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Vangrovsky Apr 19, 2020 1:21 pm

will BA accept UK citizen who may be sick with no insurance to fly from US back to UK
 

Originally Posted by Nephoi (Post 32303293)
i unsure what business days are in the US. i requested the refund on April 7... thats now 7 business days?

it took over 7 business days for the refund to show up as paid and another 3 days before it finally appeared on the bank account.

corporate-wage-slave Apr 19, 2020 1:29 pm


Originally Posted by Vangrovsky (Post 32307221)
If he suspects himself of having any coronavirus symptoms, even if extremely minor, will BA accept him on flight from the US back to the UK? his wife is a EU citizen(Sweden), if that makes any difference.

If he suspects he is Covid-19 positive, the last place he will want to be is in an aircraft. It doesn't do good things to one's respiratory system. If BA were aware of someone showing the classic symptoms the captain is most unlikely to agree to passage, unless it had been agreed to in advance via BA's medical team.

Note that non resident Britons do not necessarily get free treatment on the NHS, other than primary treatment.

navylad Apr 19, 2020 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by Vangrovsky (Post 32307221)
the guy is UK citizen living in the US. No health insurance whatsoever. (in a Republican state, so even Medicaid is not possible)

Hospital has already said that they will refuse treatment(except for emergency room, of course) because he had already filed bankruptcy last yet due to massive hospital bill last year. ($37,000+ for a broken arm)

If he suspects himself of having any coronavirus symptoms, even if extremely minor, will BA accept him on flight from the US back to the UK? his wife is a EU citizen(Sweden), if that makes any difference. both of them are not US citizens yet.

this question is strictly limited to BA only, as he already found the answer for other airlines that still provide service from US to UK. Other airlines publish this information on their websites, but BA's website says nothing.(unless it's buried deep on their website)

Obviously nobody can give you specific advice except the airline themselves. BA’s information can be found https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...-and-pregnancy.

id suggest that it is unlikely any airline would agree to combat someone with a suspicion of an infectious disease, particularly a respiratory one not only due to the risks to other passengers, but also because of the hypoxia of the flight as this could cause a need to divert or worse.

If it is a concern, is there a reason they are remaining in the US and not already travelled back to Sweden whilst well?


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 32307241)
If he suspects he is Covid-19 positive, the last place he will want to be is in an aircraft. It doesn't do good things to one's respiratory system. If BA were aware of someone showing the classic symptoms the captain is most unlikely to agree to passage.

Note that non resident Britons do not necessarily get free treatment on the NHS, other than primary treatment.

EEA citizens get free NHS treatment (but may have to pay for things such as prescriptions like UK citizens).

Further, the Uk made a decision to treat all people for Coronavirus irrespective of status, including a test even if it is negative. If it is negative, citizens from countries who do not have a reciprocal health agreement with the Uk may well be charged.

UKtravelbear Apr 19, 2020 1:31 pm

If he is ill then he should not be travelling.

It has nothing to do with citizenship or residence or if they have insurance or not.

What it it you are actually asking though that other airlines have on ther websites but BA apparenty does not?

And access to free NHS services is based on residency not nationality.

corporate-wage-slave Apr 19, 2020 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by navylad (Post 32307248)
EEA citizens get free NHS treatment (but may have to pay for things such as prescriptions like UK citizens).

I think it's EEA plus Switzerland residents, rather than citizens. Plus the reciprocal arrangements. I can't see how someone British or Swedish living in the USA would be covered, for example.

Vangrovsky Apr 19, 2020 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by UKtravelbear (Post 32307249)
And access to free NHS services is based on residency not nationality.

but the hospital has already advised him that they would not treat him because of the bankruptcy he filed last year. (which was due to $37,000 medical debt that he incurred at this same hospital) They said the exception would be if he made prior financial arrangement or had "full blow coronavirus and the ambulance brings him in on stretchers"(since the US has laws making ER treatment mandatory. the hospital is a private health system with a dozen large hospitals... and they have a virtual monopoly in that area.(meaning all 12 hospitals are linked and can see his financial records)

It can't be much worse for him at any random hospital in the UK if he makes it back, right? they'll at least start to treat him and then make him figure out a way to pay later, right?

Skimo Apr 19, 2020 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by Vangrovsky (Post 32307221)
the guy is UK citizen living in the US. No health insurance whatsoever. (in a Republican state, so even Medicaid is not possible)

Hospital has already said that they will refuse treatment(except for emergency room, of course) because he had already filed bankruptcy last yet due to massive hospital bill last year. ($37,000+ for a broken arm)

If he suspects himself of having any coronavirus symptoms, even if extremely minor, will BA accept him on flight from the US back to the UK? his wife is a EU citizen(Sweden), if that makes any difference. both of them are not US citizens yet.

this question is strictly limited to BA only, as he already found the answer for other airlines that still provide service from US to UK. Other airlines publish this information on their websites, but BA's website says nothing.(unless it's buried deep on their website)

There is absolutely no way he will be accepted on a BA flight if he has COVID19 symptoms. I'm surprised you even need to ask that, tbh.

mikeyfly Apr 19, 2020 1:44 pm

If he’s that concerned and after gratis health care, maybe he should just fly home now whilst he’s healthy.

