FlyBE LHR slots returned to BA

Old Mar 9, 20, 8:51 am
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FlyBE LHR slots returned to BA

Apparently, FlyBE's LHR slots have returned to BA according to this tweet and ACL's slot swap sheet:


https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...-S20-BE-BA.pdf

So what is BA going to do with the slots?
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Old Mar 9, 20, 9:16 am
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BA must be thrilled by the timing.

I am correct in thinking that T5 is at capacity?
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Old Mar 9, 20, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by BA6948 View Post
Apparently, FlyBE's LHR slots have returned to BA according to this tweet and ACL's slot swap sheet:

https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status...599096321?s=20
https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...-S20-BE-BA.pdf

So what is BA going to do with the slots?
I imagine we'll see a new route - LHR-LGW
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Old Mar 9, 20, 9:18 am
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The only thing Iíd say is that BA have a longer term vision and can cope with a few unwanted slots for a month or two. Itíll mean they get extra slots for later in the year which will be useful.
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on the date range, it says from 11th May. Have they got some alleviation from the beginning of the summer season to then?
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LHR - LCY would be nice.
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Brilliant timing. BA must be delighted.

I wonder if they'll run something purely to keep competitors out if the slot rules aren't relaxed?
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Old Mar 9, 20, 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by BAeuro View Post
The only thing Iíd say is that BA have a longer term vision and can cope with a few unwanted slots for a month or two. Itíll mean they get extra slots for later in the year which will be useful.
Unless another airline asks to use the slots. It must be a nightmare for BA to have those slots. They should be ready to use them (fleet, crews, etc.) as soon as they get them but then they should release them as soon as someone else wants them.
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Old Mar 9, 20, 9:30 am
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Does this mean that those slots immediately become part of the 'use it or lose it' allowance? If so, ouch!
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Old Mar 9, 20, 9:31 am
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LHR-JER? We have plenty of gate availability after BE’s demise.

Whether it would ever prove profitable is a different question. It was tried before by BMI. I doubt BA could fill an A319 on a daily basis - do they have anything smaller and spare? Or might they lease something suitable? And yet there must be a tourist market from the west of London?

An early and late rotation to connect to TATL? Do we really need 5-a-day to LGW? One can dream.
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Previously, when BA were unclear of the permanence of these exact slots, they wet leased a 737 (Jet Time IIRC) to do some slot sitting. Times are obviously different now, given that wet leases are likely to be covering Max operators! Could BA be forced into keeping some of those A319s a little longer?
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Old Mar 9, 20, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by squawk View Post
Does this mean that those slots immediately become part of the 'use it or lose it' allowance? If so, ouch!
Exactly my question - if so then ouch! Have to say I expected a quicker relaxation on the use it or lose it rule in light of the climate movement - easy way for the regulators to allow a quick win [let alone that many airlines are likely to need all the help they can get to stay alive!].
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Old Mar 9, 20, 10:15 am
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Does this mean that those slots immediately become part of the 'use it or lose it' allowance? If so, ouch!
The "use it or lose it" rules are likely to be significantly relaxed, at least in the short term, due to the current Covid19 crisis.

(They have already been relaxed for flights to/from China & Hong Kong)
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Old Mar 9, 20, 10:27 am
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My guess be that they rapidly increase U.K. domestic flying in the short term as that will mainly fill the void left by flybe. ABZ, INV, EDI, GLA, BHD and MAN can fairly easily absorb additional rotations especially once the current Heath issues start to subside.

there is also the possibility that BA could well tender to operate the recently vacated pso, for which I admit x4 daily on an a319 is probably too much, however I donít think that the wording states all 4 rotations per day have to be operated to the same airport so potentially they could do x2 LHR, & 1 each for LCY & LGW and I think still meet the terms of the pso contract.

the other option would be to contract stk in a similar way that EI use them ex DUB.......

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If BA want something smaller than a 319, I assume that FlyBE's fleet is up for grabs?
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