Mykonos
Southampton - Nice (begins 14th May 2022)
Southampton - Palma de Mallorca
Southampton - Salzburg (begins 11th December 2021)
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Terminated Routes
Heathrow - Abu Dhabi
Heathrow - Beirut
Heathrow - Buenos Aires (Direct Service)
Heathrow - Calgary
Heathrow - Charleston
Heathrow - Dammam (via Bahrain)
Heathrow - Doha
Heathrow - Durban
Heathrow - Helsinki - Specific thread
Heathrow - Islamabad (ends 9th December 2021 - Switching to LGW)
Heathrow - Jeddah (short adhoc operation in July over Hajj)
Heathrow - Kuala Lumpur
Heathrow - Leeds Bradford - Specific thread
Heathrow - Montpellier
Heathrow - Moscow SVO - Specific thread
Heathrow - Muscat
Heathrow - Osaka
Heathrow - Podgorica
Heathrow - Seoul
Heathrow - Seychelles
Gatwick - Almeria
Gatwick - Bermuda
Gatwick - Bilbao
Gatwick - Cape Town
Gatwick - Cologne
Gatwick - Edinburgh
Gatwick - Genoa
Gatwick - Las Vegas
Gatwick - Lima
Gatwick - Malé
Gatwick - Milan Bergamo
Gatwick - Nuremberg
Gatwick - Toronto
Gatwick - Vienna
London City - Gibraltar
London City - Isle of Man
London City - Manchester
London City - Milan Linate
London City - Munich
London City - New York JFK (A318 retirement)
London City - Rome
London City - Venice
Stansted - Berlin
Stansted - Chambery
Stansted - Faro
Stansted - Florence
Stansted - Ibiza
Stansted - Malaga
Stansted - Mykonos
Stansted - Palma de Mallorca
Manchester - Alicante
Manchester - Faro
Manchester - Florence
Manchester - Ibiza
Manchester - Malaga
Manchester - Mykonos
Manchester - Nice
Manchester - Palma de Mallorca
Newcastle - Faro
Edinburgh - Faro
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Routes Switching from Long Haul to Short Haul
Heathrow - Amman
Heathrow - Cairo
Heathrow - Moscow DME
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Temporary Suspensions for W21
Heathrow - Billund
Heathrow - Pisa
Heathrow - San Jose, CA
Heathrow - Sydney
Gatwick - Alicante
Gatwick - Dubrovnik
London City - Nice
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NB: All LGW Short-Haul services will depart from LHR up to and including 26 March 2022 (excluding LGW-GLA/MAN)
Heathrow - Antalya
Heathrow - Antigua
Heathrow - Barbados
Heathrow - Bermuda
Heathrow - Lahore
Heathrow - Malé
Heathrow - Mauritius
Heathrow - Newquay
Heathrow - Nuremberg (begins 27th March 2022)
Heathrow - Orlando
Heathrow - Perugia (begins 27th June 2022)
Heathrow - Ponta Delgada (begins 2nd July 2022)
Heathrow - Portland (begins 3rd June 2022)
Heathrow - Saint Lucia
Heathrow - São Paulo - Buenos Aires (begins 9th December 2021 - New Combined Route)
Heathrow - Terceira (begins 10th July 2022)
Gatwick - Doha
Gatwick - Islamabad (begins 27th March 2022 - Switching from LHR)
Gatwick - Manchester (begins 27 March 2022)
Gatwick - Montego Bay
London City - Barcelona (begins 19th June 2022)
London City - Belfast City
London City - Guernsey
London City - Jersey
London City - Luxembourg (begins 27th March 2022)
London City - Milan Malpensa (begins 27th March 2022)
London City - Salzburg (begins Feb 2022)
London City - San Sebastián (begins 8th July 2022)
London City - Thessaloniki (begins 18th June 2022)
Edinburgh - Guernsey
Belfast City - Birmingham
Belfast City - Exeter
Belfast City - Glasgow
Belfast City - Leeds/Bradford
Belfast City - London City
Belfast City - Newquay
Southampton - Alicante
Southampton - Bergerac
