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Old Feb 28, 2020, 9:30 am
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WikiPost currently includes info on China inc Hong Kong, Singapore and Italy. As and when new/updated information becomes available, we would welcome your input in updating it.
Information resources (e.g. links of entry restrictions/quarantine requirements) are provided at the bottom of Wiki.


29 Feb 2020: List of routes with cancellations from 13 March to 28 March: PKX, PVG, HKG, SIN, LIN, ICN, VRN, BGY, BLQ, TRN, VCE.
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In the case of PKX and PVG there are no services, for the other locations it's up to 50% of services.)

BA Book with Confidence Policy
BA have instigated a policy of bookings made on or after 3 March 2020 with zero change fees. Initially this policy will expire end of 31 16 March 2020. Details can be found in this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...ce-policy.html
Note.. despite the official start date of 3 March for this policy, at least one FT-er has advised that a booking on 2 March also attracted zero change fees.
BA has now expanded the book with confidence policy to expire 31 March 2020. Starting date of 3 March 2020 is unchanged.
China inc HKG
BA have cancelled all flights to PKX (Beijing/Peking) and PVG (Shanghai Pu Dong) "until 19 April 2020".

BA frequency to HKG has been reduced with effect from 13 February 2020 - see below for further details. From HKG, Cathay is running a heavily reduced schedule to mainland destinations until the end of March.

If you are due to fly to PKX, PVG and your flight is cancelled then you have refund, re-route and rebook options. BA can rebook on to several other airlines.
If you are due to fly to Hong Kong until 1st April you have refund and rebook options.
If you are transiting into mainland China you are also covered as above.
If you are transiting internationally (e.g. LHR-HKG-SYD) you are not able to move your flights, unless they are cancelled anyway.
The latest ba.com update was on 21 February 2020 at 1510.

More information on the advice of Her Majesty's Government about travel and health is on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office website.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china

For the Special Administration Regions of Hong Kong and Macao:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/macao

Summary from IATA of all travel restrictions due to Coronavirus as added to TIMATIC https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm


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HKG frequency reductions (as of 1330 on 21 February 2020, all dates inclusive).

LHR-HKG

From Thu 13.02.2020 to Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (380).

Exceptions:-
  • Tue 18.02.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
  • Tue 10.03.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
  • Mon 27.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 28.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Wed 29.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Thu 30.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 11.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 12.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 18.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 19.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Sun 24.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 25.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 26.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).
In addition, on Mon 08.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).

HKG-LHR

From Fri 14.02.2020 to Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (380).

Exceptions:-
  • Wed 19.02.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
  • Wed 11.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
  • Sun 29.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 28.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 29.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Thu 30.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Fri 01.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 12.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 13.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 19.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 20.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Mon 25.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 26.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 27.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).
In addition, on Tue 09.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).

Note: Schedule changes take effect on Sun 29.03.2020 in both directions.

Italy
BA has issued a Customer Guideline Update 1 for travel to the north of Italy, defined as:
LIN/MXP – Milan
TRN – Turin
BLQ – Bologna
VCE – Venice
BGY – Bergamo
VRN - Verona

Tickets issued by 24 February can be changed. If they are dated for original travel on 25 February – 02 March 2020, they can now be moved to 25 February – 31 March 2020. Alternatively changed to ZRH or GVA (note some of these services will be running very full at this time of the year). Refunds not allowed, redemptions are in scope for change.
Update: Travelling 29 Feb to 15 March can now change date of travel and postpone to up to the 3 Apr or change airport to Geneva or Zurich. Rredemptions included but refunds still not included

Further details:
Key Message
The following guidelines have been published to assist any customer who may wish to change their travel date for Northern Italy.
Advice for British Airways-125 ticketed customers whose BA, IB, AY or AA flight is still OPERATING

Rebook onto: British Airways or AJB

Airports affected - To/From
LIN/MXP – Milan
TRN – Turin
BLQ – Bologna
VCE – Venice
BGY – Bergamo
VRN - Verona

Tickets issued by: 24 February 2020
Ticket travel dates: 25 February – 02 March 2020
New travel dates: 25 February – 31 March 2020

Rebooking Allowance: Rebook into the same class as the original flight or lowest available in the same cabin

Change of gateway: Rebook onto a British Airways operated service to/from ZRH (Zurich) or GVA (Geneva) and London (any airport) into the same class as the original flight or lowest available in the same cabin. Must advise the customer that any consequential cost to travel between the original and the new Swiss gateway, e.g. surface transport, hotels, etc. are at their expense. Add a remark into the booking stating that you have advised this. Visas may also need to be checked to travel into Switzerland.

