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BA Covid-19 Rebooking / Cancellation / Refund Help & Advice

If your flight is cancelled by BA:
Commercial booking: Your options are: cash refund OR Future Travel Voucher (FTV) OR rebooking OR Avios credit
Redemption booking: Your options are: full refund of cash and Avios OR FTV OR rebooking.
BA Holidays booking: You should be given a refund pro-actively.

If your flight is cancelled by BA - any flight in the PNR - you can get a full refund so long as you booked directly with BA. You can only get a refund by telephoning BA. Refunds are taking between a few hours to a few weeks to be repaid, depending on the sort of booking made. If you don't wish to travel you can opt for an FTV or eVoucher valid for travel until 30 April 2022, though flights more than 355 days away are not currently bookable - flights are enabled at 355 days before departure. Vouchers such as 2-4-1 are also thereby extended. You can do this even if the flight is operating. The best advice we can give is to delay opting for an eVoucher options until the last moment, since if BA cancel your flight you have more options. BA have also adjusted the Standard Customer Guidelines so that if BA cancel the flight you can be rebooked to anytime in 12 months after you originally bought the ticket, so long as there is space in the cabin - there is no need to have a fare bucket available or Avios availability. If you choose the Avios credit you will get between 108 to 126 Avios per GBP of your fare. Note older posts in this thread may now be inaccuarate since the current policy has been amended several times.
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If your flight is not cancelled but you don't wish to travel
Commercial booking: If you are eligible for Buy with Confidence, you can have an FTV valid until April 2022. Rebooking may lead to a fare recalculation but no change fee.
Redemption booking: Your can do the normal Avios refund, with the redeposit fee capped at GBP 35 per person. Alternatively for the same fee you can rebook to new dates subject to availability. Alternatively you can have an FTV.
BA Holidays booking: You may be get a refund proactively, otherwise you are looking at an FTV for at least the flight component of your trip, maybe for all components.

If all of the flights in your booking are still scheduled and you don't wish to travel then you best wait until a few days before departure in case there is a cancellation. As you can see above, a cancellation gives you better options. You are in scope with Buy with Confidence if you are flying between now and completing travel before 31 August 2021, also if you bought your ticket after 3 March and due to complete all flights before September 2021. The BA web page on this is:
ba.com/confidence
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Below are some of the options / workarounds being suggested in order to obtain a refund as opposed to a Future Travel Voucher, but they probably no longer work:

Refund of Cancelled Flights:
  • Call BA (no longer a requirement to be travelling in the next 72 hours, you may need to make repeated calls to get through). Telephone numbers are in this thread, but you can also find them on BA.com at the bottom left of the website, under Help and Contacts.

Paid Seating Refund:
Bookings made using Lloyds Upgrade Voucher
You should expect to receive:
  • Full refund of Avios and money paid
  • A new voucher issued, which has validity for 6 months (from the date of issue, i.e. when you request the 'refund')

Lloyds Upgrade Voucher Notes
  • Flights can be used within 12 months, so it will be good for travel up until the end 6 months plus 12 months if you book just before the new expiry
  • It's been advised to take the voucher instead of rebooking as it gives me more flexibility.
  • The original expiry date of the voucher was irrelevant because the booking was cancelled.
  • You must book within 6 months of the voucher being issued and the ticket has 12 months validity so you can change flights after, provided the new flights are within the 12 month window.
  • You won't receive any email, only the refund and the miles.
How to find out the status of your voucher and the amount it contains Future Travel Vouchers versus eVouchers
  • See posts 3052 and 3151 to understand the difference. FTVs cannot be used online (and are not really vouchers), whereas eVouchers, issued for simple bookings, can be used online.
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Old May 29, 2020, 12:17 pm
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I've had Stockholm flights cancelled (18/06-25/06). SAS are flying a daily flight between LHR-ARN, am I in a position to call up and request to be put on that flight or am I SOL because it's out of the 14 day period?
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Old May 29, 2020, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
Yes, you'll get another FTV for any residual, assuming it was a commercial booking. If it's under GBP 20 then instead you get a refund to the original form of payment. However (a) you could just leave it until you are more sure of dates (assuming the current Guidance holds) (b) take a cash refund or (c) take the Avios credit since TFS is usually good for Avios redemptions out of season. You will have to do the maths carefully to ensure that my hunch on the Avios credit is correct, which will depend in turn on your fare.
Thanks that gives me something to think about. At least it's not as decision which needs to be made immediately.