Southampton - Berlin
Southampton - Chambery (begins 18th December 2021)
Southampton - Edinburgh
Southampton - Faro
Southampton - Florence (begins 30th April 2022)
Southampton - Ibiza
Southampton - Limoges (begins 14th May 2022)
Southampton - Malaga
Southampton - Mykonos
Southampton - Nice (begins 14th May 2022)
Southampton - Palma de Mallorca
Southampton - Salzburg (begins 11th December 2021)
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Terminated Routes
Heathrow - Abu Dhabi
Heathrow - Beirut
Heathrow - Buenos Aires (Direct Service)
Heathrow - Calgary
Heathrow - Charleston
Heathrow - Dammam (via Bahrain)
Heathrow - Doha
Heathrow - Durban
Heathrow - Helsinki - Specific thread
Heathrow - Islamabad (ends 9th December 2021 - Switching to LGW)
Heathrow - Jeddah (short adhoc operation in July over Hajj)
Heathrow - Kuala Lumpur
Heathrow - Leeds Bradford - Specific thread
Heathrow - Montpellier
Heathrow - Moscow SVO - Specific thread
Heathrow - Muscat
Heathrow - Osaka
Heathrow - Podgorica
Heathrow - Seoul
Heathrow - Seychelles
Gatwick - Almeria
Gatwick - Bermuda
Gatwick - Bilbao
Gatwick - Cape Town
Gatwick - Cologne
Gatwick - Edinburgh
Gatwick - Genoa
Gatwick - Las Vegas
Gatwick - Lima
Gatwick - Malé
Gatwick - Milan Bergamo
Gatwick - Nuremberg
Gatwick - Toronto
Gatwick - Vienna
London City - Gibraltar
London City - Isle of Man
London City - Manchester
London City - Milan Linate
London City - Munich
London City - New York JFK (A318 retirement)
London City - Rome
London City - Venice
Stansted - Berlin
Stansted - Chambery
Stansted - Faro
Stansted - Florence
Stansted - Ibiza
Stansted - Malaga
Stansted - Mykonos
Stansted - Palma de Mallorca
Manchester - Alicante
Manchester - Faro
Manchester - Florence
Manchester - Ibiza
Manchester - Malaga
Manchester - Mykonos
Manchester - Nice
Manchester - Palma de Mallorca
Newcastle - Faro
Edinburgh - Faro
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Routes Switching from Long Haul to Short Haul
Heathrow - Amman
Heathrow - Cairo
Heathrow - Moscow DME
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Temporary Suspensions for W21
Heathrow - Billund
Heathrow - Pisa
Heathrow - San Jose, CA
Heathrow - Sydney
Gatwick - Alicante
Gatwick - Dubrovnik
London City - Nice
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NB: All LGW Short-Haul services will depart from LHR up to and including 26 March 2022 (excluding LGW-GLA/MAN)
COVID-19 BA Suspended Routes, Changes in The BA Network, Speculation & Discussion
Jul 31, 2021, 3:42 pm
#707
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
Antalya is pushed back to start at 23 August 2021.
Presumably after this weeks green/amber/red list update, if Turkey remains red, this route would be totally axed for the remainder of the summer season.
Presumably after this weeks green/amber/red list update, if Turkey remains red, this route would be totally axed for the remainder of the summer season.
Aug 1, 2021, 11:20 am
#708
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
Preliminary W21 changes
According to the preliminary LHR departures page for W21, it seems WAW is gaining a new night stop.
One of the 2 LCA day flights will also switch to a night stop.
Marseille is set to lose its nightstop.
*Of course these are not confirmed and subject to change*
One of the 2 LCA day flights will also switch to a night stop.
Marseille is set to lose its nightstop.