Origin/Destination/Stopover changes: Yes – as above
Refunds Allowed: No
Redemptions included: Yes
Available for Trade: Yes

Important Information
One involuntary ticket change allowed from the above options
Includes any connecting BA/Joint Business services on the same ticket
For customers on cancelled flights, please follow the standard customer guidelines >
· Adherence to commercial policies/standard customer guidelines remains entirely the responsibility of the user. BA reserves the right to withdraw guidelines at any time
Singapore
BA11 has been cancelled on March 15, 17, 19, 21, 23 and 25, and corresponding returns on BA12 (the next day) have been cancelled.

Information Resources
Travel restrictions by country
IATA's central list of restrictions relating to Covid-19 is here:
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm

Australian government site for visit/transit restrictions for various countries after visiting certain countries (not just for Australians, as it lists countries visited/transited etc.). It includes information that is missing from IATA list too.
https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/

11 March 2020:
For people who are based in the US, the US CDC travel warning for Schengen zone has been updated to Level 3 "Avoid nonessential travel".
https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices...navirus-europe

In addition, US Department of State have updated the global travel advisory to Level 3 "Reconsider Travel.
https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...ory-issue.html

This may affect your travel insurance cover (or enable you to claim back the cost of cancellation).






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Old Mar 9, 2020, 4:02 pm
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So will travel insurance now kick in for Rome? I have avios flights and a non cancellable hotel for the rugby that has been cancelled this weekend. Also had connecting flights and LHR hotel but will probably still use those.
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Old Mar 9, 2020, 4:05 pm
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So will travel insurance now kick in for Rome? I have avios flights and a non cancellable hotel for the rugby that has been cancelled this weekend. Also had connecting flights and LHR hotel but will probably still use those.
not sure on travel insurance but I would expect an update from ba by lunch tmrw, but no matter what on the Avios flights at least worst case scenario is you can cancel and not lose much cash
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Old Mar 9, 2020, 4:06 pm
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Has anyone checked the position on multi-city itineraries that touch an affected area after 4 April - i.e. for instance, you leave your initial point of origin late March but don't hit MXP until, for instance, April 10?
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Old Mar 9, 2020, 4:09 pm
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Has anyone checked the position on multi-city itineraries that touch an affected area after 4 April - i.e. for instance, you leave your initial point of origin late March but don't hit MXP until, for instance, April 10?
that would class as a travel date to mxp on 10th so outside the current policy so usual t and cs apply
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Old Mar 9, 2020, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by Hawk777
not sure on travel insurance but I would expect an update from ba by lunch tmrw, but no matter what on the Avios flights at least worst case scenario is you can cancel and not lose much cash
The hotel is the main lost cost which is why travel insurance needs to apply- the flights were Ł100 plus avios. The connecting flights and LHR hotels were about Ł500 but we can probably still use those. .

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Old Mar 9, 2020, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Hawk777
that would class as a travel date to mxp on 10th so outside the current policy so usual t and cs apply
Thank you.
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New update for Italy refund for all destinations or rebook for travel up to 4 april
Key Message – Updates in red

The following guidelines have been published to assist any customer who may wish to change their travel date for Northern Italy.



Advice for British Airways-125 ticketed customers whose BA flight is still OPERATING or is CANCELLED

Rebook onto

British Airways

Airports affected

To/From

All airports in Italy

Tickets issued by

08 March 2020

Ticket travel dates

Up to and including 04 April 2020

New travel dates

Up to and including 31May 2020

Rebooking Allowance

Rebook into the same class as the original flight or lowest available in the same cabin

Change of gateway (1)

Rebook onto a British Airways operated service to/from ZRH (Zurich) or GVA (Geneva) and London (any airport) into the same class as the original flight or lowest available in the same cabin.



Must advise the customer that any consequential cost to travel between the original and the new Swiss gateway, e.g. surface transport, hotels, etc. are at their expense. Add a remark into the booking stating that you have advised this.

Visas may also need to be checked to travel into Switzerland.

