BA First Helicopter Ride - QC [Quebec, Canada] Lawsuit
Jan 27, 2020, 3:29 pm
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Jan 27, 2020, 3:34 pm
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I have a question. Did the OP ACTUALLY PURCHASE the Helicopter flight? Was there an actual expense of "$2587.07"? (Which seems VERY high for the service described) Is the OP seeking reimbursement for having to pay for something that should have been complimentary...or did he happily use OTHER transportation and is seeking a windfall rather than actual costs?
Jan 27, 2020, 3:36 pm
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Here’s the last time it came up.
Flying BA First? Get your helicopter!
OP redacted their first post. Wonder why.....
Flying BA First? Get your helicopter!
OP redacted their first post. Wonder why.....
Jan 27, 2020, 3:42 pm
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Also from the link posted by the OP:
”The Defendant stating, in its Contestation, that the Plaintiff is not a consumer - but a business owner whose business is concerned with taking advantage of rewards points programs and similar programs and assisting others, for a fee, to do the same. “
”The Defendant stating, in its Contestation, that the Plaintiff is not a consumer - but a business owner whose business is concerned with taking advantage of rewards points programs and similar programs and assisting others, for a fee, to do the same. “
Jan 27, 2020, 3:43 pm
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What did your original post in this thread say? - Flying BA First? Get your helicopter!
Did you successfully sue BA for the 'mistake' fare in 2017?
And does the Canadian Mint let you purchase from them again yet?
Did you successfully sue BA for the 'mistake' fare in 2017?
And does the Canadian Mint let you purchase from them again yet?
Jan 27, 2020, 3:44 pm
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Posted without comment. Decision on BA’s motion to dismiss and transfer to other jurisdiction. Both motions denied and case will proceed to trial.
Factual basis is international tariff (Canada or USA) includes provision that free helicopter ride given to First Class passengers arriving at JFK. Agreed facts are that plaintiff (myself) requested service and was denied.
https://www.canlii.org/en/qc/qccq/do...&resultIndex=1
Factual basis is international tariff (Canada or USA) includes provision that free helicopter ride given to First Class passengers arriving at JFK. Agreed facts are that plaintiff (myself) requested service and was denied.
https://www.canlii.org/en/qc/qccq/do...&resultIndex=1
Either way, I’m rooting for BA to come down hard on you here and take you to the cleaners on this; a clear waste of the legal system, and, I also hope you have full costs awarded against you.
Jan 27, 2020, 3:51 pm
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Also from the link posted by the OP:
”The Defendant stating, in its Contestation, that the Plaintiff is not a consumer - but a business owner whose business is concerned with taking advantage of rewards points programs and similar programs and assisting others, for a fee, to do the same. “
”The Defendant stating, in its Contestation, that the Plaintiff is not a consumer - but a business owner whose business is concerned with taking advantage of rewards points programs and similar programs and assisting others, for a fee, to do the same. “
What did your original post in this thread say? - Flying BA First? Get your helicopter!
Did you successfully sue BA for the 'mistake' fare in 2017?
And does the Canadian Mint let you purchase from them again yet?
Did you successfully sue BA for the 'mistake' fare in 2017?
And does the Canadian Mint let you purchase from them again yet?
I'm awaiting judgment on the mistake fare lawsuit, which should come out any day now. I'll certainly be sharing it.
Re: Mint, the program ended before it went public so it wasn't an issue.
Well having read this tariff (which is clearly out date and not a contract) I conclude perhaps through some obscure Canadian law you have a claim as surely it would have been thrown out. More worryingly; this reeks of you knowing about this in advance purely to make a claim.
Either way, I’m rooting for BA to come down hard on you here and take you to the cleaners on this; a clear waste of the legal system, and, I also hope you have full costs awarded against you.
Either way, I’m rooting for BA to come down hard on you here and take you to the cleaners on this; a clear waste of the legal system, and, I also hope you have full costs awarded against you.
Jan 27, 2020, 3:52 pm
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Doubtful. The tariff quoted applied to published fares. Redemptions fall into the category of unpublished fares
Jan 27, 2020, 3:53 pm
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The timing of this thread is quite unfortunate, given the recent tragic news of a loss of 9 people, 1 of which an extremely influential person. My thoughts go out to them and their loved ones.
And in another story, I met a senior aviation lawyer for a multinational avionics company who told me very bluntly and plainly don’t ever fly in a helicopter...! It was a random meeting but a piece of advice that has always stuck with me.
Anyway I’m still not sure the purpose of this thread. But I’d stay away from helicopters. (My own opinion)
And in another story, I met a senior aviation lawyer for a multinational avionics company who told me very bluntly and plainly don’t ever fly in a helicopter...! It was a random meeting but a piece of advice that has always stuck with me.
Anyway I’m still not sure the purpose of this thread. But I’d stay away from helicopters. (My own opinion)
Jan 27, 2020, 3:54 pm
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Well having read this tariff (which is clearly out date, yet someone how valid? and not a contract) I conclude perhaps through some obscure Canadian law you have a claim as surely it would have been thrown out. More worryingly; this reeks of you knowing about this in advance purely to make a claim.
Either way, I’m rooting for BA to come down hard on you here and take you to the cleaners on this; a clear waste of the legal system, and, I also hope you have full costs awarded against you.
Either way, I’m rooting for BA to come down hard on you here and take you to the cleaners on this; a clear waste of the legal system, and, I also hope you have full costs awarded against you.
Agreed on the “booking in the full knowledge that this service wasn’t available to make a claim” also highly suspicious to redact the thread from 3 years ago. One suspects the OP is trying to hide the previously highlighted existence of this on the forum, should BA begin to look into this.
Jan 27, 2020, 3:58 pm
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That's not how airline contracts work. So what applies is the fare rules (in this case, the fare rules governing the award ticket). Some airlines will have additional conditions of carriage, like BA (General Conditions of Carriage) others will simply have the tariff, also known as the Contract of Carriage. The tariff is the "supreme" document that governs your travel - all rights and obligations stem from it. Other documents, such as the fare rules, will govern the nitpicky details of your travel.
Jan 27, 2020, 3:58 pm
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