BA to become all T5 at LHR from Sunday 29 March 2020
Mar 17, 2020, 11:56 am
#32
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Indeed. Now may I remind you that it's awfully selfish not to share your Avios stash with your fellow BAEC bretheren. It would be mighty selfish not to send me 50 000 Avios.
I.e. I think there's all the time in the world now for some healthy banter, taken we can't exactly cancel the rest of our lives - including the virtue of poking fun at FT.
I.e. I think there's all the time in the world now for some healthy banter, taken we can't exactly cancel the rest of our lives - including the virtue of poking fun at FT.
Mar 17, 2020, 12:06 pm
#33
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According to this article, both T3 and T4 are closing
https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2...-within-weeks/
https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2...-within-weeks/
Mar 17, 2020, 12:29 pm
#34
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According to this article, both T3 and T4 are closing
https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2...-within-weeks/
https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2...-within-weeks/
Mar 17, 2020, 12:56 pm
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Mar 17, 2020, 1:37 pm
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Mar 17, 2020, 2:01 pm
#37
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I still haven’t seen any official announcement from HAL or BA but I guess it will come soon.
Im guessing Vueling will move it’s A Coruna service to T5 (when the route returns).
Will everyone else go to T2?
Im guessing Vueling will move it’s A Coruna service to T5 (when the route returns).
Will everyone else go to T2?
Mar 17, 2020, 2:22 pm
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Mar 17, 2020, 2:53 pm
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BA CF at LCY is a separate company, so I'm not sure it could easily move to LHR.
Unfortunately for BACF it is a separate company, so BA might let it sink rather than support it if it gets into trouble. Fortunately for BACF it's a separate company and a smaller one at that so perhaps it can leverage more government support.
Business travel will, I suspect, resume as soon as official advice says travel is OK. It's too important to companies not to travel, so LCY might recover sooner. Leisure travellers might be hesitant, but I suspect that companies will declare business travel is OK and then expect people to travel, and that is most of LCY's business.
This is my complete guesswork, of course.
Unfortunately for BACF it is a separate company, so BA might let it sink rather than support it if it gets into trouble. Fortunately for BACF it's a separate company and a smaller one at that so perhaps it can leverage more government support.
Business travel will, I suspect, resume as soon as official advice says travel is OK. It's too important to companies not to travel, so LCY might recover sooner. Leisure travellers might be hesitant, but I suspect that companies will declare business travel is OK and then expect people to travel, and that is most of LCY's business.
This is my complete guesswork, of course.
Mar 17, 2020, 3:00 pm
#41
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There will be no return to 'normal' let alone over night.
Airlines will be looking very closely at their cost base and route networks and retrenching. If BA see a future without T3 because they can operate solely from T5 then they won't go back
It will be years before airlines - not just BA - start to operate anywhere near the same number of routes and frequencies it did at the start of the year.
Airlines will be looking very closely at their cost base and route networks and retrenching. If BA see a future without T3 because they can operate solely from T5 then they won't go back
It will be years before airlines - not just BA - start to operate anywhere near the same number of routes and frequencies it did at the start of the year.
perhaps not within a year, but if any airline can get back to normal, it will be BA at LHR.
Mar 17, 2020, 3:07 pm
#42
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Interesting point actually, they could move the remaining LGW routes to LHR but I guess crews etc are allocated bases and it wouldn’t be as simple as thought.
Mar 17, 2020, 3:59 pm
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I wonder what BA’s attitude to LHR slots will be when the use it or lose it rule comes in. I would imagine that this will mean that routes will move from LGW to protect the more valuable LHR slots. I can’t imagine, in a heavily weakened state, that they will be prepared to run ghost flights.
Mar 17, 2020, 4:10 pm
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I wonder what BA’s attitude to LHR slots will be when the use it or lose it rule comes in. I would imagine that this will mean that routes will move from LGW to protect the more valuable LHR slots. I can’t imagine, in a heavily weakened state, that they will be prepared to run ghost flights.
Mar 17, 2020, 4:29 pm
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BACF at LCY is a separate company, so I'm not sure it could easily move to LHR.
Unfortunately for BACF it is a separate company, so BA might let it sink rather than support it if it gets into trouble. Fortunately for BACF it's a separate company and a smaller one at that so perhaps it can leverage more government support.
Unfortunately for BACF it is a separate company, so BA might let it sink rather than support it if it gets into trouble. Fortunately for BACF it's a separate company and a smaller one at that so perhaps it can leverage more government support.
I'd think CJ would be unlikely to publically contradict BA/IAG in seeking government support; CJ management is appointed by BA after all. If BA/IAG decided to close/absorb CJ, then that would be it. If they decided it was now LEVEL UK out of STN, then likewise.
There's probably value in keeping the lower cost BA branded subsidiary, wherever they're based, but who knows what BA will look like in a week or month from now. Here's hoping for the best.