May 28, 2020, 8:02 am
Last edit by: BAeuro
New Routes
Heathrow - Antalya
Heathrow - Antigua
Heathrow - Barbados
Heathrow - Bermuda
Heathrow - Cancun (Now Suspended)
Heathrow - Cluj-Napoca (Cancelled before launch)
Heathrow - Gdańsk (Cancelled before launch)
Heathrow - Lahore
Heathrow - Malé
Heathrow - Mauritius
Heathrow - Menorca (Now Suspended)
Heathrow - Newquay
Heathrow - Nuremberg (begins 27th March 2022)
Heathrow - Orlando
Heathrow - Perugia (begins 27th June 2022)
Heathrow - Ponta Delgada (begins 2nd July 2022)
Heathrow - Portland (begins 3rd June 2022)
Heathrow - Riga (Cancelled before launch)
Heathrow - Saint Lucia
Heathrow - Săo Paulo - Buenos Aires (begins 9th December 2021 - New Combined Route)
Heathrow - Terceira (begins 10th July 2022)
Heathrow - Wroclaw (Cancelled before launch)
Gatwick - Doha
Gatwick - Islamabad (begins 27th March 2022 - Switching from LHR)
Gatwick - Manchester (begins 27 March 2022)
Gatwick - Montego Bay
London City - Barcelona (begins 19th June 2022)
London City - Belfast City
London City - Gibraltar (Now Suspended)
London City - Guernsey
London City - Jersey
London City - Luxembourg (begins 27th March 2022)
London City - Milan Malpensa (begins 27th March 2022)
London City - Salzburg (begins Feb 2022)
London City - San Sebastián (begins 8th July 2022)
London City - Thessaloniki (begins 18th June 2022)
Manchester - Faro (Now Suspended)
Manchester - Porto (Now Suspended)
Newcastle - Faro (Now Suspended)
Edinburgh - Faro (Now Suspended)
Edinburgh - Guernsey
Belfast City - Birmingham
Belfast City - Exeter
Belfast City - Glasgow
Belfast City - Leeds/Bradford
Belfast City - London City
Belfast City - Newquay
Southampton - Alicante
Southampton - Bergerac
Southampton - Berlin
Southampton - Chambery (begins 18th December 2021)
Southampton - Edinburgh
Southampton - Faro
Southampton - Florence (begins 30th April 2022)
Southampton - Ibiza
Southampton - Limoges (begins 14th May 2022)
Southampton - Malaga
Southampton - Mykonos
Southampton - Nice (begins 14th May 2022)
Southampton - Palma de Mallorca
Southampton - Salzburg (begins 11th December 2021)
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Terminated Routes
Heathrow - Abu Dhabi
Heathrow - Beirut
Heathrow - Buenos Aires (Direct Service)
Heathrow - Calgary
Heathrow - Charleston
Heathrow - Dammam (via Bahrain)
Heathrow - Doha
Heathrow - Durban
Heathrow - Helsinki - Specific thread
Heathrow - Islamabad (ends 9th December 2021 - Switching to LGW)
Heathrow - Jeddah (short adhoc operation in July over Hajj)
Heathrow - Kuala Lumpur
Heathrow - Leeds Bradford - Specific thread
Heathrow - Montpellier
Heathrow - Moscow SVO - Specific thread
Heathrow - Muscat
Heathrow - Osaka
Heathrow - Podgorica
Heathrow - Seoul
Heathrow - Seychelles
Gatwick - Almeria
Gatwick - Bermuda
Gatwick - Bilbao
Gatwick - Cape Town
Gatwick - Cologne
Gatwick - Edinburgh
Gatwick - Genoa
Gatwick - Las Vegas
Gatwick - Lima
Gatwick - Malé
Gatwick - Milan Bergamo
Gatwick - Nuremberg
Gatwick - Toronto
Gatwick - Vienna
London City - Gibraltar
London City - Isle of Man
London City - Manchester
London City - Milan Linate
London City - Munich
London City - New York JFK (A318 retirement)
London City - Rome
London City - Venice
Stansted - Berlin
Stansted - Chambery
Stansted - Faro
Stansted - Florence
Stansted - Ibiza
Stansted - Malaga
Stansted - Mykonos
Stansted - Palma de Mallorca
Manchester - Alicante
Manchester - Faro
Manchester - Florence
Manchester - Ibiza
Manchester - Malaga
Manchester - Mykonos
Manchester - Nice
Manchester - Palma de Mallorca
Newcastle - Faro
Edinburgh - Faro
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Routes Switching from Long Haul to Short Haul
Heathrow - Amman
Heathrow - Cairo
Heathrow - Moscow DME
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Temporary Suspensions for W21
Heathrow - Billund
Heathrow - Pisa
Heathrow - San Jose, CA
Heathrow - Sydney
Gatwick - Alicante
Gatwick - Dubrovnik
London City - Nice
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NB: All LGW Short-Haul services will depart from LHR up to and including 26 March 2022 (excluding LGW-GLA/MAN)
Heathrow - Antalya
Heathrow - Antigua
Heathrow - Barbados
Heathrow - Bermuda
Heathrow - Lahore
Heathrow - Malé
Heathrow - Mauritius
Heathrow - Newquay
