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Impact of extended lockdown on BA June schedule

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Planned long haul services for June 2020, published by routesonline.com

Long-haul routes
As of 0930GMT 07MAY20, planned June 2020 long-haul operation as follows. Additional changes expected in the next few days.

Heathrow to Boston: 1 daily 787-8
Heathrow to Chicago O’Hare: 1 daily 787-9
Heathrow to Delhi: 1 daily 787-8 (from 1st July)
Heathrow to Hong Kong: 3 weekly 777-300ER
Heathrow to Los Angeles: 1 daily 787-9
Heathrow to Mumbai: 787-9 operates alternating days (from 1st July)
Heathrow to New York JFK: 2 daily 747-400/777-200ER Daily 777-200ER
Heathrow to San Francisco: 1 daily 787-8 (from 8th June)
Heathrow to Sao Paulo Guarulhos: 1 daily 777-300ER (from 1st July)
Heathrow to Singapore: 777-300ER operates alternating days
Heathrow to Tel Aviv: 1 daily A350-1000XWB 4 x Weekly 777-300ER
Heathrow to Toronto: 1 daily 787-8 (from 1st July)
Heathrow to Washington Dulles: 1 daily A350-1000XWB

BA currently lists London Heathrow – Beijing Daxing (from 14JUN20) and London Heathrow – Shanghai Pu Dong schedule for June 2020, however only following booking class open for reservation: A / C / E / B. Both routes scheduled as alternating days service.


Short haul routes
British Airways in recent schedule update filed planned European operations for the month of June 2020. From London Heathrow, the oneWorld carrier plans to resume additional routes, offering 316 weekly flight departures (based on 10MAY20 OAG schedules data), instead of 1750 weekly listed as of 15MAR20.

As of 10MAY20, schedule listing also sees BA CityFlyer resumes operation, offering service from London City, Edinburgh and Glasgow from 01JUN20, while London Gatwick departures to be resumed by 01JUL20. Due to ongoing development, these plan may see further modification in the next few days.

Edinburgh – Florence 2 weekly
Edinburgh – Palma Mallorca 1 weekly
Glasgow – Palma Mallorca 1 weekly
London City – Amsterdam 16 weekly
London City – Berlin Tegel 9 weekly
London City – Dublin 17 weekly
London City – Edinburgh 17 weekly
London City – Florence 4 weekly
London City – Frankfurt 9 weekly
London City – Glasgow 13 weekly
London City – Ibiza 4 weekly
London City – Isle of Man 6 weekly
London City – Milan Linate 11 weekly
London City – Nice 4 weekly 0
London City – Rotterdam 15 weekly
London Heathrow – Aberdeen 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Amsterdam 14 weekly
London Heathrow – Athens eff 19JUN20 3 weekly
London Heathrow – Barcelona 14 weekly
London Heathrow – Basel/Mulhouse 4 weekly
London Heathrow – Belfast City 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Berlin Tegel 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Bologna 3 weekly
London Heathrow – Brussels 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Bucharest 4 weekly
London Heathrow – Budapest 10 weekly
London Heathrow – Copenhagen 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Dalaman 1 weekly
London Heathrow – Dublin 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Dusseldorf 6 weekly
London Heathrow – Edinburgh 14 weekly
London Heathrow – Faro 6 weekly
London Heathrow – Geneva 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Gibraltar 4 weekly
London Heathrow – Glasgow 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Ibiza 11 weekly
London Heathrow – Istanbul 3 weekly
London Heathrow – Krakow 3 weekly
London Heathrow – Larnaca eff 18JUN20 3 weekly
London Heathrow – Lisbon 11 weekly
London Heathrow – Madrid 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Malaga 4 weekly
London Heathrow – Manchester 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Milan Linate 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Moscow Domodedovo 14 weekly
London Heathrow – Moscow Sheremetyevo 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Munich 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Nice 11 weekly 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Oslo 4 weekly
London Heathrow – Palma Mallorca 13 weekly
London Heathrow – Paris CDG 7 weekly 4 weekly
London Heathrow – Prague 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Reykjavik Keflavik 3 weekly
London Heathrow – Rome 11 weekly
London Heathrow – Sofia 3 weekly
London Heathrow – Split 5 weekly
London Heathrow – Stockholm Arlanda 7 weekly
London Heathrow – Tenerife South 2 weekly
London Heathrow – Valencia 4 weekly
London Heathrow – Venice 10 weekly
London Heathrow – Warsaw 3 weekly
London Heathrow – Zagreb 3 weekly
London Heathrow – Zurich 7 weekly