*Of course these are not confirmed and subject to change*
Aug 2, 2021, 11:16 am
#709
Moderator: American AAdvantage, Travel Safety/Security & Texas, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: AUS / GRK
Programs: AA, HHonors, Hertz
Posts: 13,485
AUS-LHR was scheduled to be flown on the A350, but has since been changed to the B787-9. Not sure if I should read anything into that...
Not sure when this happened, but it appears to be within the past week or so.
In looking at the seatmap (yea I know it isn't very accurate), the business cabin does look about 70% full on the dates I selected. Of course when the aircraft changed, it put me in random seats in the middle section, but thankfully I looked and updated to row 13 window (row 7 windows were already gone).
Not sure when this happened, but it appears to be within the past week or so.
In looking at the seatmap (yea I know it isn't very accurate), the business cabin does look about 70% full on the dates I selected. Of course when the aircraft changed, it put me in random seats in the middle section, but thankfully I looked and updated to row 13 window (row 7 windows were already gone).
Aug 2, 2021, 11:27 am
#710
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
Programs: BAEC Gold, AA PPro, Hyatt Globalist, Amex Plat
Posts: 7,040
AUS-LHR was scheduled to be flown on the A350, but has since been changed to the B787-9. Not sure if I should read anything into that...
Not sure when this happened, but it appears to be within the past week or so.
In looking at the seatmap (yea I know it isn't very accurate), the business cabin does look about 70% full on the dates I selected. Of course when the aircraft changed, it put me in random seats in the middle section, but thankfully I looked and updated to row 13 window (row 7 windows were already gone).
Not sure when this happened, but it appears to be within the past week or so.
In looking at the seatmap (yea I know it isn't very accurate), the business cabin does look about 70% full on the dates I selected. Of course when the aircraft changed, it put me in random seats in the middle section, but thankfully I looked and updated to row 13 window (row 7 windows were already gone).
Good luck!
Regards
Aug 3, 2021, 7:36 am
#711
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 4
BAs reaction to gov announcements
Hi,
I'm new here so hopefully this is the right thread to ask in, but if not, just point me in the right direction! We are booked LGW - CUN on the 15th, and are now waiting to see if Mexico stays amber. On previous occasions when destinations have turned red, how quickly after the announcements have BA acted on this to cancel/consolidate etc.?
Obviously I know there is no guarantee they will cancel, so worst case is we can get a voucher, but if they cancel and refund pretty quickly that leaves more options open to us.
I'm new here so hopefully this is the right thread to ask in, but if not, just point me in the right direction! We are booked LGW - CUN on the 15th, and are now waiting to see if Mexico stays amber. On previous occasions when destinations have turned red, how quickly after the announcements have BA acted on this to cancel/consolidate etc.?
Obviously I know there is no guarantee they will cancel, so worst case is we can get a voucher, but if they cancel and refund pretty quickly that leaves more options open to us.
Aug 4, 2021, 3:00 pm
#712
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL / GfL
Posts: 3,257
Given we don’t want to start a thread on traffic light coding - some changes to the system tonight which will mainly help BA
Red to Amber
UAE
Qatar
India
Bahrain
Moved to Red
Mexico
Georgia
La Reunion
Mayotte
Amber to Green
Germany
Austria
Slovenia
Slovakia
Latvia
Romania
Norway
Pilot37
Red to Amber
UAE
Qatar
India
Bahrain
Moved to Red
Mexico
Georgia
La Reunion
Mayotte
Amber to Green
Germany
Austria
Slovenia
Slovakia
Latvia
Romania
Norway
Pilot37
Last edited by Pilot37; Aug 4, 2021 at 3:06 pm
Aug 9, 2021, 4:44 am
#713
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 579
I MIGHT need to travel to Seoul in late November. BA appears to still be suspended at that point.
What are my options in terms of Premium Economy from London?
I thought Finnair was starting to offer this product, and was excited by this prospect, but it is not showing on their website. Their economy itinerary, even 'flex' nets me just 50 tier points return, compared to 180 PE if BA were flying direct.
Is there any way to force B or Y fare from Finnair?