Heathrow - Nuremberg (begins 27th March 2022)
Heathrow - Orlando
Heathrow - Perugia (begins 27th June 2022)
Heathrow - Ponta Delgada (begins 2nd July 2022)
Heathrow - Portland (begins 3rd June 2022)
Heathrow - Saint Lucia
Heathrow - Săo Paulo - Buenos Aires (begins 9th December 2021 - New Combined Route)
Heathrow - Terceira (begins 10th July 2022)
Gatwick - Doha
Gatwick - Islamabad (begins 27th March 2022 - Switching from LHR)
Gatwick - Manchester (begins 27 March 2022)
Gatwick - Montego Bay
London City - Barcelona (begins 19th June 2022)
London City - Belfast City
London City - Guernsey
London City - Jersey
London City - Luxembourg (begins 27th March 2022)
London City - Milan Malpensa (begins 27th March 2022)
London City - Salzburg (begins Feb 2022)
London City - San Sebastián (begins 8th July 2022)
London City - Thessaloniki (begins 18th June 2022)
Edinburgh - Guernsey
Belfast City - Birmingham
Belfast City - Exeter
Belfast City - Glasgow
Belfast City - Leeds/Bradford
Belfast City - London City
Belfast City - Newquay
Southampton - Alicante
Southampton - Bergerac
Southampton - Berlin
Southampton - Chambery (begins 18th December 2021)
Southampton - Edinburgh
Southampton - Faro
Southampton - Florence (begins 30th April 2022)
Southampton - Ibiza
Southampton - Limoges (begins 14th May 2022)
Southampton - Malaga
Southampton - Mykonos
Southampton - Nice (begins 14th May 2022)
Southampton - Palma de Mallorca
Southampton - Salzburg (begins 11th December 2021)
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Terminated Routes
Heathrow - Abu Dhabi
Heathrow - Beirut
Heathrow - Buenos Aires (Direct Service)
Heathrow - Calgary
Heathrow - Charleston
Heathrow - Dammam (via Bahrain)
Heathrow - Doha
Heathrow - Durban
Heathrow - Helsinki - Specific thread
Heathrow - Islamabad (ends 9th December 2021 - Switching to LGW)
Heathrow - Jeddah (short adhoc operation in July over Hajj)
Heathrow - Kuala Lumpur
Heathrow - Leeds Bradford - Specific thread
Heathrow - Montpellier
Heathrow - Moscow SVO - Specific thread
Heathrow - Muscat
Heathrow - Osaka
Heathrow - Podgorica
Heathrow - Seoul
Heathrow - Seychelles
Gatwick - Almeria
Gatwick - Bermuda
Gatwick - Bilbao
Gatwick - Cape Town
Gatwick - Cologne
Gatwick - Edinburgh
Gatwick - Genoa
Gatwick - Las Vegas
Gatwick - Lima
Gatwick - Malé
Gatwick - Milan Bergamo
Gatwick - Nuremberg
Gatwick - Toronto
Gatwick - Vienna
London City - Gibraltar
London City - Isle of Man
London City - Manchester
London City - Milan Linate
London City - Munich
London City - New York JFK (A318 retirement)
London City - Rome
London City - Venice
Stansted - Berlin
Stansted - Chambery
Stansted - Faro
Stansted - Florence
Stansted - Ibiza
Stansted - Malaga
Stansted - Mykonos
Stansted - Palma de Mallorca
Manchester - Alicante
Manchester - Faro
Manchester - Florence
Manchester - Ibiza
Manchester - Malaga
Manchester - Mykonos
Manchester - Nice
Manchester - Palma de Mallorca
Newcastle - Faro
Edinburgh - Faro
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Routes Switching from Long Haul to Short Haul
Heathrow - Amman
Heathrow - Cairo
Heathrow - Moscow DME
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Temporary Suspensions for W21
Heathrow - Billund
Heathrow - Pisa
Heathrow - San Jose, CA
Heathrow - Sydney
Gatwick - Alicante
Gatwick - Dubrovnik
London City - Nice
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NB: All LGW Short-Haul services will depart from LHR up to and including 26 March 2022 (excluding LGW-GLA/MAN)
COVID-19 BA Suspended Routes, Changes in The BA Network, Speculation & Discussion
Dec 19, 2020, 9:32 pm
#376
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: ABZ/NCL
Posts: 2,943
Have a look at the news then get back to me. Heathrow is in Tier 4, the highest risk. All non essential local traffic out of London is now illegal. UK connections will be down to one daily flight each to the domestics, not even close to the beginnings of making a dent in filling long haul while London is closed to travel.
Remember people in tier 1, 2 and 3 are allowed to enter a tier 4 airport as confirmed by Heathrow. Plus all that London traffic can still travel work work which will benefit US routes combined with a lifting of the US entry ban. No need to get so upset about it.