It would make the decision easier if there was a bonus credit being offered. A voucher of 125% of the booking would be a good gesture.
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Old May 29, 2020, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by James91
I've had Stockholm flights cancelled (18/06-25/06). SAS are flying a daily flight between LHR-ARN, am I in a position to call up and request to be put on that flight or am I SOL because it's out of the 14 day period?
I know of people being rebooked on other airlines yes, so by all means ring up and ask. We've only seen a few data points in this area so far, so it's difficult to be definitive about ths. BA resume ARN on 1 July.
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Old May 29, 2020, 3:08 pm
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Hi, I have a booking for which I have received and redeemed a FTV on a different itinerary (outbound departing late July) last week. Just wanted to ask if the change is protected under the BWC policy? So if I change my mind again am I entitled to another FTV? Thanks! HMA
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Old May 29, 2020, 3:22 pm
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Originally Posted by James91
I've had Stockholm flights cancelled (18/06-25/06). SAS are flying a daily flight between LHR-ARN, am I in a position to call up and request to be put on that flight or am I SOL because it's out of the 14 day period?
Per CWS I was offered alternative flight back from Split on LH connecting to BA. Was only offered one option on the same day (early morning) and one the following day (afternoon), so it’s possible you might be offered an indirect routing.

flight was over 3 weeks away when I called and had been cancelled for 3-4 weeks.
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Old May 29, 2020, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by HOLYMOLEAIR
Hi, I have a booking for which I have received and redeemed a FTV on a different itinerary (outbound departing late July) last week. Just wanted to ask if the change is protected under the BWC policy? So if I change my mind again am I entitled to another FTV? Thanks! HMA
Yes, you can get another FTV, that's specifically allowed. You may also be allowed another go at direct rebooking without fare difference, depending on the relevant dates of booking and proposed travel dates.
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Old May 29, 2020, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
I know of people being rebooked on other airlines yes, so by all means ring up and ask. We've only seen a few data points in this area so far, so it's difficult to be definitive about ths. BA resume ARN on 1 July.
Originally Posted by lorcancoyle
Per CWS I was offered alternative flight back from Split on LH connecting to BA. Was only offered one option on the same day (early morning) and one the following day (afternoon), so it’s possible you might be offered an indirect routing.

flight was over 3 weeks away when I called and had been cancelled for 3-4 weeks.
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I just called them and they refused to give me SK, but they did offer me Finnair. I said I was unsure as to the Finnish entry restrictions for transit passengers and he said it's one change only so to keep an eye on the entry restrictions to Finland and then call back.
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Old May 30, 2020, 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
About 2 hours before departure to be safe, it could be a little later (redemptions would have to be the day before however). This assumes the free rebook policy continues - 14 days was previously allowed - and note that with a cancellation you get the Avios credit as well as the FTV, cash and rebook options. I doubt in that route Avios would be good idea so only look at that if you do other Avios worthwhile routes. It also assumes you can contact BA in time. If it's the first flight cancelled then there is no panic, you have 6 years to claim your cash. In reality BA seem to cancel about 3 or 4 weeks out and a few at two weeks out. so 10 days before departure would be a good time to review this.
Thanks - and can you confirm that with a cancelled flight, BA would rebook the same route in the same cabin without any fare adjustments, even if booked through a TA?
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Old May 30, 2020, 1:44 am
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Originally Posted by ISTFlyer
Yes, rebookings are limited to 355 days out.
You could wait 9 days without touching your booking and rebook when the flight is available unless your flights are confirmed and operating within the next 9 days.
Originally Posted by weebit
An update on my query - I called BA just now (only an 8 minute wait, not bad!). You can indeed book JUST the outbound and wait for the return to come on sale later. Technically my flight isn't "booked" yet but rather reserved for me until the return portion is booked. Fingers crossed my preferred return flight is available when I go to book it!

Hello​, occasional browser but first time poster here.

Getting a bit confused over my options here but here's my situation:
Like weebit I currently have an Amex 2FOR1 redemption departing mid June and returning mid July in CW. The June outbound has been cancelled by BA. However unlike weebit I haven't taken any action thus far, so I believe I have the choice of refund, FTV or rebooking are available to me at this stage. The 2FOR1 voucher was originally meant to expire this September.

I'm ideally looking to rebook everything 364 days later. But could also consider May best year. What's the best course of action?

- I gather cancelling refunds avois and cash back to me but when does the 2FOR1 expire?
​​​​​- Does rebooking opens up non reward availability (presumably only on this route) but only for 355 days after outbound?
- If I wait until after departure (like IST suggests) don't I lose FTV rights? Can I still keep cancellation rights

​​​​​​​Basically I'm wondering if it's possible to attempt to rebook a year ahead but keep the option to rebook in May of availability isn't there

