WTP-Avios upgrade v AUP/POUG gamble
Dec 26, 2019, 11:35 am
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The only other thing to mention is that waiting means you also risk loosing the CW award space and not being able to actually upgrade! If you see the space and are sure you're not going to want to make any changes then I 'd recommend locking in the UUA as soon as possible (I've been also been stung before on this one!).
Fingers crossed.
Dec 26, 2019, 11:50 am
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Dec 28, 2019, 8:58 am
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An update! POUG for both legs LHR-JFK have just popped up £472 each way - there is limited recent detail in the POUG wiki on this route but I’m guessing this is a decent price and unlikely to go down and I should get on an pay for it?!
Dec 28, 2019, 9:22 am
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Is it a decent price for you though? If it is, then go for it.
Dec 28, 2019, 1:11 pm
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Assuming this is WTP to CW then yes this is a good though not outstanding deal. So £944 versus the UuA of £200 + 48k Avios. That is £680 for the UuA on a frequently used formula, but you would get 100 addiitional TPs and 3.4 k Avios via a POUG. UuA is still good value against that, but if you need the TPs, it's difficult to get them for under £2 each.
Dec 28, 2019, 3:41 pm
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Thanks both, after some BA IT shenanigans and a call to the gold line it’s all upgraded successfully and they are TCPing the bookings also. Quite a relief. An exciting time as I try the club suite tomorrow. I’ll report back on as a 6 foot 4 guy as regard to leg space! Let the adventures begin! X
Dec 30, 2019, 12:00 pm
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Yes - the BA surcharges vary based on departure and destination. OSL/ARN/DUB all offer great WTP fares and little to no changes in surcharges to UUA from WTP to CW or CW to F. Departing from LHR and UUA from WTP to CW for the same transatlantic segment would cost £200 in surcharges vs. €0 from DUB. So aside from the (usually) cheaper fare you also save the extra “taxes” if you’re planning on UUA.
Indeed and just to illustrate this, the carrier surcharges (YQ) for OSL - PHL - OSL are as follows: (all the following in GBP):
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and for LHR-PHL-LHR (due to the current sale I think they've dipped the YQ for WT slightly).
WT = £90
WTP = £200
CW = £400
First = £400
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and for LHR-PHL-LHR (due to the current sale I think they've dipped the YQ for WT slightly).
WT = £90
WTP = £200
CW = £400
First = £400
Thank you!
Dec 30, 2019, 12:05 pm
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Are you booked DUB-LHR-US-LHR, or DUB-LHR-US-LHR-DUB and planning on dropping the last LHR-DUB? Are you going to be upgrading both LHR-US and US-LHR or just one of the two?
Dec 30, 2019, 12:11 pm
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You can check this fairly easily on ITA Matrix, but it's £386 in CW on that set of flights, versus £178 return if DUB was both the start and end point and £400 for a LHR start and end. So it's kind of a hybrid.
Dec 30, 2019, 12:16 pm
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Thanks both for the very speedy replies! Was going to book DUB-LHR-XXX-LHR (without a final leg to DUB as I didn't want to skip it) and upgrade all of the legs (to CE and CW). Given I will be time rich on this trip 
I'll just book a DUB-LHR-XXX return instead for the lower YQ as the hybrid isn't very different to the LHR YQ.
I'll just book a DUB-LHR-XXX return instead for the lower YQ as the hybrid isn't very different to the LHR YQ.