Based on the current schedule loaded for mid July 2021 BA plan to operate the following long haul frequencies:
Accra - Daily
Antigua - 6 x Weekly
Cancun - Daily
Doha - Daily
Grenada (via St Lucia) - 2 x Weekly
Islamabad - 6 x Weekly
Kingston - 3 x Weekly
Las Vegas - 3 x Weekly
Mauritius - 3 x Weekly
Orlando - Daily
Port of Spain (via St Lucia) - 4 x Weekly
Providenciales (via Antigua ) - 1 x Weekly
Punta Cana - 3 x Weekly
St Kitts (via Antigua) - 2 x Weekly
St Lucia- 6 x Weekly
Tampa - 5 x Weekly
Tobago (via Antigua) - 2 x Weekly
Note: ALL flights are planned to operated by 3 Class 777 in a high density configuration
Accra - Daily
Antigua - 6 x Weekly
Cancun - Daily
Doha - Daily
Grenada (via St Lucia) - 2 x Weekly
Islamabad - 6 x Weekly
Kingston - 3 x Weekly
Las Vegas - 3 x Weekly
Mauritius - 3 x Weekly
Orlando - Daily
Port of Spain (via St Lucia) - 4 x Weekly
Providenciales (via Antigua ) - 1 x Weekly
Punta Cana - 3 x Weekly
St Kitts (via Antigua) - 2 x Weekly
St Lucia- 6 x Weekly
Tampa - 5 x Weekly
Tobago (via Antigua) - 2 x Weekly
Note: ALL flights are planned to operated by 3 Class 777 in a high density configuration
Dec 20, 2020, 1:31 am
#379
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,589
There would seem little point in this. You are permitted to travel from T1 and T2 to LHR in order to fly for non essential reasons despite LHR being located in a T4 area.
Dec 20, 2020, 1:51 am
#380
Join Date: Mar 2020
Programs: British Airways GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond & Marriott Gold
Posts: 2,612
Dec 20, 2020, 11:49 am
#381
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Up North.
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 311
Seems an odd one. I would imagine the majority of pax doing LON-DOH are transiting elsewhere... Most likely with an onward flight with QR. Why then compete against QR themselves on the route with their far superior, 3 daily 787 service which BA already codeshare on?
Dec 20, 2020, 11:57 am
#382
Ambassador: Emirates Airlines
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 18,603
This seems to have passed by without generating any discussion (unless I've missed it).
Seems an odd one. I would imagine the majority of pax doing LON-DOH are transiting elsewhere... Most likely with an onward flight with QR. Why then compete against QR themselves on the route with their far superior, 3 daily 787 service which BA already codeshare on?
Seems an odd one. I would imagine the majority of pax doing LON-DOH are transiting elsewhere... Most likely with an onward flight with QR. Why then compete against QR themselves on the route with their far superior, 3 daily 787 service which BA already codeshare on?
Dec 20, 2020, 12:06 pm
#385
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: ABZ/NCL
Posts: 2,943
Ah so it was, my apologies.
I do not know why BA are doing this. Could it be a slot filler? Makes more sense to leave LON-DOH to QR, like with LON-HEL to AY.
I wonder if the plan could be to combine DOH with BAH again, now that DMM is being discontinued.
I do not know why BA are doing this. Could it be a slot filler? Makes more sense to leave LON-DOH to QR, like with LON-HEL to AY.
I wonder if the plan could be to combine DOH with BAH again, now that DMM is being discontinued.
Dec 20, 2020, 12:18 pm
#386
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
This seems to have passed by without generating any discussion (unless I've missed it).
Seems an odd one. I would imagine the majority of pax doing LON-DOH are transiting elsewhere... Most likely with an onward flight with QR. Why then compete against QR themselves on the route with their far superior, 3 daily 787 service which BA already codeshare on?
Seems an odd one. I would imagine the majority of pax doing LON-DOH are transiting elsewhere... Most likely with an onward flight with QR. Why then compete against QR themselves on the route with their far superior, 3 daily 787 service which BA already codeshare on?
QR was previously running up to 3 flights a day from LGW, I think they’re planning to reduce that for S21. But still they will have a large number of flights and I can’t see why both carriers need to be on this ‘secondary’ route.
Dec 20, 2020, 1:53 pm
#388
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 3,059
DOH, of course, does have a joint business, with joint considerations. And one of those is a certain amount of joint flying, i.e. with both airlines serving the route. Hence the continuation of BA flights to DOH in the absence of any other logic for them. Similarly, this also means it will not be served with a stop between London and Doha.
Dec 21, 2020, 5:57 pm
#389
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: London
Programs: BA
Posts: 2,368
Looks like New Orleans has gone from at least part of S21 if not all. Have decided to move trip in May 21 on the basis that I can't see it happening. Looking at flights in September 21 and there's nothing direct to MSY. On the upside it brings back cheap F fares to MSY connecting elsewhere so if I get to fly, that's a nice bonus.
Dec 21, 2020, 6:09 pm
#390
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 3,440
Looks like New Orleans has gone from at least part of S21 if not all. Have decided to move trip in May 21 on the basis that I can't see it happening. Looking at flights in September 21 and there's nothing direct to MSY. On the upside it brings back cheap F fares to MSY connecting elsewhere so if I get to fly, that's a nice bonus.