BA Flights to Argentina
#1
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BA Flights to Argentina
Argentina is not accepting external flights until at least 1st September. Indeed, no internal flights are taking place either.
I have a flight booked from LHR to EZE on 7/7, returning 24/8. It still shows as going in MMB. At what point are BA likely to cancel the flight?
I asked BA on Twitter and was told just to wait, seemingly indefinitely. Thanks.
I have a flight booked from LHR to EZE on 7/7, returning 24/8. It still shows as going in MMB. At what point are BA likely to cancel the flight?
I asked BA on Twitter and was told just to wait, seemingly indefinitely. Thanks.
#2
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Most likely is about 3 weeks before, but it could easily be any time up to 14 days before. Most unlikely to be less than 14 days, as then you would be entitled to compensation (not just a refund).
EDIT: just noticed that you've been on FT for some time, but this is a first post.
Most likely is about 3 weeks before, but it could easily be any time up to 14 days before. Most unlikely to be less than 14 days, as then you would be entitled to compensation (not just a refund).
EDIT: just noticed that you've been on FT for some time, but this is a first post.
Last edited by fruitcage; May 9, 2020 at 11:29 am
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You're going to have to wait a bit longer for the July flight to be considered and most likely cancelled but it's certainly not indefinite. If your August return flight is part of the same booking then at least you won't need to wait for that to be cancelled to in order to request a refund. There really is nothing motivating BA to cancel flights further out at the moment and the situation may change as Governments look to adjust their strategies.
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For context I had flights for next month cancelled a couple of days ago so based on that and what BA did last month it will be around 3/4 weeks until the July schedule starts to get firmed up and you may get a cancel notice.
#5
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Argentina is not accepting external flights until at least 1st September. Indeed, no internal flights are taking place either.
I have a flight booked from LHR to EZE on 7/7, returning 24/8. It still shows as going in MMB. At what point are BA likely to cancel the flight?
I asked BA on Twitter and was told just to wait, seemingly indefinitely. Thanks.
I have a flight booked from LHR to EZE on 7/7, returning 24/8. It still shows as going in MMB. At what point are BA likely to cancel the flight?
I asked BA on Twitter and was told just to wait, seemingly indefinitely. Thanks.
No cancellation as yet.
#6
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Most likely is about 3 weeks before, but it could easily be any time up to 14 days before. Most unlikely to be less than 14 days, as then you would be entitled to compensation (not just a refund).
EDIT: just noticed that you've been on FT for some time, but this is a first post.
Most likely is about 3 weeks before, but it could easily be any time up to 14 days before. Most unlikely to be less than 14 days, as then you would be entitled to compensation (not just a refund).
EDIT: just noticed that you've been on FT for some time, but this is a first post.
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Argentina is not accepting external flights until at least 1st September. Indeed, no internal flights are taking place either.
I have a flight booked from LHR to EZE on 7/7, returning 24/8. It still shows as going in MMB. At what point are BA likely to cancel the flight?
I asked BA on Twitter and was told just to wait, seemingly indefinitely. Thanks.
I have a flight booked from LHR to EZE on 7/7, returning 24/8. It still shows as going in MMB. At what point are BA likely to cancel the flight?
I asked BA on Twitter and was told just to wait, seemingly indefinitely. Thanks.
#8
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At this point in time I'd say that airlines have had enough time to reasonably program their schedules with at least 14 days notice.
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Not necessarily true. The article says that "An operating air carrier shall not be obliged to pay compensation in accordance with Article 7, if it can prove that the cancellation is caused by extraordinary circumstances which could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken".
At this point in time I'd say that airlines have had enough time to reasonably program their schedules with at least 14 days notice.
At this point in time I'd say that airlines have had enough time to reasonably program their schedules with at least 14 days notice.
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Given that it's pretty clear now that the flight will not take place, and that clarity will increase as flight date approaches, the airline might find it difficult to claim it should not compensate passengers if it waits until the final days before the flight to cancel it.
I imagine formal cancellation will take place when BA is satisfied that Argentina's position is not going to change to make the flight possible
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Given that it's pretty clear now that the flight will not take place, and that clarity will increase as flight date approaches, the airline might find it difficult to claim it should not compensate passengers if it waits until the final days before the flight to cancel it.
I imagine formal cancellation will take place when BA is satisfied that Argentina's position is not going to change to make the flight possible
I imagine formal cancellation will take place when BA is satisfied that Argentina's position is not going to change to make the flight possible
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Indeed, you are right on this. No compensation if the passenger is informed at least 15 days before the flight.
BA might have a strategic approach, if they cancel all Argentina flights until 30 September at once, it would mean that they would need to refund all passengers who want right now within 7 days. If they wait until 15-21 days before the flight, for the peace of comfort, there would be people who wish to take a FTV and they would delay the refund payments.
BA might have a strategic approach, if they cancel all Argentina flights until 30 September at once, it would mean that they would need to refund all passengers who want right now within 7 days. If they wait until 15-21 days before the flight, for the peace of comfort, there would be people who wish to take a FTV and they would delay the refund payments.
I'm in the same Argentina boat, but with Lufthansa and the end August. So i am following the situation keenly!
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No cancelation so far, although all fare classes are zeroed and the FRA EZE is not for sale until 01 September.
#14
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Thanks for the info. I'm not a regular flyer, hence the first time post after just watching for general info re Covid.
I hadn't considered compensation, I'm just wanting to get an idea of how the cancellations work. Plenty of replies on here so really pleased with the info given.I'll just wait for their email and then try for a refund, as it's not possible to reschedule.
I hadn't considered compensation, I'm just wanting to get an idea of how the cancellations work. Plenty of replies on here so really pleased with the info given.I'll just wait for their email and then try for a refund, as it's not possible to reschedule.
#15
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Looks like preserving cash flow while minimising chances for compensation claims.