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Old May 30, 2020, 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by Family Guy
Thanks - and can you confirm that with a cancelled flight, BA would rebook the same route in the same cabin without any fare adjustments, even if booked through a TA?
BA would allow a TA to do this, the issue as I am sure you are aware is that TA's have an incentive to push you towards the BWC policy with the fare difference. As seen upthread, it's not helped that the BWC policy is easier to understand compared to the Coronovirus Update 4. It also depends on dates and other details, there are some restrictions on the free rebooking, but in broad terms BA would allow TAs to rebook with fare difference.
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Old May 30, 2020, 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by LethalNote
- I gather cancelling refunds avois and cash back to me but when does the 2FOR1 expire?
​​​​​- Does rebooking opens up non reward availability (presumably only on this route) but only for 355 days after outbound?
- If I wait until after departure (like IST suggests) don't I lose FTV rights? Can I still keep cancellation rights
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Welcome to Flyertalk LethalNote, and welcome to the BA forum. The free rebooking without need for redemption space is only on the same route AND it has to be within a year of the original booking, NOT the original departure date as implied by the second point above. From the way you asked the question I presume you booked weeks / months ago. So if you want to go a year later, you would need to look at the FTV and look for Avios space as well, which on many routes is currently wide open. You don't lose your FTV rights if the first flight is cancelled, you just need to avoid being a no-show on the first sector, however as you can see this doesn't help you. If instead you go for bullet one, a cash refund, then the Companion Voucher would be extended by 6 months, and you could rebook before that new expiry for flights after that expiry. Looking at this the FTV approach seems best for what you want to do specifically, but generally you would have more flexibility on the cash refund, notably if you were looking at other destinations instead.
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Old May 30, 2020, 3:32 am
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Hi everyone, id be grateful for some advice here, fully open to the fact that i may have messed up so don't go too hard on me if thats the case.

I made reservations for Christmas using avios about a month ago on AA for US internal flights, 7,500 avios + Ł4.60 taxes, I have since changed my albeit speculative plans and went through the online cancellation process and i was expecting to get my avios back and lose the cash element. All thats happened is i received future travel vouchers and no refund of the avios (its been three days since i cancelled).

When i try and make a dummy booking to see how much the FTV's are worth it comes back with an error message saying to check the details as the vouchers are unrecognised, i can't see a way to check what these vouchers are worth or if they are valid at all.

I was on hold for about 30 mins the other day before giving up when trying to make a new holiday cash booking so i'm keen to avoid being on hold for hours just to be told i've lost out. Any advice would be appreciated...
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Old May 30, 2020, 3:39 am
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Originally Posted by snevillio
When i try and make a dummy booking to see how much the FTV's are worth it comes back with an error message saying to check the details as the vouchers are unrecognised, i can't see a way to check what these vouchers are worth or if they are valid at all.

I was on hold for about 30 mins the other day before giving up when trying to make a new holiday cash booking so i'm keen to avoid being on hold for hours just to be told i've lost out. Any advice would be appreciated...
I think you may have put this in the wrong thread, and the main Covid-19 thread has a wiki which explains the situation. But in short since you have an Avios FTV, it will be worth whatever you spent in Avios and cash on the initial transaction. The main thread also outlines that you can't check the value online, nor can you use the FTV online. But in essence, when you are ready to book again, call BAEC and you can book a new redemption and the FTV will knock 7.500 Avios and Ł4.60 off the bill. It can be any redemption, it doesn't have to be on AA. You can't readily use the FTV on a BA Holidays cash booking since there is not much cash in the FTV.
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Old May 30, 2020, 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
Welcome to Flyertalk LethalNote, and welcome to the BA forum. The free rebooking without need for redemption space is only on the same route AND it has to be within a year of the original booking, NOT the original departure date as implied by the second point above. From the way you asked the question I presume you booked weeks / months ago. So if you want to go a year later, you would need to look at the FTV and look for Avios space as well, which on many routes is currently wide open. You don't lose your FTV rights if the first flight is cancelled, you just need to avoid being a no-show on the first sector, however as you can see this doesn't help you. If instead you go for bullet one, a cash refund, then the Companion Voucher would be extended by 6 months, and you could rebook before that new expiry for flights after that expiry. Looking at this the FTV approach seems best for what you want to do specifically, but generally you would have more flexibility on the cash refund, notably if you were looking at other destinations instead.
Thanks, so just to confirm FTV the 2for1 is essentially extended until April 2022 (but I can only make new 2for1 redemption bookings with the FTV voucher)
If I refund then can use the Avois and cash how I wish, but 2for1 will expire in Mar 2021 (current expiry plus 6 months)
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Old May 30, 2020, 4:33 am
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Originally Posted by LethalNote
Thanks, so just to confirm FTV the 2for1 is essentially extended until April 2022 (but I can only make new 2for1 redemption bookings with the FTV voucher)
If I refund then can use the Avois and cash how I wish, but 2for1 will expire in Mar 2021 (current expiry plus 6 months)
Yes to the second sentence, assuming the Companion Voucher has not already been extended. And partly yes to the first sentence, one option is to do as you suggest. If you don't use the Companion Voucher with the new FTV booking then as I understand it the Companion Voucher is then returned to your account with the March date. But that is somewhat theoretical, if you were going FTV I guess you would do so on the basis of making a booking with the Avios and Companion Voucher at some point before April 2022.
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