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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:00 am
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Impact of extended lockdown on BA June schedule

With it looking increasingly likely the lockdown is going to extend well beyond mid May and quite possibly in to June before there is even a slight relaxation of current measures, it is highly likely there will be severe cuts to the planned June schedule.

In view of this I thought it a good idea to have a separate thread to the one for May.

I am keeping a keen eye on it as I’m due to fly to Vietnam on 3rd June, with LHR-HKG-LHR and HKG-HAN on separate tickets. Vietnam is currently out of bounds which makes the trip pointless so I’m hoping the BA flights get cancelled so I can get a refund.

I assume there are many on here with flights booked for the first half of June, anxious to know if their travel schedule will be disrupted.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:04 am
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Originally Posted by wb1969 View Post
With it looking increasingly likely the lockdown is going to extend well beyond mid May and quite possibly in to June before there is even a slight relaxation of current measures, it is highly likely there will be severe cuts to the planned June schedule.

In view of this I thought it a good idea to have a separate thread to the one for May.

I am keeping a keen eye on it as I’m due to fly to Vietnam on 3rd June, with LHR-HKG-LHR and HKG-HAN on separate tickets. Vietnam is currently out of bounds which makes the trip pointless so I’m hoping the BA flights get cancelled so I can get a refund.

I assume there are many on here with flights booked for the first half of June, anxious to know if their travel schedule will be disrupted.
Bit of a guessing game at the moment I think but I think June cancellations would start approximately mid May. I personally have trips to Spain and Portugal June, July and September. Even if they're not cancelled I'll not be doing June and probably not July either. Possibly September, but that's Madrid.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:06 am
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BA are flying a daily service to HKG in May so may mean your flight remains for June
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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:09 am
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly View Post
BA are flying a daily service to HKG in May so may mean your flight remains for June
Even if the flight operates, it depends on what's happening nearer the tine regarding lockdown or relaxing of some measures, as we may still only be allowed to travel for essential reasons. Who knows at this point.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:18 am
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My flight on June 1st from JNB to LHR in J has now been cancelled. Also cancelled, JNB-VFA/LVI-JNB end of May. And my ET flight to WDH rescheduled. So there goes my vacation to Namibia and Victoria falls. Not that I was thinking it is going to happen.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:30 am
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Why is BA waiting on cancelling short hauls for June?

For example, BA cancelled all flights to GOT through May. But is scheduling 2-3 flights a day starting June 1st.

I highly doubt they will fill 3 planes a week.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly View Post
BA are flying a daily service to HKG in May so may mean your flight remains for June
Trouble is that it’s not the one I’m booked on and if they switch my flight, I’ll miss my connection. That’s my problem to fix as separate tickets which is why I hope they give me an option to cancel as I can’t get in to Vietnam anyway.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:41 am
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Originally Posted by DreamTrip View Post
Why is BA waiting on cancelling short hauls for June?

For example, BA cancelled all flights to GOT through May. But is scheduling 2-3 flights a day starting June 1st.

I highly doubt they will fill 3 planes a week.
I would have thought because they want wait until the last possible moment to preserve cash.

