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Old Apr 21, 2020, 6:52 pm
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I flew on the 747-200 to Mumbai on a fairly regular basis in 2001/2002.

I would always try to get UD in Economy and the front room as not only did it have a good view of the flight deck when the cockpit door was open but you also had more legroom in the first row.

I can also confirm as a lowly Blue at the time (I can not remember there being a Bronze in those days) I could book upper deck 24 hours before departure regardless of the fare type.

Does anyone remember having to do a step climb (normally to 24,000 feet) to burn off some fuel and consequently weight before having the performance to climb to the full cruise height. From memory it was normally about two hours before the further climb on the Mumbai route.

It was always great getting a jump seat ride during the cruise phase of the flight.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 3:43 am
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The only time when I enjoyed flying on the Classic was when the U/D was a W/T cabin and thus a junior could work up there. It was dead easy (although back in those days the flight crew could sometimes be a bit...thought provoking!) and you were more or less your own boss. I think the idea of the U/D was far more appealing to W/T passengers than the reality. When full it did feel rather cramped and was often quite difficult to keep the cabin a comfortable temperature. Passengers up there would often ask if they could move to a seat on the main deck once inflight.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 6:36 am
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I seem to remember that the SQ 200s had business seats up top. They used a 200 with an extended upper floor, well before the 400s came out. The best seats were the window seats for the extra storage, which could also be used as footrests.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by Ancient Observer
I seem to remember that the SQ 200s had business seats up top. They used a 200 with an extended upper floor, well before the 400s came out. The best seats were the window seats for the extra storage, which could also be used as footrests.
That would have probably been a -300 variant of which SQ were an operator.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._747_operators. Very similar to a -400 sans winglets.
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Old Apr 22, 2020, 9:30 am
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Never flown upstairs on a BA 747, downstairs in WT, CW and First and never on a Boeing 747-200.
Flown First with PanAm FRA to LHR just a short hop on 100 series but got upstairs for a drink at a very dry bar, didn’t stock the bar until LHR.
Upstairs in economy with SAA on a 300 series. Premium Economy with VS and Business with KLM.
Always liked the window seats with the side lockers plenty of room for all those little bits and pieces and your drink.
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Old Apr 29, 2020, 10:49 am
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1970s First class and Super Club
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 12:01 am
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Originally Posted by Qatar Airways
1970s First class and Super Club
Crown First and Super Club products were launched in March 1981
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Old Apr 30, 2020, 1:55 am
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Originally Posted by Can I help you
It sounds like you were on a converted aircraft outbound and had the first generation CW seats and inbound you had the Super Club seat.
Has anyone got any pictures of these old Club seats?
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Old May 4, 2020, 4:35 am
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Originally Posted by Will100
Has anyone got any pictures of these old Club seats?
Do these help?

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Brit...47-136/2578747
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Brit...47-136/2579981
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Brit...47-136/2675142
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Old May 4, 2020, 4:59 am
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Does anyone know why BA had “8 main exit” 747-100 and 200 versions compared to the commonplace 10 main exit versions (5 Exit doors each side on the main deck).
Ps the items below were bought on a BA auction and were not removed from aircraft while the aircraft were still in service.

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Old May 4, 2020, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by malkie
https://web.archive.org/web/19970514...seatplan.shtml

web archive has the fleet from ~ late 90s.

some classic seat plans in there including the DC10, and Concorde.
Great resource for vintage seat maps, but am seeing right? The DC-10 had the full-flat FIRST suites?! and next to it, the B757 with CW 2-2 seating? I thought BA only used the B757 with CE seating? And what were these, the CW cradle seats?
https://web.archive.org/web/19970514...dc10b757.shtml
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Old May 4, 2020, 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by rosenkavalier
Great resource for vintage seat maps, but am seeing right? The DC-10 had the full-flat FIRST suites?! and next to it, the B757 with CW 2-2 seating? I thought BA only used the B757 with CE seating? And what were these, the CW cradle seats?
https://web.archive.org/web/19970514...dc10b757.shtml
The DC10's were fitted with first generation FIRST suites (pre walnut veneer) in the mid-late 90's.

At around the same time, BA used to have a sub fleet of no more than a few (less than 5) 757's that operated JFK service from Birmingham and Glasgow. This sub fleet featured a dedicated Club World cabin with cradle seat.
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Old May 4, 2020, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by rosenkavalier
Great resource for vintage seat maps, but am seeing right? The DC-10 had the full-flat FIRST suites?! and next to it, the B757 with CW 2-2 seating? I thought BA only used the B757 with CE seating? And what were these, the CW cradle seats?
https://web.archive.org/web/19970514...dc10b757.shtml
Interestingly the longhaul 767 shown here appears to have two rows of old (pre-flat bed) First sleeper seats sold as Club World. Some longhaul 767s did have two rows of flat bed First seats, but I didn't know they were ever configured with sleeper seats.
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Old May 4, 2020, 2:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Genius1
Interestingly the longhaul 767 shown here appears to have two rows of old (pre-flat bed) First sleeper seats sold as Club World. Some longhaul 767s did have two rows of flat bed First seats, but I didn't know they were ever configured with sleeper seats.
I think it's just a dodgy seating diagram.
The sleeper seat config in First Class (pre 1st generation flat bed) was in a 2-1-2 configuration.
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Old May 4, 2020, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by 1Aturnleft
I think it's just a dodgy seating diagram.
The sleeper seat config in First Class (pre 1st generation flat bed) was in a 2-1-2 configuration.
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Interesting - the row numbers are 1-2 and 6-9 (although there are only three rows in the second section). Looks like a dodgy diagram as you suggest.
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