Origin/Destination/Stopover changes

Yes – as above

Refunds Allowed

Yes

Redemptions included

Yes

Available for Trade

Yes

Important Information
  • one involuntary ticket change allowed from the above options
  • Includes any connecting BA/Joint Business services on the same ticket
  • If changing both outbound and return sectors, travel must be completed by dates specified
  • For customers on cancelled flights, please follow the standard Customer Handling Guidelines > Flight Cancellations
  • Adherence to commercial policies/conditions of carriage guidelines remains entirely the responsibility of the user. BA reserves the right to withdraw guidelines at any time

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Old Mar 9, 2020, 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
The Foreign and Commonwealth Office have now advised against all but essential travel to Lombardy and the related areas in Emilia Romagna, Marche, Piemonte and Veneto (Venice).

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/italy
Further to this, the FCO has now advised against all but essential travel to all Italy. In addition to Update 7 above, I would expect all BA services to Italy to stop within the next day or so.
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Old Mar 9, 2020, 5:21 pm
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In Italy skiing at the moment, well not anymore as our resort is now shut. Thankfully on a package so not our issue to sort out the flights home. We flew out via gatwick on BA and currently the tour op are saying we fly home on Wednesday from Verona with BA. Hoping BA keep those flights to get everyone home but the situation is constantly changing, only a few hours ago we could ski tomorrow before the shutdown
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Old Mar 9, 2020, 5:38 pm
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Yes, among the problems BA will have is that they would have to work out a new set of crew hour rotas if the crew cannot enter Israel - crew would either have to fly on to LCA or be double crewed from London.
I agree that’s what BA would do, even for MF, but of course easyJet and Wizzair operate there and back in a day under the same EASA rules, so it can’t be essential to find an alternative.
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Old Mar 9, 2020, 11:21 pm
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My wife is due to fly back from TLV on Friday. Wants to come back before the lockdown but BA won’t change her flight without a fee. So much for being proactive... doubt their flights will have anyone on them post Thursday.
Just to clarify, your wife will not have to go into quarantine even if she does stay in Israel till Friday.
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Old Mar 9, 2020, 11:46 pm
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Just cancelled flights to Italy last night for some measly taxes back (as hotel cancelled on me).

Now it seems I could have got the whole amount refunded - damn!
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Old Mar 10, 2020, 12:11 am
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Originally Posted by clubman
Just to clarify, your wife will not have to go into quarantine even if she does stay in Israel till Friday.
Sure it’s just if BA suddenly cancel their flights she will get stuck over there.
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Old Mar 10, 2020, 12:31 am
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I'd advise people who are thinking of cancelling flights to anywhere until the last minute (at least 24 hours before for Avios bookings) unless it's a fully flex ticket that you are happy with whatever small-ish fees you may incur. Obviously, if your cancellation costs increase as it gets closer, it's something to consider, but do hold tight, in most cases, and do it as close as possible to the actual time of travel.

It's a fast moving situation and it's pretty likely that more cancellations will occur, or FCO advice or your foreign equivalent will be implemented, resulting in flight cancellations etc. or otherwise covered by your travel insurance. I'm guessing that BA will now be cancelling flights to/from Italy too, and maybe other destinations as passenger load drops off.

Also note that a lot of hotels and hotel chains are waiving the cancellation fees for certain locations, so do check their latest policy before cancelling.

You should also keep your eye on potential "hot spots" to avoid being barred from entry to your next destination, or to have quarantine/self-isolation requirements imposed on you. Such requirements may not be covered by your travel insurance, and consequential loss that you may suffer from being unable to go to work is probably not covered either. (Also think about the risk of carrying the virus back to your elderly acquaintances and those more vulnerable before going ahead with the trip, but that's a bit OT so I won't go into detail).

Finally, no-one said anything about risk-management-by-upgrade before, so, if you decide to go ahead with your trip, I'd suggest that if you are offered an opportunity of a cheap upgrade like POU, AUP or Avios upgrade, especially long haul, and the lower class looks busy-ish, then you might like to take the opportunity to upgrade. In fact I couldn't think of a better reason to upgrade than recommended social distancing (then again though, I have been hearing of very empty aircraft down the back, so you might find it affords you the supposed 2+2 row safety margin and lie-flat seats down the back )

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Old Mar 10, 2020, 4:04 am
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BA cancels flights to Italy

As the title says, BA have canceled all flights to Italy today. Presumably this will be on going.
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