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The below represents the latest status of all of BA's fleet (Active or Stored) and their last known locations:

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BA Mainline

Barcelona (4):

A319 Fleet
Stored (1) : G-DBCD

A320CEO Fleet
Stored (3) : G-EUUL / G-EUUN / G-MEDK

Cardiff (5): (These aircraft are being refitted in CS interiors / getting maintenance)

B777-200ER Fleet
Stored (4) :
G-VIIK / G-VIIN / G-YMMK / G-YMML

B777-300ER Fleet
Stored (1) :
G-STBH

Doha (2):

A380 Fleet
Stored (2):
G-XLEE / G-XLEJ

Glasgow (5): (Some aircraft are also receiving maintenance)

A320CEO Fleet
Stored (5) :
G-EUUR / G-EUYF / G-EUYM / G-EUYV / G-MIDT

London Gatwick (41):

A319 Fleet
Stored (13) :
G-DBCA / G-DBCC / G-DBCF / G-DBCG / G-EUOA / G-EUOE / G-EUOF / G-EUPG / G-EUPJ / G-EUPL / G-EUPP / G-EUPT / G-EUPY

A320CEO Fleet
Stored (18) :
G-EUUB / G-EUUC / G-EUUF / G-EUUH / G-EUUM / G-EUUP / G-EUUS / G-EUUU / G-EUUY / G-EUYA / G-EUYB / G-EUYC / G-EUYE / G-EUYI / G-EUYK / G-EUYN / G-GATK / G-MIDY

B777-200ER Fleet
Active (10) :G-VIIO / G-VIIP / G-VIIR / G-VIIT / G-VIIU / G-VIIX / G-YMMB / G-YMMC / G-YMME / G-YMMF

London Heathrow (163):

A319 Fleet
Active (16):
G-DBCB / G-DBCE / G-DBCH / G-DBCJ / G-DBCK / G-EUOG / G-EUPD / G-EUPK / G-EUPM / G-EUPN / G-EUPO / G-EUPR / G-EUPS / G-EUPU / G-EUPW / G-EUPZ

A320CEO Fleet
Active (33) :
G-EUUA / G-EUUD / G-EUUE / G-EUUG / G-EUUI / G-EUUJ / G-EUUK / G-EUUO / G-EUUT / G-EUUV / G-EUUW / G-EUUX / G-EUUZ / G-EUYD / G-EUYG / G-EUYH / G-EUYJ / G-EUYL / G-EUYO / G-EUYP / G-EUYR / G-EUYS / G-EUYT / G-EUYU / G-EUYW / G-EUYX / G-EUYY / G-GATL / G-GATM / G-MIDO / G-MIDS / G-TTOB / G-TTOE

A320NEO Fleet
Active (17) :
G-TTNA / G-TTNB / G-TTNC / G-TTND / G-TTNE / G-TTNF / G-TTNG / G-TTNH / G-TTNI / G-TTNJ / G-TTNK / G-TTNL / G-TTNM / G-TTNN / G-TTNO / G-TTNP / G-TTNR

A321NEO Fleet
Active (10) :
G-NEOP / G-NEOR / G-NEOS / G-NEOT / G-NEOU / G-NEOV / G-NEOW / G-NEOX / G-NEOY / G-NEOZ

B788 Fleet
Active (12): G-ZBJA / G-ZBJB / G-ZBJC / G-ZBJD /G-ZBJE / G-ZBJF / G-ZBJG / G-ZBJH / G-ZBJI / G-ZBJJ / G-ZBJK / G-ZBJKM

B789 Fleet
Active (18): G-ZBKA / G-ZBKB / G-ZBKC / G-ZBKD / G-ZBKE / G-ZBKF / G-ZBKG / G-ZBKH / G-ZBKI / G-ZBKJ / G-ZBKK / G-ZBKL / G-ZBKM / G-ZBKN / G-ZBKO / G-ZBKP / G-ZBKR / G-ZBKS

B781 Fleet
Active (2): G-ZBLA / G-ZBLB

A351 Fleet
Active (8): G-XWBA / G-XWBB / G-XWBC / G-XWBD / G-XWBE / G-XWBF / G-XWBG / G-XWBH

A380 Fleet
Active (5): G-XLEA / G-XLED / G-XLEG / G-XLEI / G-XLEL
Stored/maintenance (1): G-XLEC

B777-200ER Fleet
Active (26) : G-YMMA / G-YMMD / G-YMMG / G-YMMH / G-YMMI / G-YMMJ / G-YMMN / G-YMMO / G-YMMP / G-YMMR / G-YMMS / G-YMMT / G-YMMU / G-RAES / G-VIIA / G-VIIB / G-VIIC / G-VIID / G-VIIE / G-VIIF / G-VIIG / G-VIIH / G-VIIJ / G-VIIM / G-VIIS / G-VIIY
Stored (1) : G-VIIL

B777-300ER Fleet
Active (15):
G-STBA / G-STBB / G-STBC / G-STBD / G-STBE / G-STBF / G-STBG / G-STBI / G-STBJ / G-STBK / G-STBL / G-STBM / G-STBN / G-STBO / G-STBP

Madrid (28):

A320CEO Fleet
Stored (8) :
G-GATH / G-GATJ / G-GATN / G-GATP / G-GATR / G-GATS / G-GATU / G-MIDX

A321CEO Fleet
Stored (18) :
G-EUXC / G-EUXD / G-EUXE / G-EUXF / G-EUXG / G-EUXH / G-EUXI / G-EUXJ / G-EUXK / G-EUXL / G-EUXM / G-MEDF / G-MEDG / G-MEDJ / G-MEDL / G-MEDM / G-MEDN / G-MEDU

