BA to cut up to 12,000 jobs in "restructuring and redundancy programme"
May 3, 2020, 2:55 am
#421
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From a personal perspective, a zero-hour contract works fine for me and I have declined the opportunity of a full time contract. I have the flexibility whether to take on work or not and I still retain the full employment rights as my full time colleagues.
I fully accept that a zero-hour contract is not suitable for most workers, but there are those who find such flexibility more suitable to their own circumstances.
May 3, 2020, 3:29 am
#422
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...What would a strike achieve when there's not any flying to disrupt? It's why BA is doing it now. A strike will be pointless and on the cusp of major economic decline, they know they'll not have an issue filling the new contracts with people desperate to keep a job
May 3, 2020, 3:38 am
#424
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May 3, 2020, 3:41 am
#425
Join Date: Apr 2020
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I feel very fortunate that my Union is very strong and has a good relationship with my employer. I feel for those with weak ones, especially in this situation
May 3, 2020, 3:52 am
#426
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BA has been invited to appear before the Transport Select Committee next week, apparently after MP Gavin Newlands was unhappy about the news.
May 3, 2020, 3:58 am
#427
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The disruption caused (by just a few days of strike action) last summer / autumn - in both financial and logistical terms - was huge, creating a true nightmare scenario for BA exec management. Yes, they played hardball and ‘won the day’ ...... but there is little doubt that they would have been forced to capitulate if the pilots, and their Union, had shown more steely resolve.
A real missed opportunity for the pilots (regardless of the merits of their case) if ever there was one. It seems inconceivable that in the foreseeable future, BA pilots (and perhaps those working for almost any airline ...?) will get a better chance to make an impact.
May 3, 2020, 4:33 am
#428
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Warren Buffet has just announced he has sold out his entire half billion investment in the big 4 US airlines. His statement is that the aviation industry will do nothing but chew money for the foreseeable future and Buffet always thinks long term. He usually gets it right as well. The t&cs working for BA and probably anywhere else in that industry are in for some serious downgrading sadly
May 3, 2020, 4:40 am
#429
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Warren Buffet has just announced he has sold out his entire half billion investment in the big 4 US airlines. His statement is that the aviation industry will do nothing but chew money for the foreseeable future and Buffet always thinks long term. He usually gets it right as well. The t&cs working for BA and probably anywhere else in that industry are in for some serious downgrading sadly
May 3, 2020, 5:02 am
#430
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I think there is a huge difference, in the present market, of an investor looking at a company and making their own thoughts of the market. Versus a company making changes they had possibly long wanted to make and using this opportunity to make such changes.
Sadly a lot of companies especially in retail and travel will make decisions that they have wanted to do for a long time and havent been able to do, unions and building leases for example.
As earlier people have said the unions have never regained they power. They are not really going to call a strike now.
The market will pick up over the next 24 months and then further when a vaccine is found and given to everyone.
Sadly a lot of companies especially in retail and travel will make decisions that they have wanted to do for a long time and havent been able to do, unions and building leases for example.
As earlier people have said the unions have never regained they power. They are not really going to call a strike now.
The market will pick up over the next 24 months and then further when a vaccine is found and given to everyone.
May 3, 2020, 5:06 am
#431
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He called this too late, unless he sold in January.
The Dow is now roughly as high as it was last June. Explain that one ....
The Dow is now roughly as high as it was last June. Explain that one ....
May 3, 2020, 5:44 am
#432
Join Date: Aug 2019
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I wonder, with MP's now showing an interest, if it might just turn out that in their rush to get this process started, coupled with WW, AC and IAG in general apparently seeing themselves as the supreme and untouchable rulers of all that they survey, they've actually shot themselves in the foot by drawing more attention to it than would have been the case if they'd waited for the JRS to end and business to find its new normal?
Still wrong, either way.
Best wishes to all my former colleagues.
Still wrong, either way.
Best wishes to all my former colleagues.
Last edited by OnceCrew; May 3, 2020 at 5:47 am Reason: added "with MP's now showing an interest"
May 3, 2020, 5:58 am
#433
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I wonder, with MP's now showing an interest, if it might just turn out that in their rush to get this process started, coupled with WW, AC and IAG in general apparently seeing themselves as the supreme and untouchable rulers of all that they survey, they've actually shot themselves in the foot by drawing more attention to it than would have been the case if they'd waited for the JRS to end and business to find its new normal?
Still wrong, either way.
Best wishes to all my former colleagues.
Still wrong, either way.
Best wishes to all my former colleagues.
Realistically, what can the government do, without setting what would be considered a dangerous precedent for getting involved in private business?
As others have pointed out, the date of consultation coincides with the end of the JRS - and BA could (and probably will) argue that once the JRS ends this is necessary as it can't afford to keep them
May 3, 2020, 6:27 am
#434
Join Date: Nov 2016
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I wonder, with MP's now showing an interest, if it might just turn out that in their rush to get this process started, coupled with WW, AC and IAG in general apparently seeing themselves as the supreme and untouchable rulers of all that they survey, they've actually shot themselves in the foot by drawing more attention to it than would have been the case if they'd waited for the JRS to end and business to find its new normal?
Still wrong, either way.
Best wishes to all my former colleagues.
Still wrong, either way.
Best wishes to all my former colleagues.
May 3, 2020, 7:28 am
#435
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,345
Heathrow may also be forced to make redundancies.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...ety-air-travel
Need to get rapid testdetectors installed like these developed by Oxford Uni.
http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-03-18-oxford-scientists-develop-rapid-testing-technology-covid-19
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2...ety-air-travel
Need to get rapid testdetectors installed like these developed by Oxford Uni.
http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-03-18-oxford-scientists-develop-rapid-testing-technology-covid-19