Extinction Rebellion at LCY
#47
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As others have said, whilst their protest may, to a certain degree, have some merit, they are going about it completely the wrong way.
#49
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Well according to DM he was banned from athletics because of doping violation. Also he was arrested in relation for the drone attack in LHR. So I doubt he wants to fly to Tokyo next year. But I agree he should be jailed banned from all airlines and should cover the cost of the damage he causing.
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#51
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I think that the protestors' persistence, if they have enough, will ultimately ensure their success. If they're targeting three days of shutdown, I'm confident that after 2˝ days they will have ground down the airport's, BA's and other airlines' resistance, and secured their desired shutdown for the remainder of the planned period.
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Blocking cycle lanes is a bit of an own goal, but disrupting air transport seems fairly reasonble for a group protesting against climate change.
I'm sure I'd be annoyed if they messed with my flight... but that's sort of the point of a protest, isn't it? Annoying people until they take an issue seriously is effective as demonstrated by the suffragettes - not much happened until they started employing arson and property damage as a tactic in 1908-1911.
I'm sure I'd be annoyed if they messed with my flight... but that's sort of the point of a protest, isn't it? Annoying people until they take an issue seriously is effective as demonstrated by the suffragettes - not much happened until they started employing arson and property damage as a tactic in 1908-1911.
The vote for women came about in 1918 and amended to the same rights as men in 1928.
From a historical context, (or the view on this subject I learned when studying this at school) was that this had more to do with the part women played in the war effort than the more radical elements of the suffragette movement.
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All of you saying how disruption meant more flights for yourselves or refueling and therefore more emissions are clearly missing the point of all of this #justsaying
#54
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I was supposed to be flying to Amsterdam today out of LCY to catch an ex-EU to South Africa tomorrow. Thanks to their stunts, I've deferred the flight to next month and booked an avios flight out of LHR so they're directly responsible for me taking more, not less flights.
I do agree with a lot of what they say but they're going about it a bad way. It seems to be a rather polarising, passive aggressive finger pointing exercise that's not trying to get people on side but to valid their own positions and echo chambers. Most of the protesters aren't even from London (as far as the interviews given appear) but seem to be having a holiday coming down to my city to **** things up for me. I should camp outside their 3 bed semi in Hertfordshire later in the year and stop them getting home but tell them it's for their own good...
I do agree with a lot of what they say but they're going about it a bad way. It seems to be a rather polarising, passive aggressive finger pointing exercise that's not trying to get people on side but to valid their own positions and echo chambers. Most of the protesters aren't even from London (as far as the interviews given appear) but seem to be having a holiday coming down to my city to **** things up for me. I should camp outside their 3 bed semi in Hertfordshire later in the year and stop them getting home but tell them it's for their own good...
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These stunts are so stupid. I do hope the one that was a "passenger" gets banned from flying on any airline. It will suit him as it appears he doesn't want to fly anyway.
I also am amazed that the Paralympic athlete got on top of that plane. He deserves to be banned from flying too. That will make his chances of getting to Tokyo very difficult. I also hope that these idiots are sent the bill for the cost of removing them from the aircraft plus any associated bills for causing flight delays.
I also am amazed that the Paralympic athlete got on top of that plane. He deserves to be banned from flying too. That will make his chances of getting to Tokyo very difficult. I also hope that these idiots are sent the bill for the cost of removing them from the aircraft plus any associated bills for causing flight delays.
BTW, I ate a grilled steak last night in honor of the protestors. It was good.
ADDED: What's the guy's disability and what's his sport? Is he well known in the UK for his athletic achievements or just for the doping and now this?
Last edited by MSPeconomist; Oct 10, 2019 at 9:44 am
#57
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The problem is that, by doing that, he might've damaged the aircraft.
I'm sympathetic to their cause, I too am worried about the environment so much so that I'm actively limiting my flights and offsetting the ones I do (plus I don't own a car and I live in a very energy efficient flat), but this is criminal. That bloke risked death, potentially damaged a plane and inconvienced a lot of people; the other fella who stood up at take off managed to waste a lot more fuel (had he been on a 747 at LHR it'd have been an extra ton of fuel for taxiing). I hope they do get banned.
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#59
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As I said, I'm sympathetic to his cause, and changes need to happen but... not like this. Also because, if there's something worth chaining yourself in front of, that might be the feeder conveyor for some coal-powered power station (if you want to get the biggest bang for your buck).