BA and Qatar joint venture application to Australia
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Also, no messing about with the security check at the gate.
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Not in my experience. In the 4 times I've passed through, there has not been any security for transit passengers (I know this depends on which flight), so I've been in the lounge less than 10 minutes after leaving the plane.
Also, no messing about with the security check at the gate.
Also, no messing about with the security check at the gate.
DOH is an ok airport to transit, but I much prefer SIN, the former gives an initial good impression, but after a long layover or indeed multiple trips, you starts to feel rather ‘fake’ in my opinion, whereas I’ve generally had a very welcoming experience in SIN although my only complaint is the ugly carpet in the terminal (I concede this is a very minor point).
Meanwhile moving back on topic, this would seams commercially beneficial for both airlines and I disagree with the early threads that two airlines working together reduces completion; it can in fact increase competition if the combined effect causes an effect on the other major players. To suggest otherwise would appear to me to be rather naive.
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Not all airports require you to remove liquids. Recently at DXB, all that needed to be taken out was laptops.
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yes totally correct- all QR long haul fleet, including some A320 are fully horizontally flat.
The last sloppy went when the A330 were refurbished. (The A340-600 that went to Manila have long gone.)
At worst, on the few A330 that still run you get a flat seat similar to the AA or UA Atlantic 757 seat. Which is fine
The 350, 380 and 787 either have a 1-2-1 herringbone on Q suite. The 777LR is q suite. The 77W is either q suite or a 2-2-2 - but flat and roomy.
The last sloppy went when the A330 were refurbished. (The A340-600 that went to Manila have long gone.)
At worst, on the few A330 that still run you get a flat seat similar to the AA or UA Atlantic 757 seat. Which is fine
The 350, 380 and 787 either have a 1-2-1 herringbone on Q suite. The 777LR is q suite. The 77W is either q suite or a 2-2-2 - but flat and roomy.
As far as crew are concerned they are variable, just the same as BA. From ICN to DOH i found the crew exceptional. They noted I was ill and offered to help with any medication I might need. And kept checking on me. I ate nothing and drank no alcohol, but they kept me going with plenty of hot water.I haven't been to China, lol turns out it's a chest infection with a cold on top...
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The theory is good. The reality was that my laptop bag went down the inspection channel and was sat behind a dozen others. So my normal fast track 2 minutes became 14.....
OT, I know.
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The agreement would encompass all of Qatar's Australian destinations
except for Sydney, which the proposal notes is already served by both BA and Qatar Airways, with the Sydney-London route "highly contested... any attempt by the Parties to co-ordinate on the routes would be quickly defeated by the other airlines who offer services on the route…
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I don’t understand why including SYD would be seen as a less chance of approval. Of all the routes they are applying for, SYD is the one that already has the most alternatives for getting to Europe. Whereas the other cities have fewer options. So wouldn’t it be less likely that the other cities would be approved vs SYD?
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I don’t understand why including SYD would be seen as a less chance of approval. Of all the routes they are applying for, SYD is the one that already has the most alternatives for getting to Europe. Whereas the other cities have fewer options. So wouldn’t it be less likely that the other cities would be approved vs SYD?
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Depending on the time, the transit security check area is a disorganised sh*t show of the highest order. Probably a lot better with reduced traffic since the disagreement with the other GCC nations.
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I doubt either airline is worrying too much about a constituency largely based on flying Qatar on ultra cheap ex-Helsinki deals to harvest TPs.
Qatar might look cheap through our eyes, but in each local market it is often one of a number. SQ is currently the cheapest J class offer to Aus from most Scandi gateways right now, and they are hardly perceived as a 'Base Airline'. The fact is it is a very competitive market, and BA does very well in it despite some of the perceptions here about the offer.
This is about leveraging each airline's strengths to provide greater awareness of the choices available to each other's customer base. From BA's perspective it would be quite an investment to restart Melbourne, despite its SYD success and improving viability of new AUS routes with an A350. I image this new arrangement should kill off speculation for a while (Which is probably helpful for Qatar).
Talking of cheapness - one of the issues if you want to fly on BA codes to AUS is the availability of I class, particularly on QF, on the codeshares from SE Asia, so if this improves things we should all be grateful (Particularly with the Avios uplift you get from flying on a BA code)
Qatar might look cheap through our eyes, but in each local market it is often one of a number. SQ is currently the cheapest J class offer to Aus from most Scandi gateways right now, and they are hardly perceived as a 'Base Airline'. The fact is it is a very competitive market, and BA does very well in it despite some of the perceptions here about the offer.
This is about leveraging each airline's strengths to provide greater awareness of the choices available to each other's customer base. From BA's perspective it would be quite an investment to restart Melbourne, despite its SYD success and improving viability of new AUS routes with an A350. I image this new arrangement should kill off speculation for a while (Which is probably helpful for Qatar).
Talking of cheapness - one of the issues if you want to fly on BA codes to AUS is the availability of I class, particularly on QF, on the codeshares from SE Asia, so if this improves things we should all be grateful (Particularly with the Avios uplift you get from flying on a BA code)