Cathay is available in PE (if they are resuming flights from London), but the whole journey is 20+ hours (and I have to travel on from Seoul as well)
Do I have to choose between a long journy in PE or a shorter journy in Econ?
What argument would i then have to stand on if I fail to make a tier threshold by year end and argue 'I had to fly economy as you were not offering the route and PE was not available in the most direct alternative?'....
What are my options in terms of Premium Economy from London?
I thought Finnair was starting to offer this product, and was excited by this prospect, but it is not showing on their website. Their economy itinerary, even 'flex' nets me just 50 tier points return, compared to 180 PE if BA were flying direct.
Is there any way to force B or Y fare from Finnair?
Cathay is available in PE (if they are resuming flights from London), but the whole journey is 20+ hours (and I have to travel on from Seoul as well)
Do I have to choose between a long journy in PE or a shorter journy in Econ?
What argument would i then have to stand on if I fail to make a tier threshold by year end and argue 'I had to fly economy as you were not offering the route and PE was not available in the most direct alternative?'....
Aug 19, 2021, 9:22 pm
#716
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Arizona
Programs: BA (GGL G4L), AA (Gold), HH (Diamond); Marriott (Gold)
Posts: 3,011
Well, I really hope the flight restarts on Sept 6th and you are able to go, but I'm afraid I'm with dylanks on this one and I'm highly skeptical. Would love to be able to use that flight, but just don't trust BA right now regarding cancelling flights on shorter notice and have no interest in continually booking, then rebooking speculative flights.
Good luck!
Regards
Good luck!
Regards
Aug 21, 2021, 2:05 pm
#717
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Arizona
Programs: BA (GGL G4L), AA (Gold), HH (Diamond); Marriott (Gold)
Posts: 3,011
BA has confirmed resumption of PHX on the 31st of August: https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...phoenix-route/
Aug 21, 2021, 2:43 pm
#718
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Scotland
Programs: BA Silver, Hilton Diamond, BD Blue (RIP)
Posts: 1,981
I MIGHT need to travel to Seoul in late November. BA appears to still be suspended at that point.
What are my options in terms of Premium Economy from London?
I thought Finnair was starting to offer this product, and was excited by this prospect, but it is not showing on their website. Their economy itinerary, even 'flex' nets me just 50 tier points return, compared to 180 PE if BA were flying direct.
Is there any way to force B or Y fare from Finnair?
Cathay is available in PE (if they are resuming flights from London), but the whole journey is 20+ hours (and I have to travel on from Seoul as well)
Do I have to choose between a long journy in PE or a shorter journy in Econ?
What argument would i then have to stand on if I fail to make a tier threshold by year end and argue 'I had to fly economy as you were not offering the route and PE was not available in the most direct alternative?'....
What are my options in terms of Premium Economy from London?
I thought Finnair was starting to offer this product, and was excited by this prospect, but it is not showing on their website. Their economy itinerary, even 'flex' nets me just 50 tier points return, compared to 180 PE if BA were flying direct.
Is there any way to force B or Y fare from Finnair?
Cathay is available in PE (if they are resuming flights from London), but the whole journey is 20+ hours (and I have to travel on from Seoul as well)
Do I have to choose between a long journy in PE or a shorter journy in Econ?
What argument would i then have to stand on if I fail to make a tier threshold by year end and argue 'I had to fly economy as you were not offering the route and PE was not available in the most direct alternative?'....
Aug 21, 2021, 3:26 pm
#719
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: London
Programs: BAEC-GGL, GFL, *A Gold, Hilton Diamond , IHG Diamond/Ambassador
Posts: 244
Seoul was ‘Permanently suspended’ (read axed) around a year ago. It may come back in two or three years but don’t expect anything soon. Honestly, with the way travel is at the moment I’d be looking at a direct on Asiana or Korean Air. I know this isn’t helpful from a TP point of view but reducing the number of transit countries is seriously beneficial at this point. All it would take is for one of your transit points to go red and you could have a serious problem.