I am of the view that June cancellations will be guided by the next assessment due in a little over a fortnight from now. My money has always been on the easing of the lockdown mid-May. But I certainly do not expect a rush of back to full flights.

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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:50 am
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All I want in June is to be able to complete 70 TPs to get me to a GUF - clearly under the assumption that it’s OK to travel and I’d be putting nobody at particular risk.

I’m not one for TP runs particularly, and I’ve already had sufficient flights cancelled that I’d have got there by now, but as GUFs don’t seem to be covered under the reduced renewals, then I’d be a little miffed to miss out by such a small amount.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by DreamTrip View Post
Why is BA waiting on cancelling short hauls for June?

For example, BA cancelled all flights to GOT through May. But is scheduling 2-3 flights a day starting June 1st.

I highly doubt they will fill 3 planes a week.
They would wait until 14-15-16 May to see the demand and then cancel some of the flights at the 15-day legal limit.
Also, an earlier cancelation means, earlier refunds which would not be profitable for the economy of BA.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by Hoch View Post
I would have thought because they want wait until the last possible moment to preserve cash.

I am of the view that June cancellations will be guided by the next assessment due in a little over a fortnight from now. My money has always been on the easing of the lockdown mid-May. But I certainly do not expect a rush of back to full flights.

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I've tended to agree, mid to late May, and back to fully open early June. But the problem at the moment is the wider public believe that we should wait for a vaccine and that anything else is tantamount to murder and profit before people.

Whislt that's wholly impractical and untrue, I can see this lockdown lasting longer than it should because of uninformed public outcry
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Originally Posted by BA6948 View Post
My flight on June 1st from JNB to LHR in J has now been cancelled. Also cancelled, JNB-VFA/LVI-JNB end of May. And my ET flight to WDH rescheduled. So there goes my vacation to Namibia and Victoria falls. Not that I was thinking it is going to happen.
That JNB-LHR flight is cancelled as a result of BA55 being cancelled in all of May, meaning that the aircraft won't be in position on 1 June in JNB I imagine.
I'm flying later that month on that route so will be following this thread keenly.

Lockdown measures need to be eased in both the country you're travelling to/from for the travel to be unrestricted, which I don't see as realistic.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by northeastflyer View Post
Bit of a guessing game at the moment I think but I think June cancellations would start approximately mid May. I personally have trips to Spain and Portugal June, July and September. Even if they're not cancelled I'll not be doing June and probably not July either. Possibly September, but that's Madrid.
There may be no travel to Spain in 2020.

Spain is looking at a two phase plan to re-open the country, and Labor Minister Yolanda Diaz has been quoted in recent days with an outlook that suggests no travel through 2020. Travel is currently lumped into plans of attenuated exceptionality, and attenuated normality, the latter of which won’t see a resurgence until 2021.
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Old Apr 20, 20, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by Keiran Newberry View Post
I've tended to agree, mid to late May, and back to fully open early June. But the problem at the moment is the wider public believe that we should wait for a vaccine and that anything else is tantamount to murder and profit before people.

Whislt that's wholly impractical and untrue, I can see this lockdown lasting longer than it should because of uninformed public outcry
Fully open in early June? LOL, that would invite a sharp second round of infections which the NHS, struggling at the best of times, would not be equipped to handle.

No one, unless they are genuinely uninformed or just not very knowledgable about these things, believes in a vaccine being available in short order. The informed view is that a virus, if one is developed and found to be successful, will not be widely available for between 12 to 18 months. Or the virus mutates, or no vaccine is properly developed. The only informed effective measure to stop the spread is quite literally to stop the spread.
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Mr TL and the children seem quite optimistic that we will be having our Greek holiday come mid-August.

They seem to have overlooked the fact that
a) BA may not be running flights to EFL by then
b) Greece may not be open to UK visitors by then
c) that our villa owners themselves have managed to get into Greece from Dubai to open up

I on the other hand remain to be convinced that we’ll be going anywhere before Christmas
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