A380 Fleet
Stored (2) :
G-XLEH / G-XLEK

Manila (2): (These aircraft are undergoing maintenance)

A380 Fleet
Stored (2) : G-XLEB / G-XLEF

Teruel (1):

B777-200ER Fleet
Stored (1) : G-VIIW

Abu Dhabi (1):

B777-200ER Fleet
Stored (1) :
G-VIIV
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BA Cityflyer

London City Airport:

E190 Fleet

Active (17) :
G-LCAB / G-LCAC / G-LCAD / G-LCAF / G-LCAG / G-LCAH / G-LCYJ / G-LCYK / G-LCYL / G-LCYM / G-LCYN / G-LCYO / G-LCYP / G-LCYR / G-LCYU / G-LCYW / G-LCYZ

Norwich (6):

E190 Fleet
Stored (6):
G-LCAA / G-LCAE / G-LCYS / G-LCYT / G-LCYV / G-LCYX
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Old Mar 13, 2020, 11:54 am
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Covid-19 : Where will BA park their planes?

G-LCYD/V and G-LCAB have gone to Norwich for storage.
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Old Mar 13, 2020, 3:57 pm
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I would imagine the 12 A380s would be the first to go as well as anything on a lease that can be returned. I wonder if the B744s might continue as fuel is cheap, they’re paid for and many recently refurbished. The non refurbs could go ASAP.
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Old Mar 13, 2020, 6:21 pm
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Originally Posted by skipness1E
I would imagine the 12 A380s would be the first to go as well as anything on a lease that can be returned. I wonder if the B744s might continue as fuel is cheap, they’re paid for and many recently refurbished. The non refurbs could go ASAP.
although if you're reducing capacity on a long haul route with two or three flights a day - the A380s might be a useful once a day plane ... depends how brutal the cuts are.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 2:23 am
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Originally Posted by skipness1E
I would imagine the 12 A380s would be the first to go as well as anything on a lease that can be returned. I wonder if the B744s might continue as fuel is cheap, they’re paid for and many recently refurbished. The non refurbs could go ASAP.
I suppose the question is what's cheaper to fly with say 100-150 passengers. Is it an old 744 or a modernish A380?

I think I read somewhere that cargo demand is holding up. Which may help keep the bigger planes flying, if rotations are being cut.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 2:47 am
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I think that it is likely that cuts will be made across all fleets in order that crew hours can be evened out. Imagine the effect on some of BA’s most senior captains if the whole A380 fleet was put into storage!
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by TedToToe
I think that it is likely that cuts will be made across all fleets in order that crew hours can be evened out. Imagine the effect on some of BA’s most senior captains if the whole A380 fleet was put into storage!
I think that BA would simply crunch the numbers about the best cashflow situation and go with that. I very much doubt that it would worry much about the feelings of the senior... In other words, it would probably do exactly the same as any other company in the same situation...
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 4:49 am
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I think that BA would simply crunch the numbers about the best cashflow situation and go with that. I very much doubt that it would worry much about the feelings of the senior... In other words, it would probably do exactly the same as any other company in the same situation...
I agree entirely, but they also have to consider coming out the other side with the vast majority of their crew with type ratings intact.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 7:14 am
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I agree entirely, but they also have to consider coming out the other side with the vast majority of their crew with type ratings intact.
I'd guess their simulators would be actively used to maintain their ratings...
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 9:54 am
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I would suspect that grounding a whole fleet (e.g. A380) has restart implications as mentioned above (not connected to the feelings of senior flight crew!)

As has been said, cargo is still in demand, so while it may look like smaller planes are better from a PAX demand situation, other factors come into play. I would definitely see this as an opportunity to get in front of the maintenance and other down-time operations waves, where that works and if the cash to do so is available.

I imagine the delay is some deliveries isn't so much of an issue right now!

Interesting times to be sure.

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Old Mar 14, 2020, 9:58 am
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I would suspect that grounding a whole fleet (e.g. A380) has restart implications as mentioned above (not connected to the feelings of senior flight crew!)

As has been said, cargo is still in demand, so while it may look like smaller planes are better from a PAX demand situation, other factors come into play. I would definitely see this as an opportunity to get in front of the maintenance and other down-time operations waves, where that works and if the cash to do so is available.

I imagine the delay is some deliveries isn't so much of an issue right now!

Interesting times to be sure.

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Yes indeed.

I cant see BA axing it’s A380s. They’re only around 6/7 years old and probably more efficient to operate than 747s. They would be useful in combining 2 777 or 2 747 flights when operating a reduced schedule.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:00 am
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G-LCYD/V and G-LCAB have gone to Norwich for storage.
G-LCYU/W and G-LCAA have also gone into storage at Norwich and Southend.

G-LCYG has also gone into Norwich maintenance.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 10:01 am
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Cargo demand has gone through the roof. Those airlines with pure freighters like Cathay and Cargolux cannot schedule enough sectors and don't have enough crew.
The B744's with their huge cargo capacity can just about break even without any passengers. Likewise for the B777's. Less so for the A380's.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 12:00 pm
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BA should seriously consider freight only flights on key pax routes, HKG,SIN,BOM,DEL and consider PVG again, Freight market is very lucrative at the moment with yields more than double out of China.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 12:28 pm
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BA should seriously consider freight only flights on key pax routes, HKG,SIN,BOM,DEL and consider PVG again, Freight market is very lucrative at the moment with yields more than double out of China.
BA have no pure freighters, and so cannot compete with those operators that do.
Lightly loaded passenger flights do however benefit from the underfloor freight contribution.
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Old Mar 14, 2020, 1:11 pm
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This Airliners.net posting suggests that Lufthansa is going to do exactly that - use empty passenger flights to fly cargo due to the demand and increased pricing for cargo space.
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