Where to see "filed" fares display?
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Where to see "filed" fares display?
I'm looking for a site where I can see the fares BA have filed across The Atlantic in August 2020! BA's website only seems to be offering B Class fares currently, which are clearly far from the lowest fares the airline will sell. The itinerary I'm trying to get a price for is XXX BA X/LON BA MCO BA X/LON BA XXX. Any creative suggestions for point of embarkation (in Europe) plus a source for a fares display would be gratefully received........
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Indeed EF, or you can use ITA Matrix and go through the fare rules one by one.
This are is 100% detail/specifics driven, but to give a very generic answer: if you see only B bucket led fares it may well be due to fare combinability rules. B is the lowest BA bucket - but an expensive one - where there is a high level of combinability with other fares. So when I spent a few minutes looking at that GIB-BKK fare, the BA fare that came up was in B even though the flights in question had availability down to N bucket.
This are is 100% detail/specifics driven, but to give a very generic answer: if you see only B bucket led fares it may well be due to fare combinability rules. B is the lowest BA bucket - but an expensive one - where there is a high level of combinability with other fares. So when I spent a few minutes looking at that GIB-BKK fare, the BA fare that came up was in B even though the flights in question had availability down to N bucket.
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ITA Matrix and deselect "Only show flights and prices with available seats."
This gives you an O fare of £611 for LGW-MCO, whereas the lowest available on the dates I looked (12-19 August) is M out, V back, at £1,156.
This gives you an O fare of £611 for LGW-MCO, whereas the lowest available on the dates I looked (12-19 August) is M out, V back, at £1,156.
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Thanks all! The BA fare ex Oslo is interesting : OSL BA X/LON BA ORL Q13.76 M 35.50SLW4C8B4 BA X/LON BA OSL Q13.76 M 21.65SLX4C8B4 NUC 84.67 END ROE 9.026063 XT 200G2 108ZN 418UB 54YC 64XY 36XA 342US 51AY 1794YQ 41XF MCO4.50 Total including Taxes, Fees & Charges = NOK3872 eqv GBP330. The fare is conditional on "S" class availability which BA have yet to release. Can anybody advise of a decent BA specialist in Norway or is it best just to keep an eye on BA's website?
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But if the OP really wants a display of the fares that have been filed, then AFAIK ExpertFlyer is the only readily-accessible source that will provide it. Even using ITA, restricting the results to a specific booking class, and going up the ladder class-by-class will only show you the cheapest theoretical fare in each booking class for the date(s) searched for, rather than the whole list of filed fares.
The OP's actual plan (EU-LON-MCO-LON-EU) involves a bog-standard ex-EU pricing query, to which the usual bog-standard answers are available.
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Filed fares (or published fares) aren't always helpful as they contain many rules that are difficult to manually parse. Aside from min and max stay, adv purchase, combinability, Blackout dates, there are sometimes restrictions to specific flight numbers etc
You ultimately need to find a combination of availability AND appropriate published fare and the easiest way to do this is to search ITA or Google Flights for a variety of dates and suitable cities
You ultimately need to find a combination of availability AND appropriate published fare and the easiest way to do this is to search ITA or Google Flights for a variety of dates and suitable cities