BA371 MRS-LHR. Long delay [3 Nov 2019]

Old Nov 3, 19, 3:08 am
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BA371 MRS-LHR. Long delay [3 Nov 2019]

A friend just messaged me. The flight is running very late. It should have left at 7.00 local and it still seems to be on the ground. When would E261 kick in?

updated as departure is now scheduled for 11.32 4.5 hours.

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Old Nov 3, 19, 3:12 am
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Needs a three hour delay on doors open at LHR. Although for duty of care you could argue that this should be earlier.
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Old Nov 3, 19, 3:12 am
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According to Flightradar, last nights LHR-MRS diverted to MPL so could crew be out of hours or similar?
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Old Nov 3, 19, 3:15 am
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly View Post
According to Flightradar, last nights LHR-MRS diverted to MPL so could crew be out of hours or similar?
As night stop the morning return will have a different crew so you would need to look at other arrivals to see if they were on time.
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Just checked and there were a number of diverted flights yesterday into MRS. I therefore expect that EC261 will be declined based on circumstances beyond the airlines control.
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Originally Posted by madfish View Post
Just checked and there were a number of diverted flights yesterday into MRS. I therefore expect that EC261 will be declined based on circumstances beyond the airlines control.
Do you mean that the flights diverted from MRS or was MRS full of flights diverted from elsewhere?
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Old Nov 3, 19, 3:21 am
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Originally Posted by madfish View Post
As night stop the morning return will have a different crew so you would need to look at other arrivals to see if they were on time.
If the aircraft is in Montpellier that's not really the issue.
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Diverted from MRS. There were a few that did land, but circumstances aren't clear about why overall.
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE View Post
Do you mean that the flights diverted from MRS or was MRS full of flights diverted from elsewhere?
I suspect flights diverted away from MRS. weather was apparently horrid last night over south eastern France with lots of flooding.This will also mean no delay compensation for your friend.
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Old Nov 3, 19, 3:24 am
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Originally Posted by Jumbodriver View Post
If the aircraft is in Montpellier that's not really the issue.
What I meant was that in ordinary circumstances the morning flight would be operated by a different crew so hours would not be an issue - assuming this crew had had minimum rest. The fact the aircraft is in MPL is now the problem rather than crew at MRS.
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There clearly seems to be some issue in/around MRS last night



Looking at the weather there did seem to be a thurderstorm around that time.
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Old Nov 3, 19, 3:37 am
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G-TTOB is on approach to MRS from MPL now
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Old Nov 3, 19, 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic View Post
I suspect flights diverted away from MRS. weather was apparently horrid last night over south eastern France with lots of flooding.This will also mean no delay compensation for your friend.
I disagree as that was 12 hours ago and since then they could have repositioned the aircraft in a more timely manner
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77 View Post
I disagree as that was 12 hours ago and since then they could have repositioned the aircraft in a more timely manner
I suspect last nights crew might have timed out or there could be curfews, pretty sure if BA could have got the aircraft their quicker they would as a lengthy delay is going to cause knock on problems. Iím sure operations doesnít just say ah yeah well delay that flight 4 hours to get everybody cross.
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Old Nov 3, 19, 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77 View Post
I disagree as that was 12 hours ago and since then they could have repositioned the aircraft in a more timely manner
If the crew that diverted last night were used to reposition it, then they would need to have minimum rest before they could report to reposition the aircraft.

If the crew who were due to operate MRS-LHR were used to reposition it, they would have been resting / asleep when the aircraft diverted and it may have been on report at MRS before they were told they needed to get ground transportation to MPL to reposition the aircraft.

Given these variables, 12 hours isn't too bad. At least they repositioned the aircraft. I have seen instances of flights diverting where the aircraft is then positioned back to LHR empty.
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