Old Jan 17, 20, 2:37 pm
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LGW Fleet Guide

This guide aims to help you establish what aircraft you will be flying on London Gatwick. It will include current LGW based frames, current seat maps and other information.

It will also be the central hub for asking LGW aircraft questions including seat maps and configurations.

Short Haul

A320CEO Fleet
Active (10) :
G-GATH / G-GATJ / G-GATK / G-GATL / G-GATM / G-GATN / G-GATP / G-GATR / G-GATS / G-GATU

MMB code 20E (A320 ceo)
This is the Gatwick based variant. All rows are fitted with B/E Aerospace slimline leather upholstered seats with 4-way adjustable headrests and eye level magazine storage. Cabins are also fitted with LED lighting. Maximum seating capacity is 177M.
Note this cabin layout only refers to aircraft with registrations starting with G-GAT




Notes:
  • Seat pitch is approx 30 in standard rows. Pitch is the same in business class ("Club Europe") as it is in economy ("Euro Traveller")
  • In business class ("Club Europe"), the unsold middle seat is converted into a shared space by way of a centre console. Business class cabin sizes do vary depending on individual flight loads. While the cabin size is usually determined approx 72 hours ahead of departure, the seat map is still subject to further minor adjustments up to approx 24 hours before departure although rarely contracting or expanding by more than one row during this period.
  • Row 1, Row 2 starboard (DEF) and exit rows 12 and 13 offer greater leg room. Note however, the seats in row 12 (and also 11) do not recline
  • Due to the absence of a bulkhead in front of the seats at row 1, there isn't the usual privacy buffer

A321CEO Fleet
Active (7): G-EUXC / G-EUXD / G-EUXE / G-EUXF / G-EUXK / G-EUXL / G-EUXM



Notes:
  • Seat pitch is approx 30 in standard rows. Pitch is the same in business class ("Club Europe") as it is in economy ("Euro Traveller")
  • In business class ("Club Europe"), the unsold middle seat is converted into a shared space by way of a centre console. Business class cabin sizes do vary depending on individual flight loads. While the cabin size is usually determined approx 72 hours ahead of departure, the seat map is still subject to further minor adjustments up to approx 24 hours before departure although rarely contracting or expanding by more than one row during this period. The maximum capacity in business class is 54C (rows 1 to 14)
  • Row 1 and exit rows 10 and 23 offer greater leg room. Seats 24A and 24F also have more legroom but at the cost of no window views
  • Seats fitted on BA short haul A321s do not have power sockets (subject to verification)

Long Haul

B777-200ER Fleet
Active (12) : G-VIIO / G-VIIP / G-VIIR / G-VIIT / G-VIIU / G-VIIX / G-YMMA / G-YMMB / G-YMMC / G-YMMD / G-YMME / G-YMMF

Type 77S 777-200ER
Refurbished three class: 32J 48W 252M
G-YMMA G-YMMB G-YMMC G-YMMD G-YMME G-YMMF (6)
2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE




Type 77T 777-200ER
Refurbished three class: 32J 52W 252M
G-VIIO G-VIIP G-VIIR G-VIIT G-VIIU G-VIIX (6)
2006 CW, 2018 WT+/WT (10 abreast) and Panasonic ex3 IFE




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LGW Fleet Guide

Old Jan 17, 20, 2:30 pm
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LGW Fleet Guide

Given the continuous Fleet changes at Gatwick (Reducation in G-DBC frames and Refresh of Long Haul fleet), I thought it would be useful to create a Wiki which outlines the fleet.

My aim is to include the different configurations for each aircraft, so that it is easy to distinguish what aircraft you will be travelling on, but also include a list of the current frames based at LGW.

It should then make it clearer for flyers to see what Seating/IFE will be on their flight and hopefully allow them to make the best seating decisions.

If anyone is opposed to this, has any suggestions or wishes to edit anything then please feel free to change it.
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Old Jan 17, 20, 6:02 pm
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Thanks for the 777 configuration info guys! I’ve just updated that in the wiki.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 12:34 pm
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777 info all completed now.

If anyone thinks anything else would be useful to add then let me know.
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Originally Posted by BAeuro
.....If anyone thinks anything else would be useful to add then let me know.
Likely retirement dates of the B772ERs please.
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Thx BAeuro, a useful and concise guide.
I know the 32J/52W variant finds WT+ with a toilet; whereas the 32J/48W variant has no WT+ toilet.
Good to see all WT+ seats are consistent, 2018, across the LGW long-haul fleet.