Vangrovsky Apr 19, 2020 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by mikeyfly (Post 32307270)
If he’s that concerned and after gratis health care, maybe he should just fly home now whilst he’s healthy.

which is what I said to him last night....

by the way, he's not after free health care. he was laid off from his company... then lost his insurance. his new company did not offer any health insurance, so he had to buy private health insurance on his own, which was almost $2000 per month, with a $5000 deductible, for himself. Then he broke his arm just 6 days before his new $$$ insurance plan was scheduled to kick in.

KARFA Apr 19, 2020 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by Vangrovsky (Post 32307268)
but the hospital has already advised him that they would not treat him because of the bankruptcy he filed last year. (which was due to $37,000 medical debt that he incurred at this same hospital) They said the exception would be if he made prior financial arrangement or had "full blow coronavirus and the ambulance brings him in on stretchers"(since the US has laws making ER treatment mandatory. the hospital is a private health system with a dozen large hospitals... and they have a virtual monopoly in that area.(meaning all 12 hospitals are linked and can see his financial records)

It can't be much worse for him at any random hospital in the UK if he makes it back, right? they'll at least start to treat him and then make him figure out a way to pay later, right?

he wouldn’t be treated in a Uk hospital unless he was serious and had full blown symptoms either tho.

What are you expecting to happen in the UK compared to the situation in the US? It doesn’t sound like there is any advantage to be had moving.

EuropeanPete Apr 19, 2020 1:48 pm

Being in the US without insurance during a pandemic by choice is reckless. Tell your friend to get out of there while he can.

If/ when he gets Covid symptoms he needs to stay out wherever he is and not infect other people.

UKtravelbear Apr 19, 2020 1:51 pm


Originally Posted by Vangrovsky (Post 32307268)
but the hospital has already advised him that they would not treat him because of the bankruptcy he filed last year. (which was due to $37,000 medical debt that he incurred at this same hospital) They said the exception would be if he made prior financial arrangement or had "full blow coronavirus and the ambulance brings him in on stretchers"(since the US has laws making ER treatment mandatory. the hospital is a private health system with a dozen large hospitals... and they have a virtual monopoly in that area.(meaning all 12 hospitals are linked and can see his financial records)

It can't be much worse for him at any random hospital in the UK if he makes it back, right? they'll at least start to treat him and then make him figure out a way to pay later, right?

I'm refering to an NHS UK hospital not a US one.

But I retiterete if he is ill then he shouldn't be flying at all and putting other people at risk.

Vangrovsky Apr 19, 2020 1:51 pm


Originally Posted by EuropeanPete (Post 32307278)
Being in the US without insurance during a pandemic by choice is reckless. Tell your friend to get out of there while he can.

If/ when he gets Covid symptoms he needs to stay out wherever he is and not infect other people.


he was laid off from his company... then lost his insurance. his new company did not offer any health insurance, so he had to buy private health insurance on his own, which was almost $2000 per month, with a $5000 deductible, for himself. Then he broke his arm just 6 days before his new $$$ insurance plan was scheduled to kick in. that resulted in a $37,000 bill which he couldn't pay.(except about $10,000 from his own savings) after he declared bankruptcy due to this one medical bill, he lost his new job and could not afford to buy health insurance.....

navylad Apr 19, 2020 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 32307256)
I think it's EEA plus Switzerland residents, rather than citizens. Plus the reciprocal arrangements. I can't see how someone British or Swedish living in the USA would be covered, for example.

mad I understand it, it is a bit more compicated than residency, and includes EEA citizens abroad provided they would still be covered by national health insurance schemes in that EEA country, so for example some UK Pensioners can still be entitled to treatment in the UK.

for further details, here is the official DHSC guide https://assets.publishing.service.go...-_Feb_2020.pdf

to reassure the OP, life saving treatment would not be withheld in an NHS hospital, nor would treatment for Covid-19 be charged. However this would rely on him getting to the UK.

Finkface Apr 19, 2020 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by Vangrovsky (Post 32307221)
the guy is UK citizen living in the US. No health insurance whatsoever. (in a Republican state, so even Medicaid is not possible)

Hospital has already said that they will refuse treatment(except for emergency room, of course) because he had already filed bankruptcy last yet due to massive hospital bill last year. ($37,000+ for a broken arm)

If he suspects himself of having any coronavirus symptoms, even if extremely minor, will BA accept him on flight from the US back to the UK? his wife is a EU citizen(Sweden), if that makes any difference. both of them are not US citizens yet.

this question is strictly limited to BA only, as he already found the answer for other airlines that still provide service from US to UK. Other airlines publish this information on their websites, but BA's website says nothing.(unless it's buried deep on their website)

Is this the same person from over a month ago?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/omni...an-she-do.html


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