Court of Appeal halts LHR third runway
Feb 27, 2020, 3:53 am
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Not surprised. Double standards though. Courts block a desperately needed 3rd runway. Meantime HS2, which will go down as the most expensive waste of public money in history, goes unchallenged in the courts and full steam ahead.
Feb 27, 2020, 3:54 am
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out and affects BA strategy. I wonder if they will regret not picking up more A380’s while they were available. It is possibly more likely to see additional A321’s for additional short haul capacity in the future. Or, they could simply hike prices.
In the meantime though, IAG will be laughing all the way to the bank given they will continue to dominate LHR for the foreseeable future.
In the meantime though, IAG will be laughing all the way to the bank given they will continue to dominate LHR for the foreseeable future.
Feb 27, 2020, 3:56 am
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We desperately need runway capacity in London and it is not going to get built at LHR, at least whilst this PM is in power. So it could be 10 years before we even go back to the drawing board on LHR expansion.
Far better to start looking at new runways and terminals at LGW. Hugely inconvenient for me to have to go to LGW and I would much rather see LHR expansion go ahead. But we have to be realistic now.....
Far better to start looking at new runways and terminals at LGW. Hugely inconvenient for me to have to go to LGW and I would much rather see LHR expansion go ahead. But we have to be realistic now.....
Feb 27, 2020, 3:57 am
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I'm starting to worry about London's status as a global business and transport hub.
This is going to affect LHR in the future, especially if coupled with potential ESTA-like visas to be imposed on visiting (or transferring!) passengers. Add the incredibly stupid decision of having HS2 passing within 20 km of LHR without stopping and the uncertain times for UK trade in services with the continent... it'll really dampen London's competitiveness.
This is going to affect LHR in the future, especially if coupled with potential ESTA-like visas to be imposed on visiting (or transferring!) passengers. Add the incredibly stupid decision of having HS2 passing within 20 km of LHR without stopping and the uncertain times for UK trade in services with the continent... it'll really dampen London's competitiveness.
Feb 27, 2020, 3:59 am
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Will HAL finally get their act together and provide the money to build the Southern and Western Rail Links? If the issues is carbon emissions associated with the overall facility I'd have thought making everyone not in Central london drive to the ariport can't exactly be help your argument.
Feb 27, 2020, 4:07 am
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Feb 27, 2020, 4:18 am
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This is a private project funded by the private sector. No tax revenue is being invested here. It is for Heathrow airport to appeal and demonstrate that the proposal will meet the requirements of the Paris agreement?
Feb 27, 2020, 4:21 am
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For those who are interested in the legal and evidential arguments, here is a summary of both Judgments of the Court of Appeal together with the texts of the full judgments. There were four appeals related to the Heathrow expansion:
Summary of both Appeals: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/...ne-version.pdf
Judgment in the Appeal brought by Heathrow Hub Limited and Runway Innovations Limited: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/...ruary-2020.pdf
Judgment in the Appeals brought by Friends of the Earth, Plan B Earth and others: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/...ruary-2020.pdf
Summary of both Appeals: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/...ne-version.pdf
Judgment in the Appeal brought by Heathrow Hub Limited and Runway Innovations Limited: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/...ruary-2020.pdf
Judgment in the Appeals brought by Friends of the Earth, Plan B Earth and others: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/...ruary-2020.pdf
Feb 27, 2020, 4:27 am
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It will be interesting to see how this plays out and affects BA strategy. I wonder if they will regret not picking up more A380’s while they were available. It is possibly more likely to see additional A321’s for additional short haul capacity in the future. Or, they could simply hike prices.
In the meantime though, IAG will be laughing all the way to the bank given they will continue to dominate LHR for the foreseeable future.
In the meantime though, IAG will be laughing all the way to the bank given they will continue to dominate LHR for the foreseeable future.
Feb 27, 2020, 4:48 am
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Probably a relief for the government since they now don't have to spend a few more years messing around and not building it.
Presumably Gatwick is now out as well then given the reasons for refusal.
Presumably Gatwick is now out as well then given the reasons for refusal.
Feb 27, 2020, 4:52 am
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The judgement doesn't kill R3, it just means the government must reivse the Airports National Policy Statement to take account of the Paris Agreement. I can imagine there are all manor of fudges that could be included to meet this requirement, if the government wants to.
Feb 27, 2020, 5:03 am
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I'm starting to worry about London's status as a global business and transport hub.
This is going to affect LHR in the future, especially if coupled with potential ESTA-like visas to be imposed on visiting (or transferring!) passengers. Add the incredibly stupid decision of having HS2 passing within 20 km of LHR without stopping and the uncertain times for UK trade in services with the continent... it'll really dampen London's competitiveness.
This is going to affect LHR in the future, especially if coupled with potential ESTA-like visas to be imposed on visiting (or transferring!) passengers. Add the incredibly stupid decision of having HS2 passing within 20 km of LHR without stopping and the uncertain times for UK trade in services with the continent... it'll really dampen London's competitiveness.
And for BA, well, it is not good news. It is juts a matter of time it is overtaken by KL and AF.
Feb 27, 2020, 5:07 am
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The Government don't need to appeal to the Supreme Court
They can - if they wanted to - pass a 'not withstanding' one line bill that disapplies the climate legislation as far as LHR expansion is concerned.
They can - if they wanted to - pass a 'not withstanding' one line bill that disapplies the climate legislation as far as LHR expansion is concerned.
