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What would happen to BA's SYD route if they stop flying to SIN?

What would happen to BA's SYD route if they stop flying to SIN?

Old Feb 6, 20, 11:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Crampedin13A View Post
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Forgot about the Fifth Freedom thing.
BA could not doubt arrange a technical stop somewhere to fuel up (splash and dash)
But getting traffic rights from LHR to XXX and XXX to SYD is another matter. XXX to SYD would/could be hard

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Old Feb 7, 20, 2:50 am
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Surely a refund option would be legally required, but I'd be more interested in whether BA would reroute on other carriers.

EC261/2004 applies if the journey starts at LHR (at least during the Implementation Period).
According to article 8 the operating carrier must rebook the passenger if the passenger elects that option.
That obligation cannot be waived away due to extraordinary circumstances (e.g. government action due to Coronavirus).

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Old Feb 7, 20, 3:00 am
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Originally Posted by warakorn View Post
EC261/2004 applies if the journey starts at LHR (at least during the Implementation Period).
According to article 8 the operating carrier must rebook the passenger if the passenger elects that option.
That obligation cannot be waived away due to extraordinary circumstances (e.g. government action due to Coronavirus).
Unless they cancel more than two weeks before departure.
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Old Feb 7, 20, 3:01 am
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi View Post
BA could not doubt arrange a technical stop somewhere to fuel up (splash and dash)
But getting traffic rights from LHR to XXX and XXX to SYD is another matter. XXX to SYD would/could be hard

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But they wouldn't only need fuel, they'd need to recater as well.
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Old Feb 7, 20, 3:08 am
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Originally Posted by flatlander View Post
LHR-(BA)-BKK-(QF)-SYD
LHR-(BA)-KUL-(MH)-SYD
LHR-(QF)-PER-(QF)-SYD
etc

BA can keep it in the family.

If the coronapanic goes on much further, I can see the LHR-PER route becoming popular with a certain subset of people.
I love that term coronapanic. Mask companies are raking it in, even if 90% of masks wouldn't be effective. I also suspect that many people wearing mask that think that the masks are their saviour aren't following the more sensible advice on hand hygiene. When I arrived in Seoul (getting over a chest infection which got me plenty of concerned looks when coughing - i declared I had a cough and laryngitis as a result of all the coughing before) there were lots of Americans wearing normal dust masks.
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Old Feb 7, 20, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by Passmethesickbag View Post
But they wouldn't only need fuel, they'd need to recater as well.
And re-crew....probably the most important part of the stop!!!
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Old Feb 7, 20, 11:41 am
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Given there is already a JBA on certain UK-Oz city pairs with QR I'd imagine they'd rebook people onto QR metal via DOH
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Old Feb 7, 20, 11:45 am
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Given there is already a JBA on certain UK-Oz city pairs with QR I'd imagine they'd rebook people onto QR metal via DOH
that would be my guess. Why set up an alternate transit point when you can put the traffic on a shareholders planes?
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Old Feb 7, 20, 12:42 pm
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So if they stop the SIN, SYD and HKG flights, what will they do with the aircraft. My guess is A380 will operate BA209 to MIA.
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Old Feb 7, 20, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by richardwft View Post
So if they stop the SIN, SYD and HKG flights, what will they do with the aircraft. My guess is A380 will operate BA209 to MIA.
My suspicion is to DOH and DXB. Maybe also HND.
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Old Feb 7, 20, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Passmethesickbag View Post
Maybe also HND.
This one likely wouldn't be allowed, unfortunately.
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Old Feb 7, 20, 1:00 pm
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This one likely wouldn't be allowed, unfortunately.
Why not? ANA does. https://onemileatatime.com/ana-a380-honolulu/
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Old Feb 7, 20, 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Passmethesickbag View Post
To NRT.
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OT/

there’s been some dramas with QF trying to put an A380 on the HND route as a replacement for the 747. AIUI HND will take a380s but heavily restrict which slots they’re allowed to land in

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there was a woman on my BNE-CBR yesterday (2 cities with 0 confirmed or suspected cases) who was insistent on wearing an incredibly ill fitting FFP3 mask although she took it off to eat and interact with the cabin crew
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Old Feb 7, 20, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by alexwuk View Post
Given there is already a JBA on certain UK-Oz city pairs with QR I'd imagine they'd rebook people onto QR metal via DOH
No there isn’t. Two weeks ago an application was lodged with various competition authorities to ask them to allow a UK-Australia JB. These things tend to take longer than a fortnight to be approved, set up and implemented.

BA and QR *can* come to some sort of rebooking arrangement on these routes, the same as any two airlines anywhere can, but in the normal way and subject to normal commercial terms. It will not be automatic acceptance.
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