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*Coronavirus : BA Suspends all flts to mainland China* +discussion on long haul flts

Old Jan 26, 20, 6:00 am
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BA have cancelled all flights to PKX (Beijing/Peking) and PVG (Shanghai Pu Dong) "until 19 April 2020".

BA frequency to HKG has been reduced with effect from 13 February 2020 - see below for further details. From HKG, Cathay is running a heavily reduced schedule to mainland destinations until the end of March.

If you are due to fly to PKX, PVG and your flight is cancelled then you have refund, re-route and rebook options. BA can rebook on to several other airlines.
If you are due to fly to Hong Kong until 1st April you have refund and rebook options.
If you are transiting into mainland China you are also covered as above.
If you are transiting internationally (e.g. LHR-HKG-SYD) you are not able to move your flights, unless they are cancelled anyway.
The latest ba.com update was on 21 February 2020 at 1510.

More information on the advice of Her Majesty's Government about travel and health is on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office website.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china

For the Special Administration Regions of Hong Kong and Macao:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/macao

Summary from IATA of all travel restrictions due to Coronavirus as added to TIMATIC https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm


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HKG frequency reductions (as of 1330 on 21 February 2020, all dates inclusive).

LHR-HKG

From Thu 13.02.2020 to Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (380).

Exceptions:-
  • Tue 18.02.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
  • Tue 10.03.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
  • Mon 27.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 28.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Wed 29.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Thu 30.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 11.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 12.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 18.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 19.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Sun 24.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 25.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Tue 26.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
  • Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).
In addition, on Mon 08.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).

HKG-LHR

From Fri 14.02.2020 to Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (380).

Exceptions:-
  • Wed 19.02.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
  • Wed 11.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
  • Sun 29.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 28.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 29.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Thu 30.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Fri 01.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 12.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 13.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 19.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 20.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Mon 25.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 26.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Wed 27.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
  • Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).
In addition, on Tue 09.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).

Note: Schedule changes take effect on Sun 29.03.2020 in both directions.

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*Coronavirus : BA Suspends all flts to mainland China* +discussion on long haul flts

Old Feb 22, 20, 4:50 am
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Hello

my flights in July has been cancelled to Beijing and moved to a different flight 20 mins later. It says if I am not happy I can get a refund. My booking was through a TA so would they be able to process this or do I need to contact BA?

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Old Feb 22, 20, 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by percysmith
HKG, with its low usage these days? No sweat. You can even twist an ankle along the way.
You think? I've transferred airside before easily, but never had to go land-side and then back in.
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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by chrisnasah
my flights in July has been cancelled to Beijing and moved to a different flight 20 mins later. It says if I am not happy I can get a refund. My booking was through a TA so would they be able to process this or do I need to contact BA?
Via the TA. Depending on the TA they may well be on top of this, or alternatively won't have a clue about it, and some shades of grey in between. Either way you need to enter into a discussion with the TA, not BA.
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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by Lewis King
You think? I've transferred airside before easily, but never had to go land-side and then back in.
Tell a lie... Scoot seem to have cancelled the flight on the 3rd completely. Looks like my only option is flight with Singapore.
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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:30 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
Via the TA. Depending on the TA they may well be on top of this, or alternatively won't have a clue about it, and some shades of grey in between. Either way you need to enter into a discussion with the TA, not BA.
TA telling me i have been moved to a different flight so cant get a refund, although online BA account tells me i can cancel for a full refund. TA says they will contact BA to take their view but they still insisted no refund.

Just called BA and the agent tells me no you cant get refund as its just a 20 min schedule change which is now 5 mins. But online portal says i can get a refund.

Did others manage to get a refund for their schedule changes?

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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:37 am
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Originally Posted by chrisnasah
TA telling me i have been moved to a different flight so cant get a refund, although online BA account tells me i can cancel for a full refund. TA says they will contact BA to take their view but they still insisted no refund.
the TA should refer to the guidelines that BA put on their travel trade site. You havent accepted the change and you are allowed to ask for a refund.
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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
the TA should refer to the guidelines that BA put on their travel trade site. You haven’t accepted the change and you are allowed to ask for a refund.
Anyone from BA here can check what it says on the trade site for my booking as i don't trust the agent. Just wondering whether this would have been updated on the trade site as yet? Under my manage booking on BA site it give me options and one of them is getting a full refund.
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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:45 am
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A cancelled flight always leads to the Standard Customer Guidelines, which in turn gives a refund option to the customer. This has been the case for the last 45 years to my certain knowledge.

Can you name the TA?
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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by chrisnasah
Anyone from BA here can check what it says on the trade site for my booking as i don't trust the agent. Just wondering whether this would have been updated on the trade site as yet? Under my manage booking on BA site it give me options and one of them is getting a full refund.
i am not sure what you mean? Its on the travel trade site now

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...kba?faqid=5670
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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:53 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
A cancelled flight always leads to the Standard Customer Guidelines, which in turn gives a refund option to the customer. This has been the case for the last 45 years to my certain knowledge.

Can you name the TA?
Carlton Leisure are the TA
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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:54 am
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So much fun with all of this haha...

1st. Scoot move my HK>Singapore flight to 19:15pm - I think "okay that's not bad, just a few extra hours in the airport..."
2nd. BA cancel my London>HK flight and bump me to the later one, meaning I can't really make the Scoot flight without a running hard...
3rd. I book the last Cathay flight at 20:00 so I can get to Singapore the same day...
4th. Cathay flight cancelled and moved to 4pm... so can't make it that, BA flight gets in too late... so cancel and revert to running through the airport for original Scoot flight
5th. Scoot now have cancelled my flight completely and moved it to the 2nd without telling me. The only way I've found out is trying to manage my booking.

Only option I have now is arrive at 16:55 on BA flight, spend the night at Novotel, and then try for the 9AM Cathay flight to Singapore... (if that doesn't get cancelled too...)
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Old Feb 22, 20, 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
i am not sure what you mean? Its on the travel trade site now

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...kba?faqid=5670
Well this cancellation is up to April, my flights are in July but they have cancelled and moved me to a different flight. As mentioned earlier one of the options it mentions is to get a full refund.
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Old Feb 22, 20, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by chrisnasah
Well this cancellation is up to April, my flights are in July but they have cancelled and moved me to a different flight. As mentioned earlier one of the options it mentions is to get a full refund.
the standard guidelines for cancellation allow for refunds too

https://www.britishairways.com/en-gb...#cancellations
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Old Feb 22, 20, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by chrisnasah
Carlton Leisure are the TA
Generally considered a good operator, at least compared to some TAs, but this is a good illustration why booking direct with BA can often be best. At this point you can insist on the refund (assuming you really do have a cancelled flight), or any refund they offer, and sue them (or work with your credit card issuer) for whatever they don't repay. EC261 eventually applies here, and the contracting party is BA rather than Carlton, so ultimately you are covered if there is a cancellation.
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Old Feb 22, 20, 6:07 am
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
Generally considered a good operator, at least compared to some TAs, but this is a good illustration why booking direct with BA can often be best. At this point you can insist on the refund (assuming you really do have a cancelled flight), or any refund they offer, and sue them (or work with your credit card issuer) for whatever they don't repay. EC261 eventually applies here, and the contracting party is BA rather than Carlton, so ultimately you are covered if there is a cancellation.
Would my flight be classed as cancelled if they offered me an alternative flight which is now scheduled 5 mins after? I will wait to see what the TA come back with as they mentioned they will call BA to confirm.
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