Would be good, over time, to get seat specific seat widths for these planes; particularly in WT and WT+.

For example, on American's 777-200s (also 10 across in Y, ). Main Cabin extra front row has 17.0 inch seat width, inner of armrest to inner of armrest. Their WT+ seat is 18.5 inch width, inner of armrest to inner of armrest. Also, the AA 777-200 is the only example I have to date of the AA premium economy cabin not having a dedicated toilet.
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Originally Posted by richardwft
Likely retirement dates of the B772ERs please.
Thanks for your suggestion.

Unfortunately I dont work for BA so I dont have access to specific retirement schedules. I do believe, however, that the 777-200s dont have specific retirement dates at the moment.
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Old Jan 18, 20, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by littlefish
Thx BAeuro, a useful and concise guide.
I know the 32J/52W variant finds WT+ with a toilet; whereas the 32J/48W variant has no WT+ toilet.
Good to see all WT+ seats are consistent, 2018, across the LGW long-haul fleet.

Would be good, over time, to get seat specific seat widths for these planes; particularly in WT and WT+.

For example, on American's 777-200s (also 10 across in Y, ). Main Cabin extra front row has 17.0 inch seat width, inner of armrest to inner of armrest. Their WT+ seat is 18.5 inch width, inner of armrest to inner of armrest. Also, the AA 777-200 is the only example I have to date of the AA premium economy cabin not having a dedicated toilet.
Thats okay-I just thought it would be good to have a thread which documented the different LGW configurations and the specific frames that are based down there.

I didnt realise about the toilets in WT+ so thanks for letting me know.
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Originally Posted by richardwft
Likely retirement dates of the B772ERs please.
Delivery date + 30 years is as close as you are going to get at the moment.
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There are actually 14 based 777 at Gatwick. At the moment one has been 'lent' to Heathrow' but will be back full time from March.
There can also be LHR/LGW swaps from time to time.

The A320/A319 fleet at Gatwick can also be fairly fluid during the summer months. I believe the Summer 2020 timetable will require 30 to 32 aircraft most days of the week peak season.

A very interesting thread though. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by vectismanpaul
There are actually 14 based 777 at Gatwick. At the moment one has been 'lent' to Heathrow' but will be back full time from March.
There can also be LHR/LGW swaps from time to time.

The A320/A319 fleet at Gatwick can also be fairly fluid during the summer months. I believe the Summer 2020 timetable will require 30 to 32 aircraft most days of the week peak season.

A very interesting thread though. Thank you.
Yes youre right, G-VIIT is also a LGW frame but at LHR for the moment.

I will be trying to update this thread when frames switch base so people will have an accurate idea of what aircraft are down there.

Hopefully over the coming months and years this thread can become the base for asking LGW fleet/seating questions and discussing future fleet plans at Gatwick.

Also, thanks for saying thank you everyone haha.
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Originally Posted by TedToToe
Delivery date + 30 years is as close as you are going to get at the moment.
Thats ok as a starting point.
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Quick thought, most of the LGW based 777 were delivered in 1999/2000 as far as I can tell so have probably got another 10 years in them. Whereas some of the LHR based ones may only have mother 6 or so years.

It seems odd that the ones being retired first are getting the Club Suite, because my assumption had always been that LGW would get the CS when it starts getting LHR's hand me downs (in say 6 years time - which is about when the LHR roll out concludes). But are we more likely to see the CS being refitted into LGW's 777s at that point?

I know it would only be speculation at this point, but I can't imagine BA will want to be throwing out the CS seats while still flying around the previous generation of seat and keep the inconsistency.
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...But are we more likely to see the CS being refitted into LGW's 777s at that point?.....
Can the LGW LH route markets pay the higher prices for CS at that point?
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Originally Posted by sbonathan
I know it would only be speculation at this point, but I can't imagine BA will want to be throwing out the CS seats while still flying around the previous generation of seat and keep the inconsistency.
Seats and other useable onboard kit is taken off retiring aircraft and fitted to other aircraft.

There are lots of factors in deciding what to retire when, but Im led to believe that takeoff and landing cycles is in some ways more important than age per se (and age doesnt always correlate with